Today's email to commissioners (they did not answer yesterday's):
Dear Commissioners,
Public Health has said these harm-reduction programs are working. What local evidence are you relying on to say that—beyond counts of supplies handed out or services provided? Can you point residents to data that actually shows fewer overdoses, better recovery outcomes, or safer communities here in Clallam County?
All three Clallam County Commissioners can be reached by emailing the Clerk of the Board at loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov.
Maybe this would help the response WE are seeking?
BOCC/BOH Governance Response Template
Thanks for the questions. You’re right to ask for clarity on what “working” means and what local evidence supports that claim.
As County Commissioners, we also sit as the Clallam County Board of Health. That means we are accountable not only for funding and policy direction, but for ensuring the public can see how success is defined and measured—including both (1) public health outcomes and (2) community impacts residents experience daily.
Based on the concerns raised here, the Board of Health will take the following actions:
1) Adopt clear, written definitions of “success.”
Within the next Board of Health cycle, Public Health will present a short, public-facing “Success Definition” document that distinguishes:
Program outputs (services delivered, engagement, reversals), from
Public health outcomes (overdose deaths/nonfatal overdoses trends, treatment linkage, etc.), and
Community impacts (public-space safety indicators and related measures).
2) Require a regular “Outcomes vs. Outputs” dashboard.
We will request a standing quarterly report that clearly separates:
What the program did (outputs)
What changed in the community (outcomes/impact)
What cannot be concluded (limitations; no causal claims)
3) Require plain-language public communication standards.
When the County uses terms like “proven,” “working,” or “improving outcomes,” the accompanying communication must specify:
Which metric is being referenced
The timeframe
Whether it is local or state/national evidence
Any known limitations
4) Hold a public “Define Success” session at a Board of Health meeting.
We will dedicate a portion of an upcoming Board of Health agenda to public input on what community members mean by “success,” with the goal of aligning professional metrics with real-world experience (public spaces, visibility of drug use, and impacts on families).
5) Clarify what the Board can and cannot measure locally.
We will request that Public Health clearly state what data are currently available at the county level, what can be reasonably analyzed locally, and what would require additional resources or partnerships.
The goal is not to argue ideology. The goal is to be precise and transparent: define success, report results honestly, and let residents see how progress is being measured. That is how public trust is built.
Excellent article. Even with citations to quell the inevitable eye rolls from the medical and public health establishment.
Allison Berry proved herself to be one of the most inept public health officials in the country during COVID. Her direct ties to John’s Hopkins University tells you she has zero critical thinking skills and parrots the science coming out of the most dangerous institutions in the world.
I think it’s time for a new public health officer. One that can write and cite sources other than John’s Hopkins and the Gates Foundation. One that actually lives in Clallam county.
Not just Johns Hopkins University ties but ties to the Bloomberg School of Medicine at once proud Johns Hopkins in once proud Baltimore, home of H. L. Mencken and Fort McHenry.
I love euphemisms. The world would become a dull place without them. The deception was obvious and causes us to doubt the veracity of our political opponents. Have all of the copy editors vanished? My mother would call the description a "lie of omission". That individual with ties to MS 13 was a paterfamilias in the same respect that Rodney King was simply a "motorist" as described by the LA Times. LOL
John, I hear what you’re saying — once you’ve lived through loss and watched vulnerable people harmed under systems that claimed virtue, you can’t unsee it. Many people feel a fracture in trust, even if they describe it differently.
This article isn’t trying to relitigate everything that went wrong, but it is asking where we begin if we want something better. One area is governance: insisting that officials clearly define what “success” means, demonstrate the evidence they have locally, and be honest about their limitations. That’s a small but real way people can push back against unchecked authority without being overwhelmed.
Empowerment doesn’t come from fixing everything at once — it starts by refusing vague claims and demanding clarity in the spaces where decisions are actually made.
I am terrible. I don’t mind it if the monkeys keep shocking themselves. I just don’t want a bureaucracy to shock them for free. I think when a monkey wants to be a monkey you can’t stop them. Just say no doesn’t work. Zero tolerance taking cars with joints in the ashtray didn’t work. We just built a different section of the blue pages. I am not willing to let the state department have a monopoly on killing monkeys in the war machine
What was typical and offensive to readers was, looking at the dates of the studies being used as evidence. One was 25 years old, several were from 2013, etc. If you want to get REAL with the people, admit that low levels of data exists since Covid days, and no one really cares enough about drug addicts deaths to use
repeatable methods of measuring. Unless you have a grant tied to the outcome. True numbers may have a financial impact on all the “HARM REDUCTION” money being given out through supplies. Of course this is being too logical on my part to think there should be a valid connection.
My mistake, blah blah public health, blah blah positive results!
Dope per se IMO is not actually the problem. Neither Keith Richards nor Robert Downey ever committed a burglary. The problem is the crime associated with drug use. If we apply harsh punishment to crime the drug problem evaporates. I understand the argument against this idea, but I am not convinced. The Volstead Act merely strengthened the power of organized crime. Today our war on drugs is as effective as almost all of our past wars. The war has produced violent and powerful cartel members and converted parts of our cities into battle zones.
There aint no magic dust sprinkled in their faces by Nurse Ratchet making $250,000 a year. There aint no final bust by COPNET from the huge criminal justice pie chart....Just living wage jobs in the blue pages. I'd rather have Snake Pliskin and waste management charge them for being monkeys.
The rich kids don't have to burgle to live...there's one difference.
A sick culture that cannot help the disaffected and marginalized to do better partly because many of the very people staffing 'the system' are themselves unhealed and traumatized people...and there are not that many ways to 'make a living' with bottom-end jobs paying about 1/2 of what it takes to 'make it' in our society.
I don't have any answers except from the Spiritual Realm(s)...an empire in collapse (the entire Western world) is a sad recurring event throughout history.
As John W. says..."no magic dust" to fix it...just raw power struggles between the completely insane and the regular insane. (pretty much everyone is a little 'off-the-beam' in the Western world)
I'm an optimistic cynic...I think everything will turn out ok in the future...but it won't have anything to do with humanities capabilities! We're too dumbed down and we don't live long enough to accumulate enough collective wisdom and we have lost our collective Spiritual compass...if we ever had one.
John slightly off topic but I believe that The Executive Monkey Experiment was never replicated because other factors may have been involved in the maladies developed by Harlow's monkeys. I love non-human animals so I thought the experiments were wantonly cruel and without merit.
Until recently our country did not have the stomach to execute dope sellers. In theory though their immediate execution would solve the problem if there is one, but I agree with your assessment about the expansion of our bloated corrupt government. Often the ideal solution is the enemy of the best possible though not perfect solution. I think that we should allow these "astronauts" to modify the chemicals in their brains but when they commit crimes they are put inside prison. IMO Narcan is cheating one of the most important elements of Evolution which is "survival of the fittest".
The "monkey getting shocked by cocaine dispenser" part likely refers to infamous 1960s-1970s animal experiments (known as the Monkey Drug Trials), where rhesus monkeys were given levers to self-administer intravenous cocaine (and other drugs). The monkeys would press the lever obsessively, often to the point of convulsions, exhaustion, or death—essentially "shocking" themselves with massive doses because cocaine is highly reinforcing. Some related studies paired cocaine delivery with electric shocks to test if punishment would deter use, but monkeys still chose the drug in many cases.
Saving everyone, no matter how bad or evil, is the polar opposite of the Old Testament practice of total genocide of all people and domestic animals in order to 'cleanse' a region for the new occupiers.
Either extreme is as bad as the other.
No capital punishment ensures the worst of the worst remain to influence our culture and society.
Even if they are locked up the cost per inmate is staggering and highly profitable to the corporations overseeing the prisons and fiscally unsustainable along with many of the other 'social' gov't programs... We can't currently even pay the interest on the debt without borrowing more money.
How long does anyone think/feel/believe this can go on?🤓
What is your background understanding of the Remdesivir/Ventilator thing?
Is RFK Jr.'s book (The Real Anthony Fauci) accurate enough to outline the conspiracy? The Africa 'trials' with Remdesivir?
We, of course have to rely on 'other' 'experts' and their research teams for our information, as we are 'lay people' who do our research but still don't have first-hand knowledge.
I realize you may be limited in your ability to be candid about every aspect, but it would be nice to have some confirmation from local insiders.
Peter McCullough. Brian Ardis. Sherry TenPenny. Simone Gold. Ryan Cole. Luc Montagnier. Robert Malone. Kary Mullis. Michael Yeadon, and others.
I respected medical doctors before DEI programs infected universities. Perhaps inclusion and quotas have not caused any real harm but when Michael Jackson died, I said what everyone was thinking. Some people with heads wiser than mine might call medical doctors insurance company employees who obey their superiors. Former doctor Josiah Hill would not be included in that group. Dr. Dean Ornish's book "Eat More, Weigh Less" may be true in theory but defies my field observations. Double blind studies are important because one never witnesses an opposing outcome. Some might say that during the Covid era that Sweden was the other end of a double-blind experiment. Nobody was ever punished for the diabolical lab experiment.
I fall into the category of hearing oddities, and especially if out of my area of understanding, would use terms like "bullshit." Definitely not a masterful argument, but I know that I'm onto something.
On the other hand, when I listen to well educated and thoughtful people such as yourself who are able to assemble the layers in a way that is understandable, then the commoners get to put their bullshit meter to the test. I very much appreciate the visual chart you assembled backed up by the what you've described. It makes the information sing.
I recall listening to the meeting referenced in this article. I've referenced it a few times in other CCWD articles. The overwhelming tone was a bunch of back slapping conduct that I didn't appreciate, not to mention Dr. Berry's generalized, and unchallenged statements. The tone poked fun at those who are perceived as being underneath these people. All that I could think of was that this uber-intelligent committee had no fortitude to ask for specifics as they were too busy letting her wow them about being invited to a state level health meeting to share the self-described successes Clallam County is seeing. And our BOCCC attendees just sat there not asking the hard questions.
I'll put this next meeting on my schedule. Hopefully a few others do as well so that we know how our BOCCC is being influenced, especially on this important topic that is decroding this county.
On a side note. This goes to my larger concern for the other committees the county has in place as an advisory arm for the county to make decisions. Some of these committees tend to be weighted toward activists who somehow benefit from the decisions those committees make and refer to county decision makers. This all follows the unbalanced narratives that do not support the citizens of this county equally, and that I would like to see change. I'd also welcome that any of our BOCCC actually ask the hard questions, but that would have put their personal interests at risk.
MK, thank you for taking the time to listen to the meeting and to articulate what felt off to you. I think what you’re describing isn’t really about intelligence or credentials — it’s about governance posture.
When public officials or advisory bodies receive generalized claims of success without asking for definitions, metrics, or limitations, that’s not expertise being respected — that’s governance being deferred. And that’s where trust erodes.
The point of the article (and the chart) isn’t to accuse public health professionals of bad intent. It’s to show how easily people can talk past one another when “success” isn’t clearly defined. Public health staff often mean program activity and engagement; residents often mean what they see and experience in their communities. Both matter — but they are not interchangeable.
What should have happened in that October meeting — and what still can happen — is very simple and very professional:
“How are we defining success?”
“Which measures reflect program activity vs. community outcomes?”
“What local data do we have, and what can’t we conclude from it?”
“How will this be reported publicly going forward?”
Those aren’t hostile questions. They’re the basic responsibilities of a Board of Health.
I appreciate you putting the next meeting on your calendar. That’s exactly where this conversation belongs — not as a fight, but as a shared effort to define success clearly, measure it honestly, and communicate it plainly. That’s how expertise and community experience are supposed to work together.
And if there’s one takeaway I hope readers and officials alike hear:
Asking for specifics isn’t disrespect. It’s how public trust is built.
Their 'intent' is to follow their puppet masters from W.E.F. and U.N. Agenda 21+++ and other blatant conspiracy organizations for depopulation and total control...
they have no 'intent' to govern on behalf of regular people...they have a closed loop system, a true echo-chamber with no outside voices reaching their core belief systems...they will not change...although it is possible...
EVERYTHING about their world would be disrupted if they followed Truth, Justice, Liberty, Accountability and Tough Love.
Sociopaths gotta sociopath. We have no 're-education' programs for sociopaths. Get them gone...the outline Dr. Sarah gave for accountability is all we need...that and someone(s) who will hold to that format.
There Will be a LOT of pain when we cut programs back to realistic levels of service and accountable service but the longer term pain is total destruction of our society.🤓
I am a basic vulgarian, so my vernacular is intentionally filled with profanity. Certain words when used with a loud angry voice in public seem to possess a stronger idiomatic force that is lacking in a polite word.
They 'play' us by alternately ignoring and ridiculing us, so we should 'play' them between politeness and open vulgarity...it's a strange form of torment but it might work better...definitely would work better than 'being nice' and 'making requests'.😎
I am soooooo glad we have people like Dr. Sarah and a host of other contributors step forward with organized straight forward thoughts .So far beyond my shoot from the hip opinions.Thank you.
Thank you — I really appreciate that. My hope is simply to help slow the conversation down enough that we can move from frustration to clarity and ask better questions together.
Dr. Sarah, it's hard to slow the conversations down with so many people frustrated and angry. Your article obviously is not meant to incite people, but in your clarity people realize their anger is justified. Clarity does not stop next years taxes that have been increased for the many areas paid for in Harm Reduction. People are angry and don't know how to redirect it when it was obvious long ago.
You are the beginning of a journey that will take a long time to correct, which only voting will work. I thank you for being a leader in this.
Jennifer, you are the rational calm in a chaotic world. You write with wisdom as if we are young and need to take baby steps. We do need to take baby steps or we will all retreat and leave the Three Little Pigs to their own reality. But just like that you reel us back in and I thank you for that. This topic has so many off-shoots and many of us have had a personal experience. My adult niece OD at age 32 leaving behind a teenage son. I never knew she was an addict. My sister said she withheld that info so we wouldn’t think negative of her daughter. Oh yes, I’d much rather do a eulogy instead of an intervention! I believe there are far more functioning addicts (shoot up at work) than the ones we see on the streets. That being said, how do we ever get an accurate number of drug abusers?
If our law enforcement is too impotent to go after the dealers, well the population is screwed.
And higher costs for 'contracts' being applied for...another general taxation burden being fomented in our direction. Weekend 'rag' in the newsstand...don't recall which...brace for impact!😎
A great way to show the facts and they are fairly understandable. What kept going through my mind though, what did the County do before this Harm Reduction Center opened, say 2016 when I arrived? Scraped the OD'd kid off the sidewalk and took them to the ER. Or you spent 72 in the drunk tank for public intoxication, drugged and disorderly. Where did the County get this idea of providing harm incentive tools and services was healthy? California? Seattle? Portland?
This cannot be the quaint image your local Chamber of Commerce would like promoted; gateway to ONP, shopping, festivals, safe streets. Come do business here. Come open a new business. Raise your family here. Attend college locally. Live. Shop. Play. INSTEAD, what have we got in 2025?
Imagine, if you will, one day the people who operates the HRC didn't show up for work. "Sorry we're closed until further notice." Imagine, the supply chain became disrupted and those syringes and boofing kits you ordered were out of stock, at the bottom of the ocean. Imagine the producers of Naloxone just disappeared. Imagine, the Clallam County funding mechanism suddenly had no more money. Imagine.
Ken, that’s a fair question, and it’s the right place to focus.
Around 2015–2016, the rapid spread of illicit fentanyl changed overdose risk dramatically, and at the same time, public health guidance nationally shifted toward harm-reduction approaches aimed primarily at preventing death. Counties didn’t develop this in isolation; they adopted it through state and federal public health channels.
The issue this article raises isn’t whether something different was done before, or whether harm reduction exists elsewhere. It’s whether Clallam County has clearly defined what success looks like locally, how it is being measured, and how community impacts factor into those decisions.
Public health often evaluates success through engagement, services provided, and the number of overdose reversals. Many residents evaluate success based on their daily experiences — including public safety, visible drug use, and whether the community feels like a place to live, work, and raise a family. Those are different measures, and they shouldn’t be discussed as if they were the same.
That’s where governance comes in. The Board of Health’s role is to make those definitions explicit, be clear about what data shows locally (and what it doesn’t), and communicate honestly with the public about both public health outcomes and community impacts. That conversation hasn’t really happened in the open yet — and that gap is what this article aims to highlight.
In 2016, when my legitimate opiod prescription was canceled, no counseling, no tapering, no compassion...like thousands(millions?) around the country, many were lost to intentional overdose and suicide, way more than were dying incidentally, usually in their sleep on their CPAPS with morbid obesity, diabetes, COPD, Cancer, Heart Disease, etc.
AT THE SAME EXACT TIME...fentanyl and other more deadly drugs flooded the streets and started showing up in everything, including 'death bowls'...pipes filled with high-octane cannabis, crack cocaine, fentanyl and anything else they think about stuffing in them...yes, they call them 'death bowls' and do them anyway.
Do you think... maybe they WANT OUT!
The inhumane thing is to insist on keeping them here, in torment, in their personal hells...to keep cycling through the death spiral again and again..the loving thing would be to let them go...only a devil would want to increase and prolong the suffering of any being, human or not...do-gooding is sometimes BAD!🥸
In 2016-2018, PA Councilmember Amy Miller was a “community change agent” (instead of a social worker), hanging out with criminal druggies on the street and starting to cobble together a political coalition to support them and suck the county and city dry. Serenity House was essentially bankrupt and had to go begging to the county for funds. Then COVID came late in 2019 and money fell like rain.
Now you have come to my pet peace with our state and county. Harm reduction. None of them make sense and I have had 3 personal experiences on how drug relationships have affected my life. All successes happened due to accountability... Two jail sentences and one was just adhereing to the rules to stay on the property. After the jail sentences, one became a councilor, the other a teacher who I taught with and he was adamant about sharing his experiences to help the youth we were teaching trades to get into apprentice programs in the area. I call him a super hero to his face!
Empower vs. enabling it's easy to chose the proven method to success. Thanks Jeff for sharing the misguided Dr. Barry to all who have experience over a shrouded degree. She is a huge part of the problem!
Glen, thank you for sharing those experiences — they matter, and they’re powerful. What you’re describing highlights something that often gets lost in these debates: for many people, accountability, structure, and clear expectations are not punishment; they’re stabilizing forces that make recovery possible. Your examples show how lives can change when systems create real consequences and real pathways forward.
Where this connects to the article is in how success is being defined. Some people respond to harm reduction supports, others respond to accountability, and many need a combination that evolves over time. The governance question is whether local programs are designed to recognize those differences, measure long-term outcomes, and avoid confusing enablement with empowerment.
The goal isn’t to dismiss harm reduction outright or elevate one story over another, but to be honest about what’s working, for whom, and at what cost — and to adjust policy accordingly. Your comment underscores why that clarity is so important.
My prayers are answered eventually……usually! Mainly asking for truth to shine the light on evil.
Today I’m grateful for Dr. Sarah, her knowledge and her courage to reach out & explain more is needed to deal with Clallam County drug abused & Dr. Berry is fake, has failed in MANY ways to support that of which she advocates.
I thought by Dr. Berry moving on to her current position from treating patients at Jamestown would alleviate our problems as patients but she hasn’t changed….she is the same hasn’t changed…..her way or the highway, her fact gathering John Hopkins educated background discounting any other knowledge or facts and without having the same credentials or more than her then you KNOW NOTHING.
THANK YOU DR. SARAH for challenging Dr. Berry because it will certainly take someone like you to CRACK the BULLSHIT mountain Dr. Berry has been allowed to create. Dr. Berry has not been held accountable because her mouth out talks everyone while those she has messed up are busy trying to get their medical issues under control.
We will support Dr. Sarah to gather the real data, not the Berry lingo she spews for her continued job security & we hope others will do the same.
I want to pause here and acknowledge that what you’re describing sounds rooted in real pain and difficult experiences. When people feel harmed, unheard, or dismissed by systems meant to help them, that leaves lasting wounds — and it’s understandable to look for someone to blame or someone to fix it.
I also want to be clear about my role. I’m not a savior, and no single person is solely responsible for the outcomes we’re seeing. These are complex, system-level issues involving policy choices, oversight structures, incentives, and accountability — not just one individual.
What I’m trying to do is shift the conversation away from personal blame and toward something more durable: clear definitions of success, transparent data, honest acknowledgment of limits, and shared responsibility in governance. That’s the only way systems actually change, and it’s the only way people who’ve been hurt don’t get hurt again by false promises.
Your voice matters — and so does keeping this grounded in fairness, evidence, and collective accountability.
Dr. Sarah, I appreciate your reply. However I do hold Dr. Berry accountable, she is the speaker, she is the boss, she is the person who is steam rolling this County when it comes to our healthcare & she is the one pushing for control over future pandemics. That in itself should be addressed & abolished. Very much understand the NEED & shift to real data which obviously has and is VOID. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT it is all complex. We need the fact-finders! There are so many out of control issues rooted in nothing burgers it is overwhelming, but one thing at a time. I thank Jeff, Jake, Jen, yourself, Virginia & John for taking the extra steps, to continue to keep facts & truth out in the light, helping us all along this journey back close to center. A lot of commenters on here are trying hard to hold wrong doers accountable by speaking, writing, asking questions with no reply or consideration & acknowledgement of the data & facts.
Please show up to the last Charter Review Committee Meeting Monday night 5:30pm or speak up on Zoom during public comment because what should be a slam dunk regarding the breech of Client-Attorney privilege by Stoffer is being allowed by Chair, Fisch, Pickett & others who are protecting their democrat friend regardless of the seriousness of the offense. This committee could have accomplished so many needed issues but instead undermined the process with their political attacks.
Block Scary-Berry, the wicked witch fairy, whose credentials are fake (non-scientific mind-controlled roboid) and especially hairy!
If you value your life...don't believe anything she says, unless you can prove it yourself!
Some of us KNOW who and what you ARE...you attracted angry people to your (incorrect) residence with your last showing...are you going to do it again?😎
Because it’s not designed to actually help anyone. The design focuses on using government dollars to hire friendly SJWs and push money to local NGOs. The numbers are used as a rationale, just enough to get past most voters. Meanwhile, we keep hearing the early morning PAFD sirens as they go off to help the local gentry who just won’t wake up and need the magic whiff of Narcan.
I was just speaking to a friend who is now coming up on 2 months clean. He had a little over 3 years clean originally, with the assistance of suboxone.
He went back out recently and was brought back with Narcan twice. Those 2 incidents were never reported to first responders.
He says many people are overdosing daily and being brought back with narcan and not reporting it.
If drug dealers started getting charged with murder, I think maybe we could start a process of cleaning up the drugs distributed in the area.
I'm sick of seeing once good people, dying out here.
There’s a lot of pain and distrust coming through in these comments, and that shouldn’t be brushed aside. If overdoses are being reversed repeatedly without being captured in any public reporting, that’s not just a clinical issue — it’s a governance and transparency problem.
The core question this article raises is exactly that: when programs claim they are “working,” what data are being counted, what is missing, and what the public is actually being told. Reversals that never enter official data, or impacts that residents experience daily but don’t see reflected in reports, create a gap that erodes trust very quickly.
Before debating motives or punishment, the county has to be able to answer some basic questions clearly:
What outcomes are we measuring?
What events are not being captured?
How often are the same individuals cycling through crises?
And how is that information being used to inform policy adjustments?
People don’t feel angry because they want slogans — they feel angry because they don’t see honesty or accountability. Transparency is where rebuilding trust has to begin.
All this typing is interesting but to us neanderthals what needs to happen is " make illegal drugs illegal and enforce the laws that deemed them illegal"
I understand the instinct behind “make illegal drugs illegal and enforce the law.” Wanting clear rules and consequences is not unreasonable — especially when people feel their community is unraveling.
The challenge is that criminal law, sentencing, and international trafficking enforcement sit largely outside county control. What is within the local authority is how Clallam County responds once this reality exists: how programs are designed, funded, evaluated, and communicated to the public.
That’s why this article focuses on governance rather than slogans. Regardless of one’s views on enforcement, residents should be able to see:
What goals are local programs intended to achieve
What evidence shows those goals are being met locally
What tradeoffs are being accepted
And what happens when conditions on the ground don’t improve
Clear definitions, honest reporting, and accountability don’t replace law enforcement — but without them, communities are left arguing past one another instead of exercising the oversight that is actually available to them.
When the MAT healing/wellness center came onboard a monthly group was created, including a local citizen to be part of the group. The group was suppose to give read outs of different measurements that were suppose to be revealed to the public. Our former mayor, William Armacost, was a member for a while. However never hear a thing about the monthly meetings any longer and what is going on with the tracking of the number of intakes, treated, and discharges?
You can make human trafficking legal...slavery was law...it is still practiced but it's illegal here now...some of the small players get caught and prosecuted but the big wigs get off scot-free. (I suppose 'scot'-free is now a fascist/nazi/racist thing to say)
Well to do that, we need some fresh blood in the government, don't we?
Any peaceful suggestions on how to get that done before it's too late?
Once a gov't is bankrupt, they are then owned by the 'banksters' who 'bail them out' and continually loan more and more money, just like they do with personal bankruptcies, except with personal bankruptcy you can choose to not get into debt again...a self-sustaining government entity can't just quit the money addiction...they have to have continually more...like a heroin addiction...most can't 'manage' at a set level because they won't go through the necessary discomfort between 'fixes'...when you can't tolerate the discomfort you just do what you have to to keep getting more...whatever.
I had a 'working relationship' with prescription opioids for more than 8 years and my quality of life was measurably better.
I simply 'went without' for 6-8 hours per day and experienced the discomfort of that and had reasonable comfort for the other 16-18 hours...but NOOOOOO!
Much better to cut people off and see what happens when the streets are flooded with god-only-knows-what kinds of chemicals...does anyone think the people who produce and distribute the street drugs give two shits about whatever contaminants may be in them, not to mention that it's mostly coming from China, a nation who holds the U.S. responsible (in part) for the Opium Wars which devastated their country for decades?
The U.S. government hasn't been too friendly with the Mexicans either, but our sick culture sure likes all the drugs that come through Mexico.
If I could get safe drugs for pain, I would, but I'm not stupid enough to risk it for all the obvious reasons...I believe Many have died trying. So I deal with chronic and acute pain due to childhood back injuries and years of wear and tear, like so many others.
If the elite coke-sniffers of the world knew how much pollution, death and mayhem are involved with the production of their favorite snuff, they might reconsider...but then narcissists and sociopaths don't care much what else happens as long as they get what they want.
I agree with the sentiment, getting a conviction based on current state laws that Olympia won't amend is the problem. Olympia is busy trying to find a way to take more money from the taxpayers currently.
They are profiting from 'the problems'...write the Whitehouse and demand no more grants for NGO's and NPO's...when the state and local governments then tax the populace to the breaking point to make up the difference...then we will have our answer...to what the breaking point is!☹️
Just video the execution when they are found in possession...saves time and money...WAAAYYY too many to handle with 'due process' especially with all the leftist socialist judges and prosecutors...tribunals are efficient and effective but maybe even that is corrupted, now...Gitmo should be FULL of drug dealers, assassins and corrupt politicians and doctors...but it's crickets!🧐
Everyone found in possession of deadly illegal substances should receive the lethal dose right on the spot...special mobile treatment vans should do the trick.
The next trick is what to do with the whole operation when it's mission is complete...oh, wait...there will never be an end...but it could be slowed WAAAYYY down!
Way cheaper to take care of the widows and children than to bear the burdens of a death-cult culture completely out of control.
But it's SOOOOOO profitable...work your ass off for 1/2 enough to have a decent life or risk it to make 10 years wages in a month! Tough call for many!😈
Thank you — I appreciate the kind words. I see this less as recognition of me personally and more as a reminder that public records and transparency are working exactly as intended. Asking clear questions and letting the documents speak is something any resident or official should be able to do. If this encourages more people to engage thoughtfully with the process, that’s a positive outcome for everyone.
People in Washington state are filing public records requests daily, and lately we have been struck by some of their work.
Among the examples we know about:
• On the Olympic Peninsula, Sarah Huling asked Clallam County for records pertaining to its policies and programs addressing substance abuse. More specifically, Huling wondered whether the county’s programs were actually meeting desired outcomes. The records documented a great deal of activity, but with little clarity – that’s an understatement -- about whether substance abuse was declining because of the county’s actions. And here’s the kicker: Huling is a public official. She is a medical technologist and an elected Forks Community Hospital commissioner.
Dr. Sarah, excellent and informative analysis to question Dr. Berry's statements. You need to be invited to the BoCC table! You have diligently researched a serious issue affecting every resident in Clallam County and have countered our elected leaders' misperceived positive claims on Harm Reduction. All anyone has to do is look on our streets to know our drug and homeless crisis is not improving. Thank you for taking the time from your busy life to help people like me understand better how these metrics should work to bring better clarity and the questions we need to ask. I look forward to learning more from you and your research each Saturday. Have a wonderful weekend with your family!
Denise, thank you — your words mean a great deal to me. I also wanted to give you a quick heads-up that I mentioned you in my recent Clallamity Jen interview as someone whose voice I deeply respect; you always bring thoughtful, grounded insight to these conversations. I hope that was okay.
What matters most to me is helping residents feel better equipped to ask clear, grounded questions and to understand how claims and metrics actually work in public decision-making.
This issue affects all of us, and the only way it improves is when people with diverse experiences remain engaged, informed, and willing to seek clarity and accountability. I’m grateful to be learning alongside this community, and I appreciate you being part of it. Wishing you a wonderful weekend as well.
No problem mentioning my name, Dr. Sarah. Thank you for the compliment. You are a generous heart. You are using your God given talent to help others in so many ways. I appreciate you and pray that God continues to abundantly bless you and your beautiful family.
Teri, that’s an important question — and it’s one that deserves a careful answer.
When data show geographic concentration, it usually reflects a combination of factors rather than a single cause: where services are located, where people can access transportation, where enforcement patterns differ, where people are released from institutions, and where informal networks already exist. Concentration doesn’t necessarily mean a place causes drug use — it often means activity is more visible and more likely to be recorded there.
From a governance perspective, the key questions are:
What factors are driving concentration locally?
Which of those are within county control?
How are programs being designed to mitigate spillover impacts on the surrounding community?
Understanding why Port Angeles shows up this way is exactly the kind of analysis that should inform policy decisions — rather than treating the pattern as either mysterious or inevitable.
Absolutely awesome response. I never meant to indicate that Port Angeles creates addiction; quite the contrary. I believe that the programs and agencies designed to stem the addiction flow have actually created a torrent. That may be accidental, that may be by financial design. All I know is that it is wreaking havoc on a once peaceful and prosperous community.
Nothing is accidental...it's all 'designed' for specific purposes...setting aside naïveté is probably one of the more difficult things 'good people' have to do.😊
'We' City...sounds nice on paper but it means a socialistic governance where we all suffer and reduce our circumstances to meet the lower common denominator.
All the 'haves', except the very poorest, are taxed until they revolt in order to make everything equal and better for 'everyone'.
I believe the majority like the ideology of it, but it is reductive to the majority and the rich don't care too much, they have a bigger cushion than most to absorb the higher tax loads and the very rich have tax benefits which protect more of their 'wealth'. The rich also have the option to relocate themselves and their resources to other jurisdictions which most do not...I have no problem with the rich in theory but I believe most of them get their extreme wealth through some kind of exploitation, whether insider trading, tax havens or outright theft like the 2008 wealth transfer with...
Tim Geithner going from Goldman-Sachs to the Secretary of the Treasury, signing the money from the Federal Reserve! An "Investor/Politician" You can't make this shit up, and you can't get any slimier.
Larry Silverstein made billions from the destruction of the Twin-Towers...he 'purchased' terror insurance just weeks before the event, etc., etc.
All the ignorant people getting nice pensions which derive their profits from wars and killing and polluting industries...it all goes along nicely...until it doesn't...'the end' is a lot closer than it was in the 60's when hippies waved End Is Near signs.
But it's ok, because we are not our bodies and this place is not our home... so this too shall pass! 😎
It's always refreshing to read an enlightened, analytical response. I prefer those who have skills in clearly disemminating an issue rather than leaning on their credentials in a didactic tone.
However, after years of bureaucratic wrangling, I've concluded that it most often comes down to which side of an argument has the best PhD money can buy.
Rita, I understand that frustration. Credentials and expert opinions can easily become substitutes for clarity, especially in bureaucratic systems.
What I’m trying to model here is a different standard: not who is speaking, but what is being claimed, how success is defined, and what evidence is actually being shown locally. When definitions, data, and limits are made explicit, it reduces the ability for any side to simply “out-credential” the other.
That kind of transparency doesn’t solve everything, but it does shift power back toward the public.
I quit believing (anything MSM) during (Fuck-You-Shima) when the talking heads said it was 'just venting steam...a normal occurrence' while the buildings were exploding in the background! That's all it took...after decades of being skeptical, I finally KNEW the truth!
I can hear them at the Globalist water buffalo lodge...Hey Victor we can make a living wage shocking monkeys..Filling America's streets with shocked monkey all over the place...Hey Victor..we can save them with this stuff and it brinks them back to life...we can shock them again and again. Moahahah
I know some of John's stuff is bizarre but he has a way of telling stories 'in code' and I don't get all of it but I do appreciate the creativity and directness...parallel realities...looking at the same thing from different places! Diversity! Now if we could only get 'equity' and 'inclusion' for US!😝
Ken: "Where did the County get this idea of providing harm incentive tools and services was healthy? California? Seattle? Portland?"
ANSWER: It started in Calif to stop the spread of HIV and other blood born diseases. It was a Needle-exchange program and was quite effective! THEN IT GREW LEGS WITH DEMOCRATS and became a profitable business, leading to the much more profitable business of MAT type clinics.
Today's email to commissioners (they did not answer yesterday's):
Dear Commissioners,
Public Health has said these harm-reduction programs are working. What local evidence are you relying on to say that—beyond counts of supplies handed out or services provided? Can you point residents to data that actually shows fewer overdoses, better recovery outcomes, or safer communities here in Clallam County?
All three Clallam County Commissioners can be reached by emailing the Clerk of the Board at loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov.
Maybe this would help the response WE are seeking?
BOCC/BOH Governance Response Template
Thanks for the questions. You’re right to ask for clarity on what “working” means and what local evidence supports that claim.
As County Commissioners, we also sit as the Clallam County Board of Health. That means we are accountable not only for funding and policy direction, but for ensuring the public can see how success is defined and measured—including both (1) public health outcomes and (2) community impacts residents experience daily.
Based on the concerns raised here, the Board of Health will take the following actions:
1) Adopt clear, written definitions of “success.”
Within the next Board of Health cycle, Public Health will present a short, public-facing “Success Definition” document that distinguishes:
Program outputs (services delivered, engagement, reversals), from
Public health outcomes (overdose deaths/nonfatal overdoses trends, treatment linkage, etc.), and
Community impacts (public-space safety indicators and related measures).
2) Require a regular “Outcomes vs. Outputs” dashboard.
We will request a standing quarterly report that clearly separates:
What the program did (outputs)
What changed in the community (outcomes/impact)
What cannot be concluded (limitations; no causal claims)
3) Require plain-language public communication standards.
When the County uses terms like “proven,” “working,” or “improving outcomes,” the accompanying communication must specify:
Which metric is being referenced
The timeframe
Whether it is local or state/national evidence
Any known limitations
4) Hold a public “Define Success” session at a Board of Health meeting.
We will dedicate a portion of an upcoming Board of Health agenda to public input on what community members mean by “success,” with the goal of aligning professional metrics with real-world experience (public spaces, visibility of drug use, and impacts on families).
5) Clarify what the Board can and cannot measure locally.
We will request that Public Health clearly state what data are currently available at the county level, what can be reasonably analyzed locally, and what would require additional resources or partnerships.
The goal is not to argue ideology. The goal is to be precise and transparent: define success, report results honestly, and let residents see how progress is being measured. That is how public trust is built.
— Clallam County Commissioners / Board of Health
Well, that IS what we want! Hope they get it and act on it.
Truth, Justice, Liberty, Accountability and Tough Love😎
Excellent article. Even with citations to quell the inevitable eye rolls from the medical and public health establishment.
Allison Berry proved herself to be one of the most inept public health officials in the country during COVID. Her direct ties to John’s Hopkins University tells you she has zero critical thinking skills and parrots the science coming out of the most dangerous institutions in the world.
I think it’s time for a new public health officer. One that can write and cite sources other than John’s Hopkins and the Gates Foundation. One that actually lives in Clallam county.
Not just Johns Hopkins University ties but ties to the Bloomberg School of Medicine at once proud Johns Hopkins in once proud Baltimore, home of H. L. Mencken and Fort McHenry.
Depopulation and ??? “Maryland Dad.”
I love euphemisms. The world would become a dull place without them. The deception was obvious and causes us to doubt the veracity of our political opponents. Have all of the copy editors vanished? My mother would call the description a "lie of omission". That individual with ties to MS 13 was a paterfamilias in the same respect that Rodney King was simply a "motorist" as described by the LA Times. LOL
AMEN! Get her gone and replaced by someone who embodies...truth, justice, liberty, accountability and tough love...not lies and bullshit!😎
They lost my trust in medical practice. I see her face and I see the AMA/Global playbook.
Whisking a friend into the hospital and never seeing them again...as in be able to see them again alive..
Going through the remdesivr and ventilators. Controlling our lives and creating covid isolation syndrome.
She ran their playbook.
Kevorkian for profit.
Zero trust,
We need new faces and a new system.
John, I hear what you’re saying — once you’ve lived through loss and watched vulnerable people harmed under systems that claimed virtue, you can’t unsee it. Many people feel a fracture in trust, even if they describe it differently.
This article isn’t trying to relitigate everything that went wrong, but it is asking where we begin if we want something better. One area is governance: insisting that officials clearly define what “success” means, demonstrate the evidence they have locally, and be honest about their limitations. That’s a small but real way people can push back against unchecked authority without being overwhelmed.
Empowerment doesn’t come from fixing everything at once — it starts by refusing vague claims and demanding clarity in the spaces where decisions are actually made.
I am terrible. I don’t mind it if the monkeys keep shocking themselves. I just don’t want a bureaucracy to shock them for free. I think when a monkey wants to be a monkey you can’t stop them. Just say no doesn’t work. Zero tolerance taking cars with joints in the ashtray didn’t work. We just built a different section of the blue pages. I am not willing to let the state department have a monopoly on killing monkeys in the war machine
What was typical and offensive to readers was, looking at the dates of the studies being used as evidence. One was 25 years old, several were from 2013, etc. If you want to get REAL with the people, admit that low levels of data exists since Covid days, and no one really cares enough about drug addicts deaths to use
repeatable methods of measuring. Unless you have a grant tied to the outcome. True numbers may have a financial impact on all the “HARM REDUCTION” money being given out through supplies. Of course this is being too logical on my part to think there should be a valid connection.
My mistake, blah blah public health, blah blah positive results!
Plus I’m not using the
“Math can be fun” model to manipulate the stats.
Scammers gotta scam...bamalama ding-dong!
It's obvious what needs to happen but obliviousness has to be overcome first!😎
Dope per se IMO is not actually the problem. Neither Keith Richards nor Robert Downey ever committed a burglary. The problem is the crime associated with drug use. If we apply harsh punishment to crime the drug problem evaporates. I understand the argument against this idea, but I am not convinced. The Volstead Act merely strengthened the power of organized crime. Today our war on drugs is as effective as almost all of our past wars. The war has produced violent and powerful cartel members and converted parts of our cities into battle zones.
There aint no magic dust sprinkled in their faces by Nurse Ratchet making $250,000 a year. There aint no final bust by COPNET from the huge criminal justice pie chart....Just living wage jobs in the blue pages. I'd rather have Snake Pliskin and waste management charge them for being monkeys.
Way more complicated than breaking an egg in a frying pan. Lets recap. We have shocked monkeys that can be revived.
We have choices 1-4
1. Snake Pliskin and Waste Management.
2. Kekorvian Diet of boofing accessories.
3. Nurse ratchet and the magic dust
4. Barnie Fife and COPNET.
Any questions...
The rich kids don't have to burgle to live...there's one difference.
A sick culture that cannot help the disaffected and marginalized to do better partly because many of the very people staffing 'the system' are themselves unhealed and traumatized people...and there are not that many ways to 'make a living' with bottom-end jobs paying about 1/2 of what it takes to 'make it' in our society.
I don't have any answers except from the Spiritual Realm(s)...an empire in collapse (the entire Western world) is a sad recurring event throughout history.
As John W. says..."no magic dust" to fix it...just raw power struggles between the completely insane and the regular insane. (pretty much everyone is a little 'off-the-beam' in the Western world)
I'm an optimistic cynic...I think everything will turn out ok in the future...but it won't have anything to do with humanities capabilities! We're too dumbed down and we don't live long enough to accumulate enough collective wisdom and we have lost our collective Spiritual compass...if we ever had one.
And the wheel turns...🥸
John slightly off topic but I believe that The Executive Monkey Experiment was never replicated because other factors may have been involved in the maladies developed by Harlow's monkeys. I love non-human animals so I thought the experiments were wantonly cruel and without merit.
Until recently our country did not have the stomach to execute dope sellers. In theory though their immediate execution would solve the problem if there is one, but I agree with your assessment about the expansion of our bloated corrupt government. Often the ideal solution is the enemy of the best possible though not perfect solution. I think that we should allow these "astronauts" to modify the chemicals in their brains but when they commit crimes they are put inside prison. IMO Narcan is cheating one of the most important elements of Evolution which is "survival of the fittest".
The "monkey getting shocked by cocaine dispenser" part likely refers to infamous 1960s-1970s animal experiments (known as the Monkey Drug Trials), where rhesus monkeys were given levers to self-administer intravenous cocaine (and other drugs). The monkeys would press the lever obsessively, often to the point of convulsions, exhaustion, or death—essentially "shocking" themselves with massive doses because cocaine is highly reinforcing. Some related studies paired cocaine delivery with electric shocks to test if punishment would deter use, but monkeys still chose the drug in many cases.
Isn’t that just like a monkey? Bet you could get humans to test that theory. Swing by and pick up a couple of dozen in PA.
Something to ease the pain of 'the shocks' (of life) is the bottom line for many...I get it.
Shock me and give me something for the pain and shock me again...seems familiar.
David Icke...as far out as his stories are, makes a lot of sense given the history and current conditions of humanities plight!
Raising personal and collective frequencies is apparently the only way out and it ain't easy!
'You gotta pay your dues if you wanna sing the blues...and you know it don't come easy!' Ringo Starr
Narcan turned the monkey into Sam Francisco...ready for more instead of going down like Jimmy Janis or Jim.
Saving everyone, no matter how bad or evil, is the polar opposite of the Old Testament practice of total genocide of all people and domestic animals in order to 'cleanse' a region for the new occupiers.
Either extreme is as bad as the other.
No capital punishment ensures the worst of the worst remain to influence our culture and society.
Even if they are locked up the cost per inmate is staggering and highly profitable to the corporations overseeing the prisons and fiscally unsustainable along with many of the other 'social' gov't programs... We can't currently even pay the interest on the debt without borrowing more money.
How long does anyone think/feel/believe this can go on?🤓
I want a waste management solution
I don't want Barnie Fife to do it. I don't want nurse Ratchet to do it. I want Snake Pliskin of the Waste Management to do it.
Good choice since waste management is the mafia, why not start at the top?
Great film. "Get a new president".
Maybe West Waste out in Forks has the capacity!🤣
What is your background understanding of the Remdesivir/Ventilator thing?
Is RFK Jr.'s book (The Real Anthony Fauci) accurate enough to outline the conspiracy? The Africa 'trials' with Remdesivir?
We, of course have to rely on 'other' 'experts' and their research teams for our information, as we are 'lay people' who do our research but still don't have first-hand knowledge.
I realize you may be limited in your ability to be candid about every aspect, but it would be nice to have some confirmation from local insiders.
Peter McCullough. Brian Ardis. Sherry TenPenny. Simone Gold. Ryan Cole. Luc Montagnier. Robert Malone. Kary Mullis. Michael Yeadon, and others.
www.RevealingTheTruth.net
Any comment on their credibilties?😎
I respected medical doctors before DEI programs infected universities. Perhaps inclusion and quotas have not caused any real harm but when Michael Jackson died, I said what everyone was thinking. Some people with heads wiser than mine might call medical doctors insurance company employees who obey their superiors. Former doctor Josiah Hill would not be included in that group. Dr. Dean Ornish's book "Eat More, Weigh Less" may be true in theory but defies my field observations. Double blind studies are important because one never witnesses an opposing outcome. Some might say that during the Covid era that Sweden was the other end of a double-blind experiment. Nobody was ever punished for the diabolical lab experiment.
There is truth...they just make it hard to get and share because of Main-Dream-Media!😎
Well good morning Dr. Sarah.
I fall into the category of hearing oddities, and especially if out of my area of understanding, would use terms like "bullshit." Definitely not a masterful argument, but I know that I'm onto something.
On the other hand, when I listen to well educated and thoughtful people such as yourself who are able to assemble the layers in a way that is understandable, then the commoners get to put their bullshit meter to the test. I very much appreciate the visual chart you assembled backed up by the what you've described. It makes the information sing.
I recall listening to the meeting referenced in this article. I've referenced it a few times in other CCWD articles. The overwhelming tone was a bunch of back slapping conduct that I didn't appreciate, not to mention Dr. Berry's generalized, and unchallenged statements. The tone poked fun at those who are perceived as being underneath these people. All that I could think of was that this uber-intelligent committee had no fortitude to ask for specifics as they were too busy letting her wow them about being invited to a state level health meeting to share the self-described successes Clallam County is seeing. And our BOCCC attendees just sat there not asking the hard questions.
I'll put this next meeting on my schedule. Hopefully a few others do as well so that we know how our BOCCC is being influenced, especially on this important topic that is decroding this county.
On a side note. This goes to my larger concern for the other committees the county has in place as an advisory arm for the county to make decisions. Some of these committees tend to be weighted toward activists who somehow benefit from the decisions those committees make and refer to county decision makers. This all follows the unbalanced narratives that do not support the citizens of this county equally, and that I would like to see change. I'd also welcome that any of our BOCCC actually ask the hard questions, but that would have put their personal interests at risk.
MK, thank you for taking the time to listen to the meeting and to articulate what felt off to you. I think what you’re describing isn’t really about intelligence or credentials — it’s about governance posture.
When public officials or advisory bodies receive generalized claims of success without asking for definitions, metrics, or limitations, that’s not expertise being respected — that’s governance being deferred. And that’s where trust erodes.
The point of the article (and the chart) isn’t to accuse public health professionals of bad intent. It’s to show how easily people can talk past one another when “success” isn’t clearly defined. Public health staff often mean program activity and engagement; residents often mean what they see and experience in their communities. Both matter — but they are not interchangeable.
What should have happened in that October meeting — and what still can happen — is very simple and very professional:
“How are we defining success?”
“Which measures reflect program activity vs. community outcomes?”
“What local data do we have, and what can’t we conclude from it?”
“How will this be reported publicly going forward?”
Those aren’t hostile questions. They’re the basic responsibilities of a Board of Health.
I appreciate you putting the next meeting on your calendar. That’s exactly where this conversation belongs — not as a fight, but as a shared effort to define success clearly, measure it honestly, and communicate it plainly. That’s how expertise and community experience are supposed to work together.
And if there’s one takeaway I hope readers and officials alike hear:
Asking for specifics isn’t disrespect. It’s how public trust is built.
The distinction is important that this is about public trust. It's the right, unemotional, way to look at it.
Their 'intent' is to follow their puppet masters from W.E.F. and U.N. Agenda 21+++ and other blatant conspiracy organizations for depopulation and total control...
they have no 'intent' to govern on behalf of regular people...they have a closed loop system, a true echo-chamber with no outside voices reaching their core belief systems...they will not change...although it is possible...
EVERYTHING about their world would be disrupted if they followed Truth, Justice, Liberty, Accountability and Tough Love.
Sociopaths gotta sociopath. We have no 're-education' programs for sociopaths. Get them gone...the outline Dr. Sarah gave for accountability is all we need...that and someone(s) who will hold to that format.
There Will be a LOT of pain when we cut programs back to realistic levels of service and accountable service but the longer term pain is total destruction of our society.🤓
MK, I like the idea of a bullshit meter. Would "0" be polished turds and "10" dysentery? : )
I am a basic vulgarian, so my vernacular is intentionally filled with profanity. Certain words when used with a loud angry voice in public seem to possess a stronger idiomatic force that is lacking in a polite word.
They 'play' us by alternately ignoring and ridiculing us, so we should 'play' them between politeness and open vulgarity...it's a strange form of torment but it might work better...definitely would work better than 'being nice' and 'making requests'.😎
Politicians personal interests and special friends come first? Say it isn't so!😂
We need a couple barrels of scum-remover... all the way from the city/town councils to the Capitol Complex!😜
I am soooooo glad we have people like Dr. Sarah and a host of other contributors step forward with organized straight forward thoughts .So far beyond my shoot from the hip opinions.Thank you.
Thank you — I really appreciate that. My hope is simply to help slow the conversation down enough that we can move from frustration to clarity and ask better questions together.
Dr. Sarah, it's hard to slow the conversations down with so many people frustrated and angry. Your article obviously is not meant to incite people, but in your clarity people realize their anger is justified. Clarity does not stop next years taxes that have been increased for the many areas paid for in Harm Reduction. People are angry and don't know how to redirect it when it was obvious long ago.
You are the beginning of a journey that will take a long time to correct, which only voting will work. I thank you for being a leader in this.
Jennifer, you are the rational calm in a chaotic world. You write with wisdom as if we are young and need to take baby steps. We do need to take baby steps or we will all retreat and leave the Three Little Pigs to their own reality. But just like that you reel us back in and I thank you for that. This topic has so many off-shoots and many of us have had a personal experience. My adult niece OD at age 32 leaving behind a teenage son. I never knew she was an addict. My sister said she withheld that info so we wouldn’t think negative of her daughter. Oh yes, I’d much rather do a eulogy instead of an intervention! I believe there are far more functioning addicts (shoot up at work) than the ones we see on the streets. That being said, how do we ever get an accurate number of drug abusers?
If our law enforcement is too impotent to go after the dealers, well the population is screwed.
And higher costs for 'contracts' being applied for...another general taxation burden being fomented in our direction. Weekend 'rag' in the newsstand...don't recall which...brace for impact!😎
A great way to show the facts and they are fairly understandable. What kept going through my mind though, what did the County do before this Harm Reduction Center opened, say 2016 when I arrived? Scraped the OD'd kid off the sidewalk and took them to the ER. Or you spent 72 in the drunk tank for public intoxication, drugged and disorderly. Where did the County get this idea of providing harm incentive tools and services was healthy? California? Seattle? Portland?
This cannot be the quaint image your local Chamber of Commerce would like promoted; gateway to ONP, shopping, festivals, safe streets. Come do business here. Come open a new business. Raise your family here. Attend college locally. Live. Shop. Play. INSTEAD, what have we got in 2025?
Imagine, if you will, one day the people who operates the HRC didn't show up for work. "Sorry we're closed until further notice." Imagine, the supply chain became disrupted and those syringes and boofing kits you ordered were out of stock, at the bottom of the ocean. Imagine the producers of Naloxone just disappeared. Imagine, the Clallam County funding mechanism suddenly had no more money. Imagine.
Ken, that’s a fair question, and it’s the right place to focus.
Around 2015–2016, the rapid spread of illicit fentanyl changed overdose risk dramatically, and at the same time, public health guidance nationally shifted toward harm-reduction approaches aimed primarily at preventing death. Counties didn’t develop this in isolation; they adopted it through state and federal public health channels.
The issue this article raises isn’t whether something different was done before, or whether harm reduction exists elsewhere. It’s whether Clallam County has clearly defined what success looks like locally, how it is being measured, and how community impacts factor into those decisions.
Public health often evaluates success through engagement, services provided, and the number of overdose reversals. Many residents evaluate success based on their daily experiences — including public safety, visible drug use, and whether the community feels like a place to live, work, and raise a family. Those are different measures, and they shouldn’t be discussed as if they were the same.
That’s where governance comes in. The Board of Health’s role is to make those definitions explicit, be clear about what data shows locally (and what it doesn’t), and communicate honestly with the public about both public health outcomes and community impacts. That conversation hasn’t really happened in the open yet — and that gap is what this article aims to highlight.
Thank you for your focus on clearly stated goals and uncovering factual data while ignoring the antagonistic swirl of rhetoric.
This is truly the only way I want to see change happen.
In 2016, when my legitimate opiod prescription was canceled, no counseling, no tapering, no compassion...like thousands(millions?) around the country, many were lost to intentional overdose and suicide, way more than were dying incidentally, usually in their sleep on their CPAPS with morbid obesity, diabetes, COPD, Cancer, Heart Disease, etc.
AT THE SAME EXACT TIME...fentanyl and other more deadly drugs flooded the streets and started showing up in everything, including 'death bowls'...pipes filled with high-octane cannabis, crack cocaine, fentanyl and anything else they think about stuffing in them...yes, they call them 'death bowls' and do them anyway.
Do you think... maybe they WANT OUT!
The inhumane thing is to insist on keeping them here, in torment, in their personal hells...to keep cycling through the death spiral again and again..the loving thing would be to let them go...only a devil would want to increase and prolong the suffering of any being, human or not...do-gooding is sometimes BAD!🥸
'Harm Reduction' is the devil's playground!😱
In 2016-2018, PA Councilmember Amy Miller was a “community change agent” (instead of a social worker), hanging out with criminal druggies on the street and starting to cobble together a political coalition to support them and suck the county and city dry. Serenity House was essentially bankrupt and had to go begging to the county for funds. Then COVID came late in 2019 and money fell like rain.
P.A. is a 'WE' city...a sanctuary city...NWO, UN, Soros, Gates, etc.🤓
A girl can dream, don’t take that away!
See my post above under Dr. Sarah...right on AFB.😎
Now you have come to my pet peace with our state and county. Harm reduction. None of them make sense and I have had 3 personal experiences on how drug relationships have affected my life. All successes happened due to accountability... Two jail sentences and one was just adhereing to the rules to stay on the property. After the jail sentences, one became a councilor, the other a teacher who I taught with and he was adamant about sharing his experiences to help the youth we were teaching trades to get into apprentice programs in the area. I call him a super hero to his face!
Empower vs. enabling it's easy to chose the proven method to success. Thanks Jeff for sharing the misguided Dr. Barry to all who have experience over a shrouded degree. She is a huge part of the problem!
Glen, thank you for sharing those experiences — they matter, and they’re powerful. What you’re describing highlights something that often gets lost in these debates: for many people, accountability, structure, and clear expectations are not punishment; they’re stabilizing forces that make recovery possible. Your examples show how lives can change when systems create real consequences and real pathways forward.
Where this connects to the article is in how success is being defined. Some people respond to harm reduction supports, others respond to accountability, and many need a combination that evolves over time. The governance question is whether local programs are designed to recognize those differences, measure long-term outcomes, and avoid confusing enablement with empowerment.
The goal isn’t to dismiss harm reduction outright or elevate one story over another, but to be honest about what’s working, for whom, and at what cost — and to adjust policy accordingly. Your comment underscores why that clarity is so important.
God works in mysterious ways…….
My prayers are answered eventually……usually! Mainly asking for truth to shine the light on evil.
Today I’m grateful for Dr. Sarah, her knowledge and her courage to reach out & explain more is needed to deal with Clallam County drug abused & Dr. Berry is fake, has failed in MANY ways to support that of which she advocates.
I thought by Dr. Berry moving on to her current position from treating patients at Jamestown would alleviate our problems as patients but she hasn’t changed….she is the same hasn’t changed…..her way or the highway, her fact gathering John Hopkins educated background discounting any other knowledge or facts and without having the same credentials or more than her then you KNOW NOTHING.
THANK YOU DR. SARAH for challenging Dr. Berry because it will certainly take someone like you to CRACK the BULLSHIT mountain Dr. Berry has been allowed to create. Dr. Berry has not been held accountable because her mouth out talks everyone while those she has messed up are busy trying to get their medical issues under control.
We will support Dr. Sarah to gather the real data, not the Berry lingo she spews for her continued job security & we hope others will do the same.
I want to pause here and acknowledge that what you’re describing sounds rooted in real pain and difficult experiences. When people feel harmed, unheard, or dismissed by systems meant to help them, that leaves lasting wounds — and it’s understandable to look for someone to blame or someone to fix it.
I also want to be clear about my role. I’m not a savior, and no single person is solely responsible for the outcomes we’re seeing. These are complex, system-level issues involving policy choices, oversight structures, incentives, and accountability — not just one individual.
What I’m trying to do is shift the conversation away from personal blame and toward something more durable: clear definitions of success, transparent data, honest acknowledgment of limits, and shared responsibility in governance. That’s the only way systems actually change, and it’s the only way people who’ve been hurt don’t get hurt again by false promises.
Your voice matters — and so does keeping this grounded in fairness, evidence, and collective accountability.
Dr. Sarah, I appreciate your reply. However I do hold Dr. Berry accountable, she is the speaker, she is the boss, she is the person who is steam rolling this County when it comes to our healthcare & she is the one pushing for control over future pandemics. That in itself should be addressed & abolished. Very much understand the NEED & shift to real data which obviously has and is VOID. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT it is all complex. We need the fact-finders! There are so many out of control issues rooted in nothing burgers it is overwhelming, but one thing at a time. I thank Jeff, Jake, Jen, yourself, Virginia & John for taking the extra steps, to continue to keep facts & truth out in the light, helping us all along this journey back close to center. A lot of commenters on here are trying hard to hold wrong doers accountable by speaking, writing, asking questions with no reply or consideration & acknowledgement of the data & facts.
Please show up to the last Charter Review Committee Meeting Monday night 5:30pm or speak up on Zoom during public comment because what should be a slam dunk regarding the breech of Client-Attorney privilege by Stoffer is being allowed by Chair, Fisch, Pickett & others who are protecting their democrat friend regardless of the seriousness of the offense. This committee could have accomplished so many needed issues but instead undermined the process with their political attacks.
How do we shift away from personal blame when the miscreants ARE to blame?
We need other targets /channels for the energy and you and Jake and others ARE stepping into the conversation, so that is hopeful! Thanks!😊
Block Scary-Berry, the wicked witch fairy, whose credentials are fake (non-scientific mind-controlled roboid) and especially hairy!
If you value your life...don't believe anything she says, unless you can prove it yourself!
Some of us KNOW who and what you ARE...you attracted angry people to your (incorrect) residence with your last showing...are you going to do it again?😎
Because it’s not designed to actually help anyone. The design focuses on using government dollars to hire friendly SJWs and push money to local NGOs. The numbers are used as a rationale, just enough to get past most voters. Meanwhile, we keep hearing the early morning PAFD sirens as they go off to help the local gentry who just won’t wake up and need the magic whiff of Narcan.
I was just speaking to a friend who is now coming up on 2 months clean. He had a little over 3 years clean originally, with the assistance of suboxone.
He went back out recently and was brought back with Narcan twice. Those 2 incidents were never reported to first responders.
He says many people are overdosing daily and being brought back with narcan and not reporting it.
If drug dealers started getting charged with murder, I think maybe we could start a process of cleaning up the drugs distributed in the area.
I'm sick of seeing once good people, dying out here.
There’s a lot of pain and distrust coming through in these comments, and that shouldn’t be brushed aside. If overdoses are being reversed repeatedly without being captured in any public reporting, that’s not just a clinical issue — it’s a governance and transparency problem.
The core question this article raises is exactly that: when programs claim they are “working,” what data are being counted, what is missing, and what the public is actually being told. Reversals that never enter official data, or impacts that residents experience daily but don’t see reflected in reports, create a gap that erodes trust very quickly.
Before debating motives or punishment, the county has to be able to answer some basic questions clearly:
What outcomes are we measuring?
What events are not being captured?
How often are the same individuals cycling through crises?
And how is that information being used to inform policy adjustments?
People don’t feel angry because they want slogans — they feel angry because they don’t see honesty or accountability. Transparency is where rebuilding trust has to begin.
Social Justice for some has created social injustice for others. These agents are not neutral. I think their altruism has cause harm.
All this typing is interesting but to us neanderthals what needs to happen is " make illegal drugs illegal and enforce the laws that deemed them illegal"
I understand the instinct behind “make illegal drugs illegal and enforce the law.” Wanting clear rules and consequences is not unreasonable — especially when people feel their community is unraveling.
The challenge is that criminal law, sentencing, and international trafficking enforcement sit largely outside county control. What is within the local authority is how Clallam County responds once this reality exists: how programs are designed, funded, evaluated, and communicated to the public.
That’s why this article focuses on governance rather than slogans. Regardless of one’s views on enforcement, residents should be able to see:
What goals are local programs intended to achieve
What evidence shows those goals are being met locally
What tradeoffs are being accepted
And what happens when conditions on the ground don’t improve
Clear definitions, honest reporting, and accountability don’t replace law enforcement — but without them, communities are left arguing past one another instead of exercising the oversight that is actually available to them.
When the MAT healing/wellness center came onboard a monthly group was created, including a local citizen to be part of the group. The group was suppose to give read outs of different measurements that were suppose to be revealed to the public. Our former mayor, William Armacost, was a member for a while. However never hear a thing about the monthly meetings any longer and what is going on with the tracking of the number of intakes, treated, and discharges?
Say one thing and do another...no accountability...no public trust...they think we're fools...and we are if we let it continue!😜
You can make ice cream illegal. The trick is not let it take control of you and realize when you are being a monkey.
You can make human trafficking legal...slavery was law...it is still practiced but it's illegal here now...some of the small players get caught and prosecuted but the big wigs get off scot-free. (I suppose 'scot'-free is now a fascist/nazi/racist thing to say)
Well to do that, we need some fresh blood in the government, don't we?
Any peaceful suggestions on how to get that done before it's too late?
Once a gov't is bankrupt, they are then owned by the 'banksters' who 'bail them out' and continually loan more and more money, just like they do with personal bankruptcies, except with personal bankruptcy you can choose to not get into debt again...a self-sustaining government entity can't just quit the money addiction...they have to have continually more...like a heroin addiction...most can't 'manage' at a set level because they won't go through the necessary discomfort between 'fixes'...when you can't tolerate the discomfort you just do what you have to to keep getting more...whatever.
I had a 'working relationship' with prescription opioids for more than 8 years and my quality of life was measurably better.
I simply 'went without' for 6-8 hours per day and experienced the discomfort of that and had reasonable comfort for the other 16-18 hours...but NOOOOOO!
Much better to cut people off and see what happens when the streets are flooded with god-only-knows-what kinds of chemicals...does anyone think the people who produce and distribute the street drugs give two shits about whatever contaminants may be in them, not to mention that it's mostly coming from China, a nation who holds the U.S. responsible (in part) for the Opium Wars which devastated their country for decades?
The U.S. government hasn't been too friendly with the Mexicans either, but our sick culture sure likes all the drugs that come through Mexico.
If I could get safe drugs for pain, I would, but I'm not stupid enough to risk it for all the obvious reasons...I believe Many have died trying. So I deal with chronic and acute pain due to childhood back injuries and years of wear and tear, like so many others.
If the elite coke-sniffers of the world knew how much pollution, death and mayhem are involved with the production of their favorite snuff, they might reconsider...but then narcissists and sociopaths don't care much what else happens as long as they get what they want.
BRAVE NEW WORLD? I Think Not!😎
Charge drug dealers with murder
I agree with the sentiment, getting a conviction based on current state laws that Olympia won't amend is the problem. Olympia is busy trying to find a way to take more money from the taxpayers currently.
They are profiting from 'the problems'...write the Whitehouse and demand no more grants for NGO's and NPO's...when the state and local governments then tax the populace to the breaking point to make up the difference...then we will have our answer...to what the breaking point is!☹️
Just video the execution when they are found in possession...saves time and money...WAAAYYY too many to handle with 'due process' especially with all the leftist socialist judges and prosecutors...tribunals are efficient and effective but maybe even that is corrupted, now...Gitmo should be FULL of drug dealers, assassins and corrupt politicians and doctors...but it's crickets!🧐
AFB, yes stop it at the top! I feel sorry for the fish that were exposed to all the fentanyl blown in the water.
I never though of that...but the ones that survived can now sink battleships with a single 'blow'!
I think we can hope and pray for better but this world is a tough gig!
Cheers for whatever the next episode of 'As The World Turns' brings!☺️
AFB, can't clean up dissolved drugs in an ocean.
The Ocean EATS fentanyl for snacks...it's had atom bombs and warships and every kind of desolation...but she will prevail... when her water breaks!😎
Everyone found in possession of deadly illegal substances should receive the lethal dose right on the spot...special mobile treatment vans should do the trick.
The next trick is what to do with the whole operation when it's mission is complete...oh, wait...there will never be an end...but it could be slowed WAAAYYY down!
Way cheaper to take care of the widows and children than to bear the burdens of a death-cult culture completely out of control.
But it's SOOOOOO profitable...work your ass off for 1/2 enough to have a decent life or risk it to make 10 years wages in a month! Tough call for many!😈
Yes, I agree Bill. We need to go back to the basics that worked then and will work now. Somehow "illegal" has been bastardized.
illegal
adjective
1. contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law
Going back to Lawful instead of 'legal' would be a huge start!😎
Steve O, that’s right, bring them back to life with Narcan and they can wake up in jail. Plus pay for FD or EMT expenses.
The Kevorkian bureaucracy. Government roster spots to keep shocking the monkey.
The poor monkeys...between the spanking and the shocking, they don't get a break!🤣
It would seem that Dr. Huling has been noticed at a larger level. Congratulations!
Came across this on a FB feed this morning. The timing, uncanny, for the Washington Coalition for Open Government.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Ce1vcpfkS/
"WashCOG is an independent, nongovernmental advocate for government transparency"
https://www.washcog.org/
Wow, wow, wow! Folks, we are moving the needle!!! Great work Dr. Sarah!
Wow!! Dr. Sarah is on the map! Congratulations!
Moving lots of free needles, that's for sure!😝
Thank you — I appreciate the kind words. I see this less as recognition of me personally and more as a reminder that public records and transparency are working exactly as intended. Asking clear questions and letting the documents speak is something any resident or official should be able to do. If this encourages more people to engage thoughtfully with the process, that’s a positive outcome for everyone.
MK, had to copy and paste it !!!! THANK YOU
Washington Coalition for Open Government
People in Washington state are filing public records requests daily, and lately we have been struck by some of their work.
Among the examples we know about:
• On the Olympic Peninsula, Sarah Huling asked Clallam County for records pertaining to its policies and programs addressing substance abuse. More specifically, Huling wondered whether the county’s programs were actually meeting desired outcomes. The records documented a great deal of activity, but with little clarity – that’s an understatement -- about whether substance abuse was declining because of the county’s actions. And here’s the kicker: Huling is a public official. She is a medical technologist and an elected Forks Community Hospital commissioner.
Dr. Sarah, excellent and informative analysis to question Dr. Berry's statements. You need to be invited to the BoCC table! You have diligently researched a serious issue affecting every resident in Clallam County and have countered our elected leaders' misperceived positive claims on Harm Reduction. All anyone has to do is look on our streets to know our drug and homeless crisis is not improving. Thank you for taking the time from your busy life to help people like me understand better how these metrics should work to bring better clarity and the questions we need to ask. I look forward to learning more from you and your research each Saturday. Have a wonderful weekend with your family!
Denise, thank you — your words mean a great deal to me. I also wanted to give you a quick heads-up that I mentioned you in my recent Clallamity Jen interview as someone whose voice I deeply respect; you always bring thoughtful, grounded insight to these conversations. I hope that was okay.
What matters most to me is helping residents feel better equipped to ask clear, grounded questions and to understand how claims and metrics actually work in public decision-making.
This issue affects all of us, and the only way it improves is when people with diverse experiences remain engaged, informed, and willing to seek clarity and accountability. I’m grateful to be learning alongside this community, and I appreciate you being part of it. Wishing you a wonderful weekend as well.
No problem mentioning my name, Dr. Sarah. Thank you for the compliment. You are a generous heart. You are using your God given talent to help others in so many ways. I appreciate you and pray that God continues to abundantly bless you and your beautiful family.
Every day is Halloween with Scary-Berry!😱
I only have 1 question: Why do these studies all appear to show that Port Angeles is the 'go to' spot for drug use?
Teri, that’s an important question — and it’s one that deserves a careful answer.
When data show geographic concentration, it usually reflects a combination of factors rather than a single cause: where services are located, where people can access transportation, where enforcement patterns differ, where people are released from institutions, and where informal networks already exist. Concentration doesn’t necessarily mean a place causes drug use — it often means activity is more visible and more likely to be recorded there.
From a governance perspective, the key questions are:
What factors are driving concentration locally?
Which of those are within county control?
How are programs being designed to mitigate spillover impacts on the surrounding community?
Understanding why Port Angeles shows up this way is exactly the kind of analysis that should inform policy decisions — rather than treating the pattern as either mysterious or inevitable.
Absolutely awesome response. I never meant to indicate that Port Angeles creates addiction; quite the contrary. I believe that the programs and agencies designed to stem the addiction flow have actually created a torrent. That may be accidental, that may be by financial design. All I know is that it is wreaking havoc on a once peaceful and prosperous community.
Nothing is accidental...it's all 'designed' for specific purposes...setting aside naïveté is probably one of the more difficult things 'good people' have to do.😊
Mic drop
'We' City...sounds nice on paper but it means a socialistic governance where we all suffer and reduce our circumstances to meet the lower common denominator.
All the 'haves', except the very poorest, are taxed until they revolt in order to make everything equal and better for 'everyone'.
I believe the majority like the ideology of it, but it is reductive to the majority and the rich don't care too much, they have a bigger cushion than most to absorb the higher tax loads and the very rich have tax benefits which protect more of their 'wealth'. The rich also have the option to relocate themselves and their resources to other jurisdictions which most do not...I have no problem with the rich in theory but I believe most of them get their extreme wealth through some kind of exploitation, whether insider trading, tax havens or outright theft like the 2008 wealth transfer with...
Tim Geithner going from Goldman-Sachs to the Secretary of the Treasury, signing the money from the Federal Reserve! An "Investor/Politician" You can't make this shit up, and you can't get any slimier.
Larry Silverstein made billions from the destruction of the Twin-Towers...he 'purchased' terror insurance just weeks before the event, etc., etc.
All the ignorant people getting nice pensions which derive their profits from wars and killing and polluting industries...it all goes along nicely...until it doesn't...'the end' is a lot closer than it was in the 60's when hippies waved End Is Near signs.
But it's ok, because we are not our bodies and this place is not our home... so this too shall pass! 😎
Teri, we are the definition of A PERFECT STORM
1. an extremely bad situation in which many bad things happen at the same time
But they ARE exciting, eh?😊
It's always refreshing to read an enlightened, analytical response. I prefer those who have skills in clearly disemminating an issue rather than leaning on their credentials in a didactic tone.
However, after years of bureaucratic wrangling, I've concluded that it most often comes down to which side of an argument has the best PhD money can buy.
Rita, I understand that frustration. Credentials and expert opinions can easily become substitutes for clarity, especially in bureaucratic systems.
What I’m trying to model here is a different standard: not who is speaking, but what is being claimed, how success is defined, and what evidence is actually being shown locally. When definitions, data, and limits are made explicit, it reduces the ability for any side to simply “out-credential” the other.
That kind of transparency doesn’t solve everything, but it does shift power back toward the public.
Trans-parency...does that mean I've transcended my parents, now? Or were my parents really 'trans'? So confusing!🤣🤪😂
I quit believing (anything MSM) during (Fuck-You-Shima) when the talking heads said it was 'just venting steam...a normal occurrence' while the buildings were exploding in the background! That's all it took...after decades of being skeptical, I finally KNEW the truth!
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I can hear them at the Globalist water buffalo lodge...Hey Victor we can make a living wage shocking monkeys..Filling America's streets with shocked monkey all over the place...Hey Victor..we can save them with this stuff and it brinks them back to life...we can shock them again and again. Moahahah
I know some of John's stuff is bizarre but he has a way of telling stories 'in code' and I don't get all of it but I do appreciate the creativity and directness...parallel realities...looking at the same thing from different places! Diversity! Now if we could only get 'equity' and 'inclusion' for US!😝
Bringing Out the Dead
Ken: "Where did the County get this idea of providing harm incentive tools and services was healthy? California? Seattle? Portland?"
ANSWER: It started in Calif to stop the spread of HIV and other blood born diseases. It was a Needle-exchange program and was quite effective! THEN IT GREW LEGS WITH DEMOCRATS and became a profitable business, leading to the much more profitable business of MAT type clinics.
Follow the 'Pelosi' chart for investing! Twisted but effective...but she still can't take it with her!😝