Dr. Sarah those were very wise and philosophical words as usual. You seem to reflect a perception that penetrates the usual cheap veneer of political hypocrisy.
The commissioners didn't answer the email about what safeguards are in place so special interests aren't given preferential treatment to Recompete funds. Here is today's question.
Dear Commissioners,
Work sessions are typically not scheduled for public comment. What justification was used to allow comment at this work session, and will that be formalized as part of a broader outreach plan?
This is a modeled good governance response that clarifies the legal framework, current county practice, and governance limitations related to public participation during work sessions, and provides clear guidance on how residents can most effectively engage under existing procedures.
Dear Constituent,
Thank you for your questions. I want to address them together to provide clarity.
Board work sessions are generally structured for commissioner discussion, staff briefings, and information exchange rather than public testimony. Neither the Clallam County Code nor the County’s Administrative Policies establishes a standing policy authorizing or governing public comment during work sessions (Clallam County, n.d.-a; Clallam County, n.d.-b).
In the instance you referenced, limited comment was permitted at the Chair's discretion due to heightened public interest. Washington’s Open Public Meetings Act (OPMA) allows governing bodies to accept public comment but does not require public comment at any particular type of meeting, including work sessions (Washington State Legislature, 2024). This allowance did not constitute a policy change and should be understood as an exception rather than a standard practice.
At present, there are no adopted criteria or advance-notice requirements governing when such discretion may be exercised. As a result, residents should not assume that work sessions will routinely include opportunities for public comment.
Comments offered during a work session are reflected in the meeting minutes as part of the discussion record, but they do not carry the same procedural weight as testimony provided during a noticed public comment period or public hearing. Work-session remarks are considered informational and reviewed alongside staff briefings and commissioner discussions, rather than as formal testimony requiring findings or responses (Washington State Legislature, 2024).
The Board has not adopted a policy governing public participation during work sessions. Governance best practices caution that reliance on ad hoc discretion—while lawful—can create inconsistency and public uncertainty when not supported by adopted standards and clear documentation (MRSC, 2024; OECD, 2017; GAO, 2014).
Until such guidance is adopted, the most reliable ways for residents to ensure their input is consistently considered are to provide comment during regular meetings or public hearings noticed for that purpose, or to submit written correspondence for inclusion in the public record.
Municipal Research and Services Center. (2024). The Open Public Meetings Act: How it applies to Washington cities, counties, and special purpose districts.
For the record, I oppose naming our court house after a person. Clallam County Courthouse represents all citizens and should NOT be named after a person.
Renaming a public courthouse after a politically appointed or elected individual is beyond unacceptable. Clallam County Courthouse has existed for over 100 years and all of a sudden it needs to be renamed. Who says so? A couple of Commissioners and a few Indian groups. Here we go……divide divide divide. Division is not who we should be, division is what has been ushered in by the masters of division in order to control. The Civil War was fought because of division. That war was won and enslaved people were set free, not because of the dividers but because of people who believed in freedom & equality. Don’t forget slavery & control comes in many forms.
Sheldon McGuire don't forget though. We are "guests" on land that once reflected a stone age civilization. We should apologize for introducing electricity, modern medicine and the internet.
Regarding the Slip Point discussion and comments, can someone clarify.... county parks with lighthouses are a valuable public asset that should be preserved, protected and funded by the county, unless Ron wants it, in which case said park is a burden to the budget and should be given away. Do I have that correct?
Yes, "we" obviously need to check with these criminals within our government, before we form any opinions about OUR community and in fact world~! In other words, we need to become COMPLETELY subservient to these scumbags who have absolutely no intentions of tolerating our freedoms, rights, or free will~! I for one, will become even more free and with even more rights as time goes by, regardless of the insanity of these infernal clowns who are unfit to possess ANY public office~!!!
Fredrich Nietzsche would worship your determination. This board is filled with some very strong and admirable writers. "We cannot alter the wind but we can adjust the sails". I suspect that your message might be a description of a process called Evolution.
HA~! You may be onto something regarding Mr. Nietzsche's posthumous favor of my indomitable bumbling ways, but I am a simple minded, struggling to remain humble, man of fast reducing brain cells :) As for my "determination", well, I am afraid that you got me there~! We American Constitutionalists can be most irritating & bothersome sort that absolutely insist upon Americans freedoms and rights ALL OF THE TIME, with NO exceptions~! This greatly annnoys those who spend countless hours scheming against our freedoms and rights, desperate to find any weaknesses where they can "worm" their way into inserting "exceptions" to our freedoms and rights~! HA~! Nice try, but that will NEVER work as long as REAL American Constitutionalists are on duty... I remember years ago when the grotesquely wretched horrific card-carrying witch "The Hilderbeast" Clinton, responded to a question of Constitutionality spewed; "Oh, that old thing"~! Ha Ha Ha~! Well, while one would easily see her point had she been looking into a mirror, imagining her wearing a tall pointy black cap and riding a crooked broomstick, that specific comment absolutely enraged American Constitutionalists for the verbal atrocity that is truly was~! You can screw around with "Mother Nature" and possibly get away with it, but NEVER mess with an American Constitutionalist and American freedoms and rights~! Naughty naughty~! Say, has anyone seen the REAL Hillary Clinton recently? Not just that weak look alike "stand in" that has been playing the role of the wicked witch~? HA~! I realize that few Americans have any working skills of "facial recognition" science, especially since most actually believe that the real Joe Biden was the so-called "president" for those horrific 4 years, but REALLY? The actor playing Hillary at Joe Blow's "supposed" inauguration was a good 4 to 6 inches too short and "she" looked 20 years younger than she did in 2016 when President Trump wiped the floors with her~! After all, plastic surgery can only go so far~! Ha~! Anyway, I am feeling "extra spunky" today, but not for reasons that one may assume... You see Steve O, for well over 50 years I have been tortured by this "creeping socialism" assault upon Americans and humanity, only to have (finally) learned that ALL of my efforts to have been proven to have been foolish all along, because unfortunately "experiencing pain & suffering" really is the only way that folks will wake up to take control of their lives. My bad, because I had long foolishly assumed that "we" as a country would do the right thing BEFORE too much pain and suffering took place. Oooops! Well, hang in there my friend, because unfortunately there is a seriously bumpy road ahead and in that I am oddly finding reason to be joyous, not because of the pain and suffering itself, but what is will do to awaken the sleeping sheep to the fact that THEY need to stand up against the terrible evil that we are all facing~! So, be of Goodly cheer and keep up the great work~!
Susie, I really cheered you on hearing your public comment from last night's PACC meeting. Your personal encounters with the crime in PA must carry affect the Council and its future decisions. Be safe and keep speaking up!
LOL the tenor is certainly correct but the appellation might be changed to Chief Ron. In my opinion "rights" are conferred by political power and the latest fashion. You might possess the right in theory but how would you enforce it?
I meant "right" as in correct, not in refence to a moral or legal entitlement. Not being one of his subjects nor using his facilities, I don't feel I have any obligation to refer to him as "Chief."
LOL This is an off topic subject but when I moved her 16 years ago I thought that I had entered a Kafka novel. "The Tribe" was a frequent source of conversation on all lips. I felt the compulsion to genuflect when it was mentioned in a conversation.
oin us for Coffee with Colleen this Wednesday, February 4th at 8 AM to hear a presentation from Bruce Emery, Director of Community Development at Clallam County.
"Rabid" is the perfect word. The word reduces a political enemy into a lower form of mammal such as a bat or racoon. This is probably the first stage of dissociation IMO.
I couldn't keep Karen away yesterday. The boofing kit and all it is , was just too much to bear. Those deaf ears will go away...we the people must be heard and they refuse to listen! As you said it can only end badly on this course. We can all do this together. It would be nice if we could have done so with existing power in the seats. They aren't leaders , they're shameful and shameless.
Thanks for another story that must be addressed. They better listen before they act on this.
Your presence and Karen's public comment touched everyone. As Jeff stated, giving public comment is hard and sharing your personal story should bear more weight towards shifting the Comms direction on Harm Reduction. They might squirm with the truth, but we appreciate your courage.
As you so accurately wrote today, Jeff, courthouses are for everyone in the county. No one specific name needs to replace what has been long standing for over 100 years. I can't help but think that the new Heritage Advisory Board may be involved. Too many timed coincidences. Maybe even French's re-election favors?Your article brings a clear assessment of another impending debacle. It doesn't surprise me though - CC knows to only expect disappointment from our leaders.
Correct up until the last sentance. Why drop down in servitude and grant the royal high Kafka esk station by the affirmation "Our leaders"? Why raise an appointee or at best an elected administrative official to false import ? Many who tend to be followers will then take this to be true. I'm just askin.
They were elected to lead our County. That I use "leaders" signals that those we elected are the heads of a body of government. The majority of voters elected them to fulfill a duty on behalf of the citizens of Clallam County. Whether we like it or not, they are in a leadership position.
They were "elected" to serve our county. Listen to the voters (the real and actual ones) and serve accordingly. They do lead those further down the pecking order in county government - I don't believe that they are meant to shape our lives or futures or bundle of rights. If I am wrong please let me know - and tell me what I am getting wrong. BTW the canvasers work was cast aside after a great deal of effort and investigation of the 2020 election. Why would that be ?
You are correct using "serve", and my use of lead/leaders is also correct. You and I use different diction to explain our views. It's called a conversation, and I enjoyed ours, Private Man.
Came here to say the same. It will cost thousands...and then they'll cry that the coffer is in deficit (again) and have some other bullshit "fee" to add on to our property tax.
Obviously, the Clallam County clown show has more than enough of OUR money to be able to spend it SO recklessly and on such an insignificant purpose that does no one any good~!
How does it happen that “proposals” made by the Board of Commissioners are actually proposals the citizens can’t refuse?
THE BIG QUESTIONS: What powers are behind the Commissioners that they have become so embolden to break rules/change rules, ignore protocols, lie, deceive, ignore and negate the “check and balance” system that the Charter Review Commission was set up for?
It’s because THEY CAN. Now it is time for the tax payers to tell them NO YOU CAN’T! It’s in our court now. We don't need to change names, we need to change people.
What’s wrong with those park benches made out of recycled milk jugs. That says” she’s here to last, no maintenance required”. Been here 16 years and her name rings no bells.
The real reason that this creepy Susan Owens is not well known for her disastrous horrific deeds, is that she was "inserted" into our community without any public vote or fanfare, so that she could more easily destroy our community from behind the curtain of these scumbags who are Hell bent upon subverting our community and country~! ONLY now that she has done her dirty work, do these criminals want to fully disclose her name and (disastrous) impact upon our community, as if she was some sort of "Saint"~! HA! BS~! One only needs to understand that the disgraced Gary Locke and the evil Washington State criminal cabal were behind the "insertion" of Susan Owens into our community, to be able to see the link of criminals within our state~! Have a great day!
Does Susan Owens condone illegal aliens, protecting murderers, rapists and criminals, sanctuary cities, releasing repeat offenders back on the streets, harm reduction, police reduction, protecting child predators, removal of ICE, property tax hikes the list goes on? If Ozias & French are pushing her then of course she does…..
I can't speak for the failed & disgraced Susan Owens, because she was a different level of failure (subversive) at a different time in history, with different levels of destruction (agenda) on her plate, and I believe that she is dead now... It would, however, be completely reasonable to expect that she would have been COMPLETELY on board with these terrible things that you have mentioned, because she was in fact one of the evil players of this same criminal cabal of scum and villainy~! As an American Constitutionalist I can't/won't blame anyone for anything that they were not involved in, however "we" (Americans) do need to understand that there have been, and still are, those who are Hell bent upon destroying America so that they and their heirs can become the dictators of tomorrow. These scumbags know that they won't live "forever" but it is a very serious mistake to ignore the fact that they do in fact very Intentionally groom the next criminal clowns who they put in place to continue their dastardly plans!!! It is very clear that the destructive agenda of these criminals has in fact been underway for a great many decades, so there is no question involving their old and well-organized evil intentions... The criminals in our government today are just trying to "thrust" credibility retroactively onto their evil agenda, in the desperate hope that few if any folks here will remember Susan Owens for the destructive force that she really was~! In their sick minds, this is their way to "declare the truth" long after their countless lies and deceptions have disappeared from the general public's memory... They want the Ignorant sheep to just accept their evil criminal agenda completely, without them even for a second thinking about what they are REALLY accepting! It is their Satanic ways of doing things, that would be completely invisible to most because they are too busy being distracted by the Bullshit machine~! Stay safe and keep up the great work~! Sincerely, Mike
Some of us need to make more noise about actions that break laws and rules. Our power is at the ballot box. Elections make the difference. The word NO is reasonable.
Sorry, I mean that it seemed to me that those who wanted the memorial (Karen Unger, Rod Fleck, tribal leaders) had been talking to the commissioners before the meeting. I don't know that two of the commissioners talked about it beforehand.
Everyone has some bias. Some lean liberal, some conservative. Clallam County Court House indicates everyone should get a fair shot, whether true or not .Let us leave the name as it is. Just one more thing to muddy the waters and obscure much more important issues facing the citizens. No other Washington State county has ever been named after a judge of any level.
The courthouse belongs to we the people. Naming it after a person, no matter how “justified” it may be, is as inappropriate as naming the White House the Donald J. Trump White House. Buildings of branches of government should be as blind to persons as Lady Justice.
This issue of renaming the Clallam County Courthouse, and any of the other myriad issues raised by our County Commissioners and government, creating problems where none previously existed, fall into the same category. If one wants to be heard, first, one must be recognozed by "The Chair" and have the attention of the audience; but who's audience, your's, or the opposition's? If one reflects on how our Republic was established, one will find that substantial physical effort, coupled with detailed, organized plans, and sustained action were essential by the Founders. As we witness daily, actions speak louder than words, being the ultimate commitment.
Good Governance Daily Proverb:
When public participation depends on discretion rather than adopted policy, transparency becomes inconsistent, and trust becomes conditional.
Dr. Sarah those were very wise and philosophical words as usual. You seem to reflect a perception that penetrates the usual cheap veneer of political hypocrisy.
The commissioners didn't answer the email about what safeguards are in place so special interests aren't given preferential treatment to Recompete funds. Here is today's question.
Dear Commissioners,
Work sessions are typically not scheduled for public comment. What justification was used to allow comment at this work session, and will that be formalized as part of a broader outreach plan?
This is a modeled good governance response that clarifies the legal framework, current county practice, and governance limitations related to public participation during work sessions, and provides clear guidance on how residents can most effectively engage under existing procedures.
Dear Constituent,
Thank you for your questions. I want to address them together to provide clarity.
Board work sessions are generally structured for commissioner discussion, staff briefings, and information exchange rather than public testimony. Neither the Clallam County Code nor the County’s Administrative Policies establishes a standing policy authorizing or governing public comment during work sessions (Clallam County, n.d.-a; Clallam County, n.d.-b).
In the instance you referenced, limited comment was permitted at the Chair's discretion due to heightened public interest. Washington’s Open Public Meetings Act (OPMA) allows governing bodies to accept public comment but does not require public comment at any particular type of meeting, including work sessions (Washington State Legislature, 2024). This allowance did not constitute a policy change and should be understood as an exception rather than a standard practice.
At present, there are no adopted criteria or advance-notice requirements governing when such discretion may be exercised. As a result, residents should not assume that work sessions will routinely include opportunities for public comment.
Comments offered during a work session are reflected in the meeting minutes as part of the discussion record, but they do not carry the same procedural weight as testimony provided during a noticed public comment period or public hearing. Work-session remarks are considered informational and reviewed alongside staff briefings and commissioner discussions, rather than as formal testimony requiring findings or responses (Washington State Legislature, 2024).
The Board has not adopted a policy governing public participation during work sessions. Governance best practices caution that reliance on ad hoc discretion—while lawful—can create inconsistency and public uncertainty when not supported by adopted standards and clear documentation (MRSC, 2024; OECD, 2017; GAO, 2014).
Until such guidance is adopted, the most reliable ways for residents to ensure their input is consistently considered are to provide comment during regular meetings or public hearings noticed for that purpose, or to submit written correspondence for inclusion in the public record.
Respectfully,
Commissioner
Clallam County Board of Commissioners
References
Clallam County. (n.d.-a). Clallam County Code. https://clallam.county.codes/
Clallam County. (n.d.-b). County administrative policies. https://www.clallamcountywa.gov/207/County-Administrative-Policies
Municipal Research and Services Center. (2024). The Open Public Meetings Act: How it applies to Washington cities, counties, and special purpose districts.
https://mrsc.org/explore-topics/legal/open-government/open-public-meetings-act
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. (2017). Trust and public integrity: Policies for trustworthy governance. OECD Publishing.
https://doi.org/10.1787/9789264268920-en
U.S. Government Accountability Office. (2014). Standards for internal control in the federal government (GAO-14-704G).
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-14-704g
Washington State Legislature. (2024). Open Public Meetings Act, RCW 42.30.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=42.30
For the record, I oppose naming our court house after a person. Clallam County Courthouse represents all citizens and should NOT be named after a person.
You nailed it. The moment it is renamed it will take on a political flavor, it's unavoidable and improper. It ceases to be neutral as intended.
Do you mean like “Ron Allen County Court House”. If it isn’t tribal, it won’t happen.
The court house is already properly named.
CLALLAM COUNTY COURTHOUSE
It exists for ALL the residents of our county.
Three temporary commissioners should not decide to change the name.
Maybe a PLAQUE on the courtroom door. or a PROCLAMATION?
Playing favorites is division, period!
We pay them $118,000 + benefits to do this each year….just a reminder we are not getting what we are paying for!
We should hire migrants to perform those duties. They would accomplish the same task for a minimum wage.
Renaming a public courthouse after a politically appointed or elected individual is beyond unacceptable. Clallam County Courthouse has existed for over 100 years and all of a sudden it needs to be renamed. Who says so? A couple of Commissioners and a few Indian groups. Here we go……divide divide divide. Division is not who we should be, division is what has been ushered in by the masters of division in order to control. The Civil War was fought because of division. That war was won and enslaved people were set free, not because of the dividers but because of people who believed in freedom & equality. Don’t forget slavery & control comes in many forms.
Sheldon McGuire don't forget though. We are "guests" on land that once reflected a stone age civilization. We should apologize for introducing electricity, modern medicine and the internet.
Regarding the Slip Point discussion and comments, can someone clarify.... county parks with lighthouses are a valuable public asset that should be preserved, protected and funded by the county, unless Ron wants it, in which case said park is a burden to the budget and should be given away. Do I have that correct?
Great comment Patriot Susie Blake~!
Yes, "we" obviously need to check with these criminals within our government, before we form any opinions about OUR community and in fact world~! In other words, we need to become COMPLETELY subservient to these scumbags who have absolutely no intentions of tolerating our freedoms, rights, or free will~! I for one, will become even more free and with even more rights as time goes by, regardless of the insanity of these infernal clowns who are unfit to possess ANY public office~!!!
Sincerely, Mike
Fredrich Nietzsche would worship your determination. This board is filled with some very strong and admirable writers. "We cannot alter the wind but we can adjust the sails". I suspect that your message might be a description of a process called Evolution.
Good morning, Patriot Steve O~!
HA~! You may be onto something regarding Mr. Nietzsche's posthumous favor of my indomitable bumbling ways, but I am a simple minded, struggling to remain humble, man of fast reducing brain cells :) As for my "determination", well, I am afraid that you got me there~! We American Constitutionalists can be most irritating & bothersome sort that absolutely insist upon Americans freedoms and rights ALL OF THE TIME, with NO exceptions~! This greatly annnoys those who spend countless hours scheming against our freedoms and rights, desperate to find any weaknesses where they can "worm" their way into inserting "exceptions" to our freedoms and rights~! HA~! Nice try, but that will NEVER work as long as REAL American Constitutionalists are on duty... I remember years ago when the grotesquely wretched horrific card-carrying witch "The Hilderbeast" Clinton, responded to a question of Constitutionality spewed; "Oh, that old thing"~! Ha Ha Ha~! Well, while one would easily see her point had she been looking into a mirror, imagining her wearing a tall pointy black cap and riding a crooked broomstick, that specific comment absolutely enraged American Constitutionalists for the verbal atrocity that is truly was~! You can screw around with "Mother Nature" and possibly get away with it, but NEVER mess with an American Constitutionalist and American freedoms and rights~! Naughty naughty~! Say, has anyone seen the REAL Hillary Clinton recently? Not just that weak look alike "stand in" that has been playing the role of the wicked witch~? HA~! I realize that few Americans have any working skills of "facial recognition" science, especially since most actually believe that the real Joe Biden was the so-called "president" for those horrific 4 years, but REALLY? The actor playing Hillary at Joe Blow's "supposed" inauguration was a good 4 to 6 inches too short and "she" looked 20 years younger than she did in 2016 when President Trump wiped the floors with her~! After all, plastic surgery can only go so far~! Ha~! Anyway, I am feeling "extra spunky" today, but not for reasons that one may assume... You see Steve O, for well over 50 years I have been tortured by this "creeping socialism" assault upon Americans and humanity, only to have (finally) learned that ALL of my efforts to have been proven to have been foolish all along, because unfortunately "experiencing pain & suffering" really is the only way that folks will wake up to take control of their lives. My bad, because I had long foolishly assumed that "we" as a country would do the right thing BEFORE too much pain and suffering took place. Oooops! Well, hang in there my friend, because unfortunately there is a seriously bumpy road ahead and in that I am oddly finding reason to be joyous, not because of the pain and suffering itself, but what is will do to awaken the sleeping sheep to the fact that THEY need to stand up against the terrible evil that we are all facing~! So, be of Goodly cheer and keep up the great work~!
Sincerely, Mike
Susie, I really cheered you on hearing your public comment from last night's PACC meeting. Your personal encounters with the crime in PA must carry affect the Council and its future decisions. Be safe and keep speaking up!
Hey Denise Lapio will the rampant crime in Port Angeles increase property values in Sequim? I am asking for a friend.
Unlikely with the way things are going in Sequim.
Yep, you have it right.
LOL the tenor is certainly correct but the appellation might be changed to Chief Ron. In my opinion "rights" are conferred by political power and the latest fashion. You might possess the right in theory but how would you enforce it?
I meant "right" as in correct, not in refence to a moral or legal entitlement. Not being one of his subjects nor using his facilities, I don't feel I have any obligation to refer to him as "Chief."
LOL This is an off topic subject but when I moved her 16 years ago I thought that I had entered a Kafka novel. "The Tribe" was a frequent source of conversation on all lips. I felt the compulsion to genuflect when it was mentioned in a conversation.
"Wholly" correct.
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Happening now, and the public WILL be muted if they are "rabid"!
Here is the link to the video: https://youtu.be/uGh5NfmZKEs?si=fox4g8Ept1vtdB7I
"Rabid" is the perfect word. The word reduces a political enemy into a lower form of mammal such as a bat or racoon. This is probably the first stage of dissociation IMO.
Good morning Jeff,
I couldn't keep Karen away yesterday. The boofing kit and all it is , was just too much to bear. Those deaf ears will go away...we the people must be heard and they refuse to listen! As you said it can only end badly on this course. We can all do this together. It would be nice if we could have done so with existing power in the seats. They aren't leaders , they're shameful and shameless.
Thanks for another story that must be addressed. They better listen before they act on this.
Have a great day all...
Your presence and Karen's public comment touched everyone. As Jeff stated, giving public comment is hard and sharing your personal story should bear more weight towards shifting the Comms direction on Harm Reduction. They might squirm with the truth, but we appreciate your courage.
Thanks Denise,
Now you know why I fight their Harm reduction and you don't have half my story❤️
I'm so sorry you and your family have been going thru so much pain. Blessings.
I think that we should ignore the smaller battles. They are often subterfuges designed to divert attention away from larger sins.
As you so accurately wrote today, Jeff, courthouses are for everyone in the county. No one specific name needs to replace what has been long standing for over 100 years. I can't help but think that the new Heritage Advisory Board may be involved. Too many timed coincidences. Maybe even French's re-election favors?Your article brings a clear assessment of another impending debacle. It doesn't surprise me though - CC knows to only expect disappointment from our leaders.
“Any color the customer wants, as long as it’s black.” Henry Ford
Good one Patriot Jennifer~!
Sincerely, Mike
Correct up until the last sentance. Why drop down in servitude and grant the royal high Kafka esk station by the affirmation "Our leaders"? Why raise an appointee or at best an elected administrative official to false import ? Many who tend to be followers will then take this to be true. I'm just askin.
They were elected to lead our County. That I use "leaders" signals that those we elected are the heads of a body of government. The majority of voters elected them to fulfill a duty on behalf of the citizens of Clallam County. Whether we like it or not, they are in a leadership position.
They were "elected" to serve our county. Listen to the voters (the real and actual ones) and serve accordingly. They do lead those further down the pecking order in county government - I don't believe that they are meant to shape our lives or futures or bundle of rights. If I am wrong please let me know - and tell me what I am getting wrong. BTW the canvasers work was cast aside after a great deal of effort and investigation of the 2020 election. Why would that be ?
Being elected has become a "mandate" versus service. It's all unsightly.
Agreed As far as elections go keep an eye on your fries.
You are correct using "serve", and my use of lead/leaders is also correct. You and I use different diction to explain our views. It's called a conversation, and I enjoyed ours, Private Man.
And the cost to change the name will reverbiate throughout Our Clallam County.
Came here to say the same. It will cost thousands...and then they'll cry that the coffer is in deficit (again) and have some other bullshit "fee" to add on to our property tax.
Obviously, the Clallam County clown show has more than enough of OUR money to be able to spend it SO recklessly and on such an insignificant purpose that does no one any good~!
Good comment~!
Sincerely, Mike
The term "clown show" is accurate but our leaders are not funny.
Why don't cannibals eat clowns? Because they taste funny.
Not just in dollars and centavos
IT’S ALL IN “THEIR” COURT. NOT THE CITIZENS COURT
How does it happen that “proposals” made by the Board of Commissioners are actually proposals the citizens can’t refuse?
THE BIG QUESTIONS: What powers are behind the Commissioners that they have become so embolden to break rules/change rules, ignore protocols, lie, deceive, ignore and negate the “check and balance” system that the Charter Review Commission was set up for?
It’s because THEY CAN. Now it is time for the tax payers to tell them NO YOU CAN’T! It’s in our court now. We don't need to change names, we need to change people.
What’s wrong with those park benches made out of recycled milk jugs. That says” she’s here to last, no maintenance required”. Been here 16 years and her name rings no bells.
Let’s name it after the state tree, fossil, rock,
Animal or abundant shore living animals.
Geoduck is make vote!
HA! HA!
Great comment Patriot Susan C. Bonallo~!
The real reason that this creepy Susan Owens is not well known for her disastrous horrific deeds, is that she was "inserted" into our community without any public vote or fanfare, so that she could more easily destroy our community from behind the curtain of these scumbags who are Hell bent upon subverting our community and country~! ONLY now that she has done her dirty work, do these criminals want to fully disclose her name and (disastrous) impact upon our community, as if she was some sort of "Saint"~! HA! BS~! One only needs to understand that the disgraced Gary Locke and the evil Washington State criminal cabal were behind the "insertion" of Susan Owens into our community, to be able to see the link of criminals within our state~! Have a great day!
Sincerely, Mike
Does Susan Owens condone illegal aliens, protecting murderers, rapists and criminals, sanctuary cities, releasing repeat offenders back on the streets, harm reduction, police reduction, protecting child predators, removal of ICE, property tax hikes the list goes on? If Ozias & French are pushing her then of course she does…..
I think she was part of overturning the death penalty in WA because it was "racist."
Hello, Patriot 4 reasonable development~!
I can't speak for the failed & disgraced Susan Owens, because she was a different level of failure (subversive) at a different time in history, with different levels of destruction (agenda) on her plate, and I believe that she is dead now... It would, however, be completely reasonable to expect that she would have been COMPLETELY on board with these terrible things that you have mentioned, because she was in fact one of the evil players of this same criminal cabal of scum and villainy~! As an American Constitutionalist I can't/won't blame anyone for anything that they were not involved in, however "we" (Americans) do need to understand that there have been, and still are, those who are Hell bent upon destroying America so that they and their heirs can become the dictators of tomorrow. These scumbags know that they won't live "forever" but it is a very serious mistake to ignore the fact that they do in fact very Intentionally groom the next criminal clowns who they put in place to continue their dastardly plans!!! It is very clear that the destructive agenda of these criminals has in fact been underway for a great many decades, so there is no question involving their old and well-organized evil intentions... The criminals in our government today are just trying to "thrust" credibility retroactively onto their evil agenda, in the desperate hope that few if any folks here will remember Susan Owens for the destructive force that she really was~! In their sick minds, this is their way to "declare the truth" long after their countless lies and deceptions have disappeared from the general public's memory... They want the Ignorant sheep to just accept their evil criminal agenda completely, without them even for a second thinking about what they are REALLY accepting! It is their Satanic ways of doing things, that would be completely invisible to most because they are too busy being distracted by the Bullshit machine~! Stay safe and keep up the great work~! Sincerely, Mike
Susan, To the Commissioners, Confucius Says, : “When people don’t communicate well they say weird shit” ; )
Some of us need to make more noise about actions that break laws and rules. Our power is at the ballot box. Elections make the difference. The word NO is reasonable.
Absolutely correct Patriot Jennifer~!
Out with the trash~!
Sincerely, Mike
How does a new agenda item get such quick concurrence without there being some prior discussion amongst these three?
It became obvious to me that this had been discussed beforehand and the work session was just a formality.
Doesn't that violate the OPMA?
Sorry, I mean that it seemed to me that those who wanted the memorial (Karen Unger, Rod Fleck, tribal leaders) had been talking to the commissioners before the meeting. I don't know that two of the commissioners talked about it beforehand.
Maybe a headstone on the courthouse lawn would suffice?
Rod Fleck? Good lord he sure had some less than stellar moments on the CRC.
MK, they doth thinketh we are stupid. Methinks.
Nothing new or we find out about it through a FOIA, this is how they roll….so transparent, so communicative.
Everyone has some bias. Some lean liberal, some conservative. Clallam County Court House indicates everyone should get a fair shot, whether true or not .Let us leave the name as it is. Just one more thing to muddy the waters and obscure much more important issues facing the citizens. No other Washington State county has ever been named after a judge of any level.
If that is true then that says a lot. We’ve got the real idiots here running the show & they are failures and our county reflects it.
Relying on chatGPT.
Let’s name it after Jake. It makes more sense than her!
The courthouse belongs to we the people. Naming it after a person, no matter how “justified” it may be, is as inappropriate as naming the White House the Donald J. Trump White House. Buildings of branches of government should be as blind to persons as Lady Justice.
These Judges that just protect governments like Susan Owens, have not earned to honor to have a public building named after them.
Put up a sign at one of the encampments recognizing the judge who's decisions have enabled them?
Love it!
You could alternate between judges and commissioners
Best idea I’ve heard, in I can’t remember when…..this is a perfect idea. People will know they are in the right spot and this is their place to be.
My question is "Why Now?"
AND Why at all??????
hehe, 2nd question... :) What are these knitwits doing anyway?
ABeetle, playing us like an untuned piano.
This issue of renaming the Clallam County Courthouse, and any of the other myriad issues raised by our County Commissioners and government, creating problems where none previously existed, fall into the same category. If one wants to be heard, first, one must be recognozed by "The Chair" and have the attention of the audience; but who's audience, your's, or the opposition's? If one reflects on how our Republic was established, one will find that substantial physical effort, coupled with detailed, organized plans, and sustained action were essential by the Founders. As we witness daily, actions speak louder than words, being the ultimate commitment.