The commissioners did not answer yesterday's questions about holding a town hall to discuss the Dungeness Recreation Area. Here is today's question:
Dear Commissioners,
People are concerned about how much influence a single major donor or powerful local interest may have in county decision-making — and about the way critics are sometimes brushed off. What are you doing, specifically, to make sure your communications with major private interests and tribal partners are transparent? Will the public be able to see who you’re meeting with, what’s being discussed, and how those conversations might affect land-use decisions or the county’s tax base?
This response is fictional. The citations are real. The attitude is not.
Dear Constituent,
I understand concerns about transparency, but it’s important to recognize that not everyone is equipped to understand complex governance decisions. As an experienced commissioner, I rely on my instincts, relationships, and personal judgment to determine what information is relevant for public consumption.
Research shows that leaders routinely overestimate their own objectivity and believe they are less susceptible to bias than others—especially when they view themselves as principled, well-intentioned, or uniquely qualified (Bazerman & Moore, 2013). Formal accountability mechanisms can feel redundant when decision-makers already “know” they are acting in the public’s best interest (GAO, 2020).
Frankly, requiring every conversation with influential partners to be visible to the public creates unnecessary friction. Informal discussions are how things actually get done, even though courts have repeatedly warned that such practices undermine public trust and violate open-government principles (Cathcart v. Andersen, 1975).
While transparency laws exist, they are often treated as technical constraints rather than foundational safeguards, particularly when leaders believe their identity, values, or track record should be sufficient substitutes for formal process (OECD, 2020; MRSC, n.d.).
I appreciate public interest in these matters, though it’s important to recognize that not all aspects of governance are well-suited to public interpretation. My role, informed by experience and institutional knowledge, is to determine when transparency adds value—and when it distracts from effective leadership (Bazerman & Moore, 2013; OECD, 2020).
Sincerely,
Commissioner Who Knows Better
Clallam County Board of Commissioners
P.S. This response is empirically accurate as a description of how bad governance is justified.
References
Bazerman, M. H., & Moore, D. A. (2013). Judgment in managerial decision making (8th ed.). Wiley.
→ Documents overconfidence, moral licensing, and leaders’ belief that their intentions negate the need for oversight.
Cathcart v. Andersen, 85 Wn.2d 102 (1975).
→ Holds that informal, private discussions related to official business violate open-meeting principles.
Government Accountability Office. (2020). Standards for internal control in the federal government (GAO-20-540G). https://www.gao.gov
→ Identifies informal decision-making and undocumented influence as high-risk governance failures.
Municipal Research and Services Center. (n.d.). Open Public Meetings Act and governing body roles. https://mrsc.org
→ Warns against treating transparency as optional or subordinate to efficiency.
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. (2020). OECD principles of public governance. https://www.oecd.org
→ Finds that reliance on informal power and identity-based trust erodes legitimacy and accountability.
holy mole! imagine if the folks on planning weren't there and don't bother to listen/view the comments. I listened to comments twice and heard something completely different. great catch
I was responding to Marge’s quote by pointing to a moment on the public record that illustrates it. In the meeting (~5:40), Bruce Emery refers to CC Watchdog commenters as “rabid.” My comment was meant to connect “believe them the first time” to how public participants were characterized on the record.
Rabid" is an adjective describing someone with extreme, fanatical, or unreasonable devotion to a cause, belief, or fan base. It also refers to animals or humans infected with the rabies virus, often characterized by violent or frenzied behavior. Synonyms include fanatic, overzealous, and furious.
Good Governance Proverb: Good governance keeps disputes anchored in authority, process, and accountability—because identity debates have no governing mechanism.
The JST and Jamestown Corporation are fortunate to have such a visionary leader. Tribal or sovereignty status today accomplishes nothing for JST ancestors. It does make those with sufficient blood quantum and whatever absurdity that might make that matter Paris Hiltons; progeny of the elite. Noted by Ron as pivotal was tribal success in seating Maria Cantwell over Slade Gorton. Cantwell a stereotypical Democrat that does not know any "minority" classification she does not favor. Ron has learned to play the political game well, but he plays it with a crown bestowed upon him by the politicians he panders to. A perfect candidate for a No Kings protest.
We had a guest from out of the area last month who interviewed with the tribe to work on the oyster farm. They shared that they were asked point blank in their interview what their political alignment was.
Now, think about alllll the folks who might apply for a job with the tribe and move to the peninsula. Talk about stacking the deck.
It's not racial, it's not ethnic, it's when one group has an unfair advantage over another and when one group imposes an unfair financial burden on another. No one likes monopolies, no one likes unfairness.
Exceptional work connecting Allen's own words to current realities. The through-line from that 2003 interview to today's political landscape is striking - especially the explicit stratgey around younger demographics and media influence. Saw similar patterns play out in local governance disputes elsewhere, where accountability rhetoric and actual practice diverged once power was consolidated.
The connection to the youth is the reason for the Dungeness Wildlife refuge, eventual Clallam County parks, and the nature center. They're all designed to inculcate the youth into their way of thinking.
I want reparations for my heritage Irish forced work! Indentured servants in house work, mill work, mining etc.... so unfair that my ancestors are getting no reparations.
I am not shocked by the success that Ron Allen has achieved. No different than Bill Gates ,Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and others. They bend the rules to their advantage and step on toes to achieve their lofty positions. They have a common trait. They are all smart and rich because of it. Since Ron is not in jail for any crimes we have allowed him to get the power he has. You do not have to agree with him but he ain’t going away. So why do we not spend our energy on voting people that agree with us and at least rule some of CC that would offset some of the business decisions we CAN control. Our animosity towards the Tribe is not helping us towards getting them to cave into the tax inecuties that are lopsided. It only makes it worse. Deal with the Tribe in a manner of changing our leadership first. I know your responses will be negative and cruel but reflect on the solution not the past We can make a more equitable CC with our votes and change but it will take a lot of work to undo what we have allowed to happen
You are correct! We ARE finally trying. Jeff T really got us off the starting block with his CCW. Lots of people are discovering that many other folks feel the same way about our local, elected government not representing us. Not governing for the majority, the tax paying citizen. It's time for us to support Jake Seegers! He has graciously and steadfastly taken up the task of being a true representative of the people. Let's get on the track and drive him to the
I 100% support Jake Ssegers for District 3 County Commissioner! That doesn't mean that I will submissively and passively let other leaders systematically purge my rights and freedoms. I will speak up when an issue is right or wrong. For far too long, too many good people have been bullied into silence and inaction.
I have been so happy to see Jake Seeger buttons worn "in the wild" this week. While it might not occur in situations appropriate for longer conversation I can at least say "like your button" or "that pin looks good on us" and smile.
I love that, Susie! Eric is the mastermind behind the buttons — and I keep seeing them popping up all around town. I am truly humbled by all of your support. Thank you, Eric, for the amazing idea and for all the hard work you’ve put into making it happen!
I gotta say that in reading some of your responses wrt the Jamestown Corporation/Ron Allen about "negative and cruel" responses hasn't played out yet, and I don't expect it will. What you have to say is reasonable.
I'm trying to draw the distinction because the "stink" that the CCWD gets for being anti Corporation/Tribe/Allen is in my opinion missing what's being discussed, on a regular basis. I almost think that it's a societal halo effect that shields any protected groups from negative conversations.
Your statement has been echoed by others that the CCWD is anti Tribe, but the distinction is hard for people to absorb. All that I've ever read is that a level playing field is what's desired. It's all that I expect. That's not wrong, and I think that's what you're realistically saying as well.
Find me someone who espouses getting rid of the tribe, treating their people less than anyone else and I'll stand with you and object. But that simply isn't going on.
Influence pedaling by interest groups that look for favorabt legislation for their businessess has been deemed bad for democracy. What the tribes, or any other interest group, and politicians are doing now is using taxpayer dollars to pay off donors, to stay elected. If that doesn't stink like low tide then I don't know what does. And that's happening right here in Clallam County. In that sense Ron Allen, via his Corporation, is no different than IBM influencing legislation for their own business. I object to any of these methods, he gets no pass because he's NA.
Well put MK.... I've read many times how Jeff has zero I'll will toward the Tribal community. It's totally different when they don't pay taxes on many different levels the rest of business and property owners in Clallam County must. It had to change and we all can coexist in a happy place. Well , I still hope the harm reduction program leaves here forever!
Our energy is being focused on the Tribe when we can spend it on changing other things to get our County solvent. We waste so much of our tax dollars on things we can change. Until we get our books in order the Tribe is the least of our worries.i am for Jake to get that started
Jen, the election laws and rules in this state. absolutely ensure the Democrats will rule forever. Our only hope is that mail in voting will be declared illegal. Until then, we are screwed.
So then Ron Allen is 3/4 white colonizer. Which brings up the possibility that his white colonizer ancestor, may have dominated or taken by force, maybe there was a free coupling, but, Shame on him for monetizing on that. He’s a colonizer like the rest of us white racists
Learn from Ron Allen. Educate yourselves, GET INVOLVED, make your voices heard, put your hat in the ring, align with organizations that support the goals, dig in your pocket and GIVE $$’s to support the candidates and the goals, get involved! When you sit on the sidelines you lose. Ron Allen is a perfect example of what it takes to be successful. Ron doesn’t win by complaining & bitching, Ron Allen is winning because he is doing, he is out on the field, he is running the plays and scoring. Let’s get the train stopped & turned around & push Jake over the goal line, let’s fill the stands & slowly continue to take our cities & county back, just like Ron Allen did for his tribe.
The Travesty And Tradgedy That Is The Boldt Decision, Part 2
The travesty continues. I recommend you read the decision yourself, not all at once, I don't. I take it in doses. It is bitter medicine. Worthless too and, for your benefit and, hopefully, future generations, I re-dip myself in it. If it seems I am a masochist, so be it. Just ponder what you are allowing to continue be done to you and your friends and loved ones.
After writing, "There is no indication that the Indians intended or understood the language "in common with all citizens of the Territory" to limit their right to fish in any way," he ignored many indications that were extremely obvious as listed in Part 1. Now, in Part 2, let's look at how his own words contradict him.
Regarding weirs (look up the definition) used to catch fish, "Control and use patterns of fishing gear varied according to the nature of the gear. Certain types required cooperative effort in their construction and/or handling. Weirs were classed as cooperative property but the component fishing stations on the weir were individually controlled." Could we replace "cooperative" with "common" and not change the meaning of the sentence? Was he avoiding a certain "c" word on purpose?
"At the time of the treaties Indian control over fishing practices was by customary
modes of conduct [**99] rather than by formal regulations. Controls were necessary in cooperative fishing efforts which required coordination by someone who organized and directed the group effort. The construction of a weir was usually a cooperative effort, a
number of men working under the direction of a leader. The entire community usually had access to the weir, the leader regulating the order of use and the times at which the weir was opened to allow upstream escapement for spawning and/or supply for up-river fishermen." Ooh! Customary, conduct, coopertive, coordination, community! That's a bunch of "c" words all implying working together in common! But Boldt is blind, right?
One more and then I'll let you go. "Catch and release," right? Well, I hope I have caught your attention.
"Documentation as to which Indians used specific fishing sites is incomplete. George Gibbs noted that: "As regards the fisheries, they are held in common, and no tribe pretends to claim
from another, or from individuals, seignorage for the right of taking. In fact, such a claim would be inconvenient to all parties, as the Indians move about, on the sound particularly, from one to another locality, according [**86] to the season."
Uh, “ , . . held in common, . . .” and Boldt just surges on past? Okay, who is George Gibb? Must be a Trumper, right?
Look him up. He was an expert familiar with the Indians culture and language. But here's the kicker, he was present at many of the treaty negotiations and his expertise was utilized. Slight omission, eh, Judge Boldt? (See Part 1).
Almost end of Part 2.
For fun, try to think up some things that would show, prove the Indians were well versed in the concept of "in common," even with all others.
Treat Ron and the JKT as the cancer, the death cult they have become just like their sponsors the unAmerican Democratic Party death cult. Read the treaty. It doesn’t justify the false narratives.
Maybe they are doing us a favor. It doesn't seem like the County wants to repair/save it; Maybe someone should start a go fund me for the bridge. The County can't even keep up with the repairs to major roads.
If you read the article, you’ll see the bridge is on “their” land and Clallam doesn’t get a voice in it. The tribal council is not even remotely interested in whatever the public has to say. Steel it is!
It seems to me that y'all are forgetting something important. Settlers taught Ron Allen how to use your colonial systems. The Jamestown tribe has learned to use your own systems, and you don't like the result. But they aren't doing anything y'all didn't do to them for hundreds of years. If you want an equal playing field, maybe you need to acknowledge all the ways your ancestors stole land, water, etc. If you want an example, look at Lake Farm Rd and Bagley Creek Rd N. History. That old settler drained the lake into the Straits just so he could farm hay. And now, the people who live there can't even water that land!
This is pretty hypocritical considering how much water has been pushed around under tribal initiation and oversight especially since the Bolt decisions. Heavy lobbying, effective PR, not to mention important political connections, has created a sad double standard and a lot of hypocrisy.
The fact that Jamestown was never a formal “ tribe” has been largely ignored. Allen et al owned their land. No “reservation” with discreet boundaries existed ( but now we have the random land acquisition of recent years…especially around water and Sequim). Historically, All individuals living here owned land they could sell, develop, or whatever. Allen initially became educated in the Sequim School District. Never was there any tribal association then. Allen, like every other student, was…just a student…never did we hear the word “Indian” at our school. Making jokes about being one quarter native and three quarters European causes no one to pause about hypocrisy? identity politics did not exist in Allen’s school experience here. No person was ever called “racist” or “ colonizer”. Separate standards did not exist. A pretty sad commentary now.
Is "y'all" the new "you people " phrase? The same phrase that if describing a minority group gets everyone's knickers in a knot, and rightfully so?
I didn't do anything to a N.A. person, so you're already showing that you're losing context, which never equates to a sound discussion. I wouldn't lump you into a "y'all" group because we'd be talking about you, which is what I'm doing.
And that you're going to learn me, or "y'all", about how "y'all" taught the Jamestown Corporation to be in business tells me how shallow your thinking, or perspective is. That point is incredibly obvious, and it has nothing to do with balanced representation, which is the point I will always drive, for clarity sake.
I'll add, to your statement below. What I've never heard anyone describe is what it actually looks like to equal the playing field as you call it. Care to elaborate and actually describe what this resolution looks like? Here's my experience, without calling "y'all" out, I haven't found anyone yet who has the stones to answer that question. I wonder why?
"If you want an equal playing field, maybe you need to acknowledge all the ways your ancestors stole land, water, etc"
It IS theirs. I had not read entire article. Not in quotes. So, they can do whatever they want with it. But if taxpayers have any part in funding it, then that is wrong. Donations from citizens, OK. But if the Democrats in high positions (Ozias, et al) fund with Fed money, county money, then we need to counter. They could charge people to go on this trail and the bridge. But they don't yet.
ABeetle, is it "their" fish? The possessive used is wrong in many statements that have been made about the Salmon. Is it "their" whales to hunt when we all have the right to enjoy these Magnificent creatures? Yes, the taxpayers are funding all of these possessions and that is the sticky point.
Funny how the tribe gets to wipe away a local landmark, part of the North Olympic Peninsula’s heritage, without a peep from anyone involved in preserving history. Not even “consultation” from the tribe.
The commissioners did not answer yesterday's questions about holding a town hall to discuss the Dungeness Recreation Area. Here is today's question:
Dear Commissioners,
People are concerned about how much influence a single major donor or powerful local interest may have in county decision-making — and about the way critics are sometimes brushed off. What are you doing, specifically, to make sure your communications with major private interests and tribal partners are transparent? Will the public be able to see who you’re meeting with, what’s being discussed, and how those conversations might affect land-use decisions or the county’s tax base?
All three commissioners can be reached by emailing the Clerk of the Board at loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov.
Bad Governance Modeled Response:
This response is fictional. The citations are real. The attitude is not.
Dear Constituent,
I understand concerns about transparency, but it’s important to recognize that not everyone is equipped to understand complex governance decisions. As an experienced commissioner, I rely on my instincts, relationships, and personal judgment to determine what information is relevant for public consumption.
Research shows that leaders routinely overestimate their own objectivity and believe they are less susceptible to bias than others—especially when they view themselves as principled, well-intentioned, or uniquely qualified (Bazerman & Moore, 2013). Formal accountability mechanisms can feel redundant when decision-makers already “know” they are acting in the public’s best interest (GAO, 2020).
Frankly, requiring every conversation with influential partners to be visible to the public creates unnecessary friction. Informal discussions are how things actually get done, even though courts have repeatedly warned that such practices undermine public trust and violate open-government principles (Cathcart v. Andersen, 1975).
While transparency laws exist, they are often treated as technical constraints rather than foundational safeguards, particularly when leaders believe their identity, values, or track record should be sufficient substitutes for formal process (OECD, 2020; MRSC, n.d.).
I appreciate public interest in these matters, though it’s important to recognize that not all aspects of governance are well-suited to public interpretation. My role, informed by experience and institutional knowledge, is to determine when transparency adds value—and when it distracts from effective leadership (Bazerman & Moore, 2013; OECD, 2020).
Sincerely,
Commissioner Who Knows Better
Clallam County Board of Commissioners
P.S. This response is empirically accurate as a description of how bad governance is justified.
References
Bazerman, M. H., & Moore, D. A. (2013). Judgment in managerial decision making (8th ed.). Wiley.
→ Documents overconfidence, moral licensing, and leaders’ belief that their intentions negate the need for oversight.
Cathcart v. Andersen, 85 Wn.2d 102 (1975).
→ Holds that informal, private discussions related to official business violate open-meeting principles.
Government Accountability Office. (2020). Standards for internal control in the federal government (GAO-20-540G). https://www.gao.gov
→ Identifies informal decision-making and undocumented influence as high-risk governance failures.
Municipal Research and Services Center. (n.d.). Open Public Meetings Act and governing body roles. https://mrsc.org
→ Warns against treating transparency as optional or subordinate to efficiency.
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. (2020). OECD principles of public governance. https://www.oecd.org
→ Finds that reliance on informal power and identity-based trust erodes legitimacy and accountability.
I love the Commissioner Who Knows Better." Great comment Dr. Sarah!
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time”- Maya Angelou
BREAKING NEWS!!! "these people were rabid"--Bruce Emery @timestamp ~5:40 — “CC Watchdog got ahold of this,” followed by describing commenters as “rabid.” https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/718/overview
holy mole! imagine if the folks on planning weren't there and don't bother to listen/view the comments. I listened to comments twice and heard something completely different. great catch
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I was responding to Marge’s quote by pointing to a moment on the public record that illustrates it. In the meeting (~5:40), Bruce Emery refers to CC Watchdog commenters as “rabid.” My comment was meant to connect “believe them the first time” to how public participants were characterized on the record.
Rabid" is an adjective describing someone with extreme, fanatical, or unreasonable devotion to a cause, belief, or fan base. It also refers to animals or humans infected with the rabies virus, often characterized by violent or frenzied behavior. Synonyms include fanatic, overzealous, and furious.
I didn't even comment and I am offended
Good Governance Proverb: Good governance keeps disputes anchored in authority, process, and accountability—because identity debates have no governing mechanism.
The JST and Jamestown Corporation are fortunate to have such a visionary leader. Tribal or sovereignty status today accomplishes nothing for JST ancestors. It does make those with sufficient blood quantum and whatever absurdity that might make that matter Paris Hiltons; progeny of the elite. Noted by Ron as pivotal was tribal success in seating Maria Cantwell over Slade Gorton. Cantwell a stereotypical Democrat that does not know any "minority" classification she does not favor. Ron has learned to play the political game well, but he plays it with a crown bestowed upon him by the politicians he panders to. A perfect candidate for a No Kings protest.
So true!
R Allen knows some people are easily brainwashed and then can be manipulated which can be very lucrative.
We had a guest from out of the area last month who interviewed with the tribe to work on the oyster farm. They shared that they were asked point blank in their interview what their political alignment was.
Now, think about alllll the folks who might apply for a job with the tribe and move to the peninsula. Talk about stacking the deck.
wow. That is discrimination! But of course, they are all Progressive Democrats.
Not subject to anti discrimination laws. 😉
It's not racial, it's not ethnic, it's when one group has an unfair advantage over another and when one group imposes an unfair financial burden on another. No one likes monopolies, no one likes unfairness.
Exceptional work connecting Allen's own words to current realities. The through-line from that 2003 interview to today's political landscape is striking - especially the explicit stratgey around younger demographics and media influence. Saw similar patterns play out in local governance disputes elsewhere, where accountability rhetoric and actual practice diverged once power was consolidated.
The connection to the youth is the reason for the Dungeness Wildlife refuge, eventual Clallam County parks, and the nature center. They're all designed to inculcate the youth into their way of thinking.
Unbelievable!
I want reparations for my heritage Irish forced work! Indentured servants in house work, mill work, mining etc.... so unfair that my ancestors are getting no reparations.
I am not shocked by the success that Ron Allen has achieved. No different than Bill Gates ,Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and others. They bend the rules to their advantage and step on toes to achieve their lofty positions. They have a common trait. They are all smart and rich because of it. Since Ron is not in jail for any crimes we have allowed him to get the power he has. You do not have to agree with him but he ain’t going away. So why do we not spend our energy on voting people that agree with us and at least rule some of CC that would offset some of the business decisions we CAN control. Our animosity towards the Tribe is not helping us towards getting them to cave into the tax inecuties that are lopsided. It only makes it worse. Deal with the Tribe in a manner of changing our leadership first. I know your responses will be negative and cruel but reflect on the solution not the past We can make a more equitable CC with our votes and change but it will take a lot of work to undo what we have allowed to happen
You are correct! We ARE finally trying. Jeff T really got us off the starting block with his CCW. Lots of people are discovering that many other folks feel the same way about our local, elected government not representing us. Not governing for the majority, the tax paying citizen. It's time for us to support Jake Seegers! He has graciously and steadfastly taken up the task of being a true representative of the people. Let's get on the track and drive him to the
winners circle. Break the Tribal hold!
Jake Seegers is a breath of fresh air.
Awww, thanks, Jennifer!
Thank you, Teresa. I appreciate your support(:
I 100% support Jake Ssegers for District 3 County Commissioner! That doesn't mean that I will submissively and passively let other leaders systematically purge my rights and freedoms. I will speak up when an issue is right or wrong. For far too long, too many good people have been bullied into silence and inaction.
I have been so happy to see Jake Seeger buttons worn "in the wild" this week. While it might not occur in situations appropriate for longer conversation I can at least say "like your button" or "that pin looks good on us" and smile.
I love that, Susie! Eric is the mastermind behind the buttons — and I keep seeing them popping up all around town. I am truly humbled by all of your support. Thank you, Eric, for the amazing idea and for all the hard work you’ve put into making it happen!
I gotta say that in reading some of your responses wrt the Jamestown Corporation/Ron Allen about "negative and cruel" responses hasn't played out yet, and I don't expect it will. What you have to say is reasonable.
I'm trying to draw the distinction because the "stink" that the CCWD gets for being anti Corporation/Tribe/Allen is in my opinion missing what's being discussed, on a regular basis. I almost think that it's a societal halo effect that shields any protected groups from negative conversations.
Your statement has been echoed by others that the CCWD is anti Tribe, but the distinction is hard for people to absorb. All that I've ever read is that a level playing field is what's desired. It's all that I expect. That's not wrong, and I think that's what you're realistically saying as well.
Find me someone who espouses getting rid of the tribe, treating their people less than anyone else and I'll stand with you and object. But that simply isn't going on.
Influence pedaling by interest groups that look for favorabt legislation for their businessess has been deemed bad for democracy. What the tribes, or any other interest group, and politicians are doing now is using taxpayer dollars to pay off donors, to stay elected. If that doesn't stink like low tide then I don't know what does. And that's happening right here in Clallam County. In that sense Ron Allen, via his Corporation, is no different than IBM influencing legislation for their own business. I object to any of these methods, he gets no pass because he's NA.
"societal halo effect that shields any protected group" is a good description of what prevents many constructive conversations in Clallam county
Well put MK.... I've read many times how Jeff has zero I'll will toward the Tribal community. It's totally different when they don't pay taxes on many different levels the rest of business and property owners in Clallam County must. It had to change and we all can coexist in a happy place. Well , I still hope the harm reduction program leaves here forever!
Have a great day!
Our energy is being focused on the Tribe when we can spend it on changing other things to get our County solvent. We waste so much of our tax dollars on things we can change. Until we get our books in order the Tribe is the least of our worries.i am for Jake to get that started
Go Jake Seegers!
You’re right and we are (finally).
Jen, the election laws and rules in this state. absolutely ensure the Democrats will rule forever. Our only hope is that mail in voting will be declared illegal. Until then, we are screwed.
So then Ron Allen is 3/4 white colonizer. Which brings up the possibility that his white colonizer ancestor, may have dominated or taken by force, maybe there was a free coupling, but, Shame on him for monetizing on that. He’s a colonizer like the rest of us white racists
Well, he's way more racist than 95% of us...
Learn from Ron Allen. Educate yourselves, GET INVOLVED, make your voices heard, put your hat in the ring, align with organizations that support the goals, dig in your pocket and GIVE $$’s to support the candidates and the goals, get involved! When you sit on the sidelines you lose. Ron Allen is a perfect example of what it takes to be successful. Ron doesn’t win by complaining & bitching, Ron Allen is winning because he is doing, he is out on the field, he is running the plays and scoring. Let’s get the train stopped & turned around & push Jake over the goal line, let’s fill the stands & slowly continue to take our cities & county back, just like Ron Allen did for his tribe.
Jake is where I'm putting my$...
Let's all get behind him or we're toast!
The Travesty And Tradgedy That Is The Boldt Decision, Part 2
The travesty continues. I recommend you read the decision yourself, not all at once, I don't. I take it in doses. It is bitter medicine. Worthless too and, for your benefit and, hopefully, future generations, I re-dip myself in it. If it seems I am a masochist, so be it. Just ponder what you are allowing to continue be done to you and your friends and loved ones.
After writing, "There is no indication that the Indians intended or understood the language "in common with all citizens of the Territory" to limit their right to fish in any way," he ignored many indications that were extremely obvious as listed in Part 1. Now, in Part 2, let's look at how his own words contradict him.
Regarding weirs (look up the definition) used to catch fish, "Control and use patterns of fishing gear varied according to the nature of the gear. Certain types required cooperative effort in their construction and/or handling. Weirs were classed as cooperative property but the component fishing stations on the weir were individually controlled." Could we replace "cooperative" with "common" and not change the meaning of the sentence? Was he avoiding a certain "c" word on purpose?
"At the time of the treaties Indian control over fishing practices was by customary
modes of conduct [**99] rather than by formal regulations. Controls were necessary in cooperative fishing efforts which required coordination by someone who organized and directed the group effort. The construction of a weir was usually a cooperative effort, a
number of men working under the direction of a leader. The entire community usually had access to the weir, the leader regulating the order of use and the times at which the weir was opened to allow upstream escapement for spawning and/or supply for up-river fishermen." Ooh! Customary, conduct, coopertive, coordination, community! That's a bunch of "c" words all implying working together in common! But Boldt is blind, right?
One more and then I'll let you go. "Catch and release," right? Well, I hope I have caught your attention.
"Documentation as to which Indians used specific fishing sites is incomplete. George Gibbs noted that: "As regards the fisheries, they are held in common, and no tribe pretends to claim
from another, or from individuals, seignorage for the right of taking. In fact, such a claim would be inconvenient to all parties, as the Indians move about, on the sound particularly, from one to another locality, according [**86] to the season."
Uh, “ , . . held in common, . . .” and Boldt just surges on past? Okay, who is George Gibb? Must be a Trumper, right?
Look him up. He was an expert familiar with the Indians culture and language. But here's the kicker, he was present at many of the treaty negotiations and his expertise was utilized. Slight omission, eh, Judge Boldt? (See Part 1).
Almost end of Part 2.
For fun, try to think up some things that would show, prove the Indians were well versed in the concept of "in common," even with all others.
End of Part 2.
I seem to remember Maria Cantwell bragging that she received no financial help with her campaign.
Treat Ron and the JKT as the cancer, the death cult they have become just like their sponsors the unAmerican Democratic Party death cult. Read the treaty. It doesn’t justify the false narratives.
And now the JKT is going to take away our historic Dungeness bridge so they can replace it with whatever, like they’re doing us a favor.
https://ptleader.com/articles/featured-stories/tribe-to-replace-iconic-railroad-truss-on-olympic-discovery-trail/
Maybe they are doing us a favor. It doesn't seem like the County wants to repair/save it; Maybe someone should start a go fund me for the bridge. The County can't even keep up with the repairs to major roads.
If you read the article, you’ll see the bridge is on “their” land and Clallam doesn’t get a voice in it. The tribal council is not even remotely interested in whatever the public has to say. Steel it is!
It seems to me that y'all are forgetting something important. Settlers taught Ron Allen how to use your colonial systems. The Jamestown tribe has learned to use your own systems, and you don't like the result. But they aren't doing anything y'all didn't do to them for hundreds of years. If you want an equal playing field, maybe you need to acknowledge all the ways your ancestors stole land, water, etc. If you want an example, look at Lake Farm Rd and Bagley Creek Rd N. History. That old settler drained the lake into the Straits just so he could farm hay. And now, the people who live there can't even water that land!
This is pretty hypocritical considering how much water has been pushed around under tribal initiation and oversight especially since the Bolt decisions. Heavy lobbying, effective PR, not to mention important political connections, has created a sad double standard and a lot of hypocrisy.
The fact that Jamestown was never a formal “ tribe” has been largely ignored. Allen et al owned their land. No “reservation” with discreet boundaries existed ( but now we have the random land acquisition of recent years…especially around water and Sequim). Historically, All individuals living here owned land they could sell, develop, or whatever. Allen initially became educated in the Sequim School District. Never was there any tribal association then. Allen, like every other student, was…just a student…never did we hear the word “Indian” at our school. Making jokes about being one quarter native and three quarters European causes no one to pause about hypocrisy? identity politics did not exist in Allen’s school experience here. No person was ever called “racist” or “ colonizer”. Separate standards did not exist. A pretty sad commentary now.
Is "y'all" the new "you people " phrase? The same phrase that if describing a minority group gets everyone's knickers in a knot, and rightfully so?
I didn't do anything to a N.A. person, so you're already showing that you're losing context, which never equates to a sound discussion. I wouldn't lump you into a "y'all" group because we'd be talking about you, which is what I'm doing.
And that you're going to learn me, or "y'all", about how "y'all" taught the Jamestown Corporation to be in business tells me how shallow your thinking, or perspective is. That point is incredibly obvious, and it has nothing to do with balanced representation, which is the point I will always drive, for clarity sake.
I'll add, to your statement below. What I've never heard anyone describe is what it actually looks like to equal the playing field as you call it. Care to elaborate and actually describe what this resolution looks like? Here's my experience, without calling "y'all" out, I haven't found anyone yet who has the stones to answer that question. I wonder why?
"If you want an equal playing field, maybe you need to acknowledge all the ways your ancestors stole land, water, etc"
It IS theirs. I had not read entire article. Not in quotes. So, they can do whatever they want with it. But if taxpayers have any part in funding it, then that is wrong. Donations from citizens, OK. But if the Democrats in high positions (Ozias, et al) fund with Fed money, county money, then we need to counter. They could charge people to go on this trail and the bridge. But they don't yet.
ABeetle, is it "their" fish? The possessive used is wrong in many statements that have been made about the Salmon. Is it "their" whales to hunt when we all have the right to enjoy these Magnificent creatures? Yes, the taxpayers are funding all of these possessions and that is the sticky point.
I wonder why ...and the fix is easy. Ron Allen will never cave as he will ride his racism to the end.
Funny how the tribe gets to wipe away a local landmark, part of the North Olympic Peninsula’s heritage, without a peep from anyone involved in preserving history. Not even “consultation” from the tribe.