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Jeff Tozzer's avatar

The commissioners did not respond yesterday to a question asking whether proclamations that classify constituents as either “colonizers” or “indigenous people” contribute to racial division. Here is today's email:

Dear Commissioners,

When it takes months of testimony, media attention, and public organizing for the county to respond to issues already covered by code, does the Board see that as a success of citizen engagement—or as a failure of governance?

Robert James's avatar

They sure are consistent in their ignoring us...I hope they enjoy the storm they are brewing!😎

Dr. Sarah's avatar

Below is a good-governance model response that distinguishes citizen engagement from institutional performance and explains how a performance-based approach can protect public safety while preserving property rights.

Dear Constituents,

Citizen engagement is a success when it improves policy choices and helps the County set priorities. However, when it takes months of testimony and sustained media attention to prompt action on issues that are already enforceable under existing authority, that is also a signal of a governance and management breakdown—not something we should normalize as the “only” way the system works.

Clallam County already has a formal Code Enforcement Program housed in the Department of Community Development, intended to protect health, safety, and livability through compliance (Clallam County, n.d.-a). The County has also formally acknowledged that enforcement is inherently multi-departmental through an interdepartmental Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) involving the Board of County Commissioners, the Department of Community Development, the Sheriff’s Office, the Health & Human Services/Health Officer, and the Prosecuting Attorney (Clallam County, 2023). This structure exists because many real-world cases are not “just zoning”; they often involve sanitation, building and fire safety, environmental impacts, and legal enforcement pathways operating simultaneously.

At the state level, several responsibilities that routinely arise in these disputes are not discretionary:

1. The Growth Management Act requires counties to adopt and enforce development regulations consistent with the comprehensive plan and to protect critical areas (Revised Code of Washington [RCW], n.d.-a).

2. The State Building Code Act establishes minimum statewide building and fire life-safety standards that local governments must implement (RCW, n.d.-b).

3. Local public health authority, including environmental health functions related to sanitation and public health hazards, is defined in state law (RCW, n.d.-c).

Together, these statutes establish a minimum regulatory floor: counties must protect shared systems—water quality, fire and life safety, and environmental integrity—while otherwise preserving private property rights.

The issue emerging in Clallam County is not that these minimum protections are absent. It is that zoning is increasingly being used to regulate beyond them, even where other code titles already address the underlying risks.

Clallam County Code itself reflects this functional separation:

1. Public health and sanitation are governed through environmental health and utility provisions (e.g., CCC Title 13), addressing wastewater disposal, potable water, and sanitation conditions.

2.Building and fire life-safety are governed through adopted state building and fire codes (implemented through CCC Title 11 and related chapters), regulating structural integrity and fire risk based on conditions rather than land-use labels.

3. Environmental protection, including critical areas, is addressed through CCC Title 13 and related provisions implementing mandatory Growth Management Act requirements.

These titles already provide enforceable authority to manage the risks the state requires counties to address.

Overreach occurs when Title 33 (Zoning) is used to re-regulate those same risks indirectly—by expanding use-based prohibitions, adding residency-duration limits, or multiplying housing-type definitions—rather than enforcing the applicable health, building, or environmental standards already in place.

In practical terms, this shifts the County from regulating conditions and risk to regulating people and housing form, even when the underlying concern is sanitation, fire access, or environmental impact. That approach is inconsistent with the core land-use purpose of zoning under the Growth Management Act and is not required by state law.

A parcel with compliant wastewater disposal, safe access, and no critical-area impacts presents the same public risk regardless of whether the occupant lives in a house, an RV, or another lawful structure. When zoning restrictions are imposed instead of enforcing condition-based standards, the County exceeds the minimum regulatory floor and produces unequal outcomes for similarly situated properties.

This is not a failure of law; it is a governance choice. The County’s own administrative policies anticipate the need to identify and correct code conflicts, redundancies, and misalignment (Clallam County, 2019). When residents are repeatedly forced to “organize to trigger action,” the problem is less about missing authority and more about how enforcement is routed, coordinated, and managed.

This is where a performance-based approach provides a clearer path forward.

A performance-based framework focuses enforcement on whether objective safety and environmental standards are met, rather than on categorizing or prohibiting specific dwelling types. In practice, this means holding all properties—regardless of housing form—to the same requirements for sanitation, fire safety, environmental protection, and access, using the code titles already designed for those purposes.

Best-practice public administration supports this shift. Clearly defined standard operating procedures improve consistency and communication in code enforcement (International Code Council, 2020), while coordinated, cross-department enforcement reduces reliance on broad, blunt regulatory tools (International City/County Management Association, 2003). Federal performance-management frameworks likewise emphasize transparency and measurable outcomes so accountability does not depend on prolonged public escalation (U.S. Government Accountability Office, n.d.).

To answer the question directly: sustained citizen engagement is vital. But when months of public pressure are required to activate existing authority, that is evidence of a governance failure that should be corrected—not codified.

Accordingly, I believe the Board should:

1. Direct staff to publish a clear multi-title enforcement routing protocol, clarifying lead responsibility for health, building/fire, critical areas, and zoning matters, consistent with the existing interdepartmental MOU (Clallam County, 2023).

2. Require regular public reporting on enforcement timeliness and outcomes so accountability is routine rather than crisis-driven (U.S. Government Accountability Office, n.d.).

3. Pursue a targeted code alignment and cleanup plan, using the County’s established ordinance-revision process to ensure zoning remains focused on land use, while safety enforcement remains condition-based (Clallam County, 2019).

Respectfully,

Commissioner

Clallam County Board of Commissioners

References

Clallam County. (n.d.-a). Code enforcement. https://www.clallamcountywa.gov/179/Code-Enforcement

Clallam County. (n.d.-b). County administrative policies. https://www.clallamcountywa.gov/207/County-Administrative-Policies

Clallam County. (2019). Policy & procedure 110: Creating and amending ordinances. https://www.clallamcountywa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/3180/Creating-and-Amending-Ordinances-PDF

Clallam County. (2023). Memorandum of understanding among the Board of Clallam County Commissioners, Department of Community Development, Sheriff’s Office, Health & Human Services/Health Officer, and Prosecuting Attorney regarding the Clallam County Code Enforcement Program (April 18, 2023). https://www.clallamcountywa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/26322/Memorandum-of-Understanding-with-Clallam-County-Departments-for-code-enforcement-April-18-2023-PDF

International City/County Management Association. (2003). Breaking down departmental barriers. https://icma.org/sites/default/files/20078_10312043.pdf

International Code Council. (2020, November 30). Standard operating procedures for code enforcement. https://www.iccsafe.org/building-safety-journal/bsj-hits/standard-operating-procedures-for-code-enforcement/

Revised Code of Washington. (n.d.-a). Growth Management Act—Planning under the GMA (RCW 36.70A). https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=36.70A

Revised Code of Washington. (n.d.-b). State Building Code Act (RCW 19.27). https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=19.27

Revised Code of Washington. (n.d.-c). Local health departments—Powers and duties (RCW 70.05). https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=70.05

U.S. Government Accountability Office. (n.d.). Managing for results: Government performance frameworks and leading practices. https://www.gao.gov/managing-results-government

Robert James's avatar

I looked up the Latin...several phrases for the behavior but I liked this one the best.

Silentium Servavit...Silence Kept!

If you don't know what you're doing...keep silent...reptiles are usually very silent and patient.

They wait...and pounce...or slip silently around until they get a superior position for ambush.

Reptoids amongst us!😎 🐍🤓

Dr. Sarah's avatar

One simple transparency fix residents may want to request: post Hearing Examiner hearings on the County’s Civic Portal alongside other meetings.

I recently asked why a scheduled Hearing Examiner hearing didn’t appear on CivicClerk. The response was that these proceedings are quasi-judicial and therefore handled differently, but the Clerk of the Board confirmed there is no legal or technical barrier to posting them there; it’s simply a choice that could be changed if requested.

Posting Hearing Examiner hearings on the Civic Portal wouldn’t alter their legal status or decision-making. It would just make hearings easier to find in one consistent place, improving public awareness and participation.

Call to action: If you support this, consider asking the Board of Commissioners and the Department of Community Development to request that Hearing Examiner hearings be listed on CivicClerk like other public meetings.

Greg O.'s avatar

A huge concern i have is with giving Allison Berry that much power. We all went through her devasting response to a cold virus a few years back and she proved that power goes to her head. How this woman still had a job is beyond me after with the hell she put our county through. And Jeff, the real pusher behind the sol duc Valley is a man named Richard Cheng!! Can't find alot on him but he is the driving force.

Jake Seegers's avatar

Greg, the Health Director is appointed by the Board of Health and the commissioners...I'm sure they would love to hear your feedback(:

Greg O.'s avatar

Jake, the problem is the commissioners dont want to hear a word of common sense. They have a narrative to push. And they are hell bent on going over the edge!!! Sad reality....Love what you are doing though and you have my back. Im a working man and a father of three. I couldnt get to a meeting if the seas parted for me. Lol.

Robert James's avatar

Thanks, Greg...I am older and no other pressing responsibilities but health and doggies... and I feel like I should do more...but each bit helps!

I am grateful for the sanity that expresses through this forum...a light in the storm clouds...and thanks for taking care of your family...these 'street people' didn't obviously get a decent and steady home life...we hope for the best and prepare for the worst...strange days indeed!😎

Susan's avatar

Luann Hinkle is bad news for the Sol Duc Valley development. Controversy follows her every where. You might recall she was hired as Executive Director of Olympic Peninsula Humane Society in Dec 2017 and left early 2024 under very controversial circumstances after receiving a huge salary increase and OPHS was a shambles and had to restructure.

Diane Maikui's avatar

You're right! I worked under her for 6 years, it was always about the money she received. I finally quit in November of 2025. Funny she was the ED for the Humane Society but didn't like animals.

Robert James's avatar

😱😱😱 The d-evil is in the details!💰🎭💯

Robert James's avatar

Kudos! I had a vague sense of that name but couldn't recall it...the grift/graft and corruption is ubiquitous....stem the tide! Reverse the flow...we are looking at the

'big drawn down' that often happens just before a Tsunami hits the shore!😎

Dr. Sarah's avatar

Good Governance Daily Proverb:

When public pressure is required to activate existing law, engagement is doing the job management should already be doing.

NWRAINDROP's avatar

All county parcels are not the same size. A 1 acre parcel and a 30 acre parcel should not have the same restricions.

Jake Seegers's avatar

NWRAINDROP, well said.

MK's avatar

Hopefully you send your thoughts to Mr. Emery. I did.

Timothy Weller's avatar

The response one can expect, if any, is that "The burden of proof, lies with the person making the assertion." As clearly demonstrated, Clallam County Comissioners do not acknowledge taxpaying citizen residents as worthy of a response, much less consideration. At what point will said commissioners be taken to task and required to step down or be recalled? The current state of our county, with ever-increasing taxes, and spending, going unchecked has and will continue to diminish the tax base, thereby adding more burden to fewer taxpayers, who live off-reservation, or not being non-profits/NGOs. It is refreshing to have local issues being brought to light and resident taxpayers getting involved in rectifying the corruption being carried out at our expense. None of this happened overnight, but much has happened in the dark, behind closed doors and meetings, it will take time and serious commitment to correct the port list and trim.

MK's avatar

Recalling someone is a high bar and effort if a judge allows it. Running someone against an incumbent tends to be as good as one can expect.

Robert James's avatar

Good ol' 'demonocracy'! We need to change the structure of the entire system of selection/election!

via a post from @RaymondFinkle: His comment: (States should have county electoral college.)

John Adams, 2nd President of the U.S.A.;

"Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty." President John Adams 1797-1801.

Read it and weep! The second president of the good ol' U.S. of A....and others... knew what we were up against when they formed the new 'better' governmental system.

This is why real revolutions break out...all over the world...same old crap...lust...greed...ego...etc.

Will we ever learn?🤓 Maybe.

Glen Parker's avatar

Good morning Jeff,

Of course I love the new intro song. Karen got a kick out of it. I'm not sure what Paula Allen is trying to achieve with her racist hate remarks. Does she look in the mirror and punch most of herself senseless, apparently so... it's caused some brain damage. I'm with the West enders on putting a halt to Luann Hinkle's bad dream idea for Sol Duc valley.

Thank you Jake for spearheading some change and spurring commissioners into action and getting Bruce Emery to stop and listen.

All you Doggers are great and please hang in there together we can do it.

Thanks Jeff for the uplifting report on the Firefighter meeting. Good to know they don't take our tax dollars lightly.

Great article!

Have a great day all!

Jeff Tozzer's avatar

That song is for Karen, I know she's an Elvis fan!

Jake Seegers's avatar

Thanks, Glen! You have a great day as well(:

Robert James's avatar

On the topic of Sol Duc Valley...or anywhere on the Penisula...the roads are going to shit while Ferguscum taxes us into oblivion and squanders millions on fraudulent welfare/'child care' schemes and fighting the Federal Government on many fronts.

We need good roads to go anywhere...the state is failing!🤪

Robert James's avatar

Don't throw your back out doing an 'Elvis The Pelvis' impersonation for her!🤣

Ron Richards's avatar

CCC 41.20.080 appears to apply to homeless tent encampments and requires both the occupants and the owners to comply with the requirement that the premises be connected to a sewer or approved septic system. Should the county be required to install septic systems for homeless encampments on the county's property or connect them to a sewer?

Jake Seegers's avatar

Good point, Ron. Or the county and city could just enforce their trespass ordinance and eliminate the option of living outside on public lands and the evironmental catastrophe that accompanies it.

Ron Richards's avatar

There are some subtle differences. Violating CCC 41.20.080 creates a public health hazard more directly than trespassing. The Health Department one would think should be more concerned with the public health hazards and should be the last entity to violate public health related requirements.

Robert James's avatar

Scary Berry and NOzias...again!😱

Dr. Sarah's avatar

@MK — thanks for the link to HB 2489. It’s important to watch what’s happening in Olympia, but I think the value of this whole RV/encampment debate isn’t just in responding to one bill or another. What we’re really uncovering here is something more fundamental about how Clallam County applies the laws it already has.

Whether or not HB 2489 passes, the County still has:

1. public health authority (RCW 70.05),

2. environmental health and wastewater authority (RCW 70A.100; CCC Title 13),

3. building/fire safety authority (RCW 19.27),

4. emergency management authority (RCW 38.52),

5. critical areas protections under the Growth Management Act (RCW 36.70A.060), and

6. land-use planning/zoning authority (RCW 36.70A; CCC Title 33).

That’s the point that sometimes gets lost in these debates:

Local enforcement isn’t primarily about the absence of a rule — it’s about how the rules we already have are implemented and coordinated across departments.

Take @RonRichards point earlier about CCC 41.20.080 (sanitation connections). That is a public health provision — and the County must enforce it when health risks exist — but it doesn’t automatically tell us how the County should prioritize action, which department leads, or what the policy is when County land is involved. That’s an operational question, not a legislative one.

Similarly, if a state bill like HB 2489 were to limit local bans on encampments, it would change what a county can’t do — but it wouldn’t change the underlying health and safety rules we just listed, which apply regardless of shelter type.

So here’s the practical takeaway for Clallam County residents and commenters:

1. The County already has authority to enforce sanitation, health, fire, and environmental codes — without needing a new zoning ordinance.

2. What’s missing is clear policy and coordination about how those authorities are applied, especially when multiple departments are involved.

3. Defining more types of housing in Title 33 isn’t the real fix — aligning enforcement practice with existing statutory authority is the fix.

Framing this as “Olympia vs. the County” overlooks the fact that our local issues are mostly about local implementation of already-existing state and county law.

If residents want to hold commissioners accountable, the relevant questions are:

1. Can the County document how multi-title enforcement actually works right now?

2. Will the Board adopt a clear enforcement routing policy so staff don’t default to zoning every time?

3. Will the County commit to a thoughtful code cleanup based on function, not fear?

Those are the conversations that actually move this discussion forward — regardless of what state legislation comes or goes.

MK's avatar

I see it more about the thrust that Olympia keeps proceeding with and anticipating how that might muck things up no matter how reasonable the response is. Once Olympia recognizes that a workaround is messing up their plan they'll be back with more rules and laws. Ultimately an all-encompassing plan will still require alternate housing options.

Dr. Sarah's avatar

@MK, I think you’re right to flag the state-level dynamic—Olympia often reacts when local workarounds create uneven outcomes. But that’s actually why a performance-based approach matters here.

A performance-based framework doesn’t rely on carve-outs or exceptions that invite new state rules. It does the opposite: it applies the same objective safety standards to everyone, regardless of whether someone is housed, unhoused, in an RV, a tent, or a traditional dwelling.

Under existing law, the County already has authority to enforce:

1. sanitation and wastewater standards,

2. fire and life-safety requirements,

3. environmental protections and emergency authority.

Those standards apply to conditions and risk, not to housing labels or social status. That’s important, because it means encampments and alternate housing aren’t treated as special cases—they’re held to the same baseline protections for water, fire access, and environmental impact as any other use.

That approach avoids exactly the cycle you’re describing. When local governments write increasingly specific zoning rules to manage homelessness or non-traditional housing, Olympia tends to step in to correct overreach or inequity. When local governments instead enforce neutral, condition-based standards, there’s far less for the state to preempt—because the rules are already aligned with state health, safety, and environmental law.

You’re also right that long-term solutions will require alternative housing options. But those are policy choices the Board should make openly through the Comprehensive Plan, not enforcement decisions buried in zoning definitions. Performance-based enforcement keeps the focus on safety and environmental protection while leaving room for the County—and the community—to decide how and where to support alternate housing.

In short, performance-based governance doesn’t ignore homelessness or encampments—it addresses them directly, without turning land-use code into a proxy for social policy and without inviting the next round of state intervention.

Denise Lapio's avatar

I don't know how you do it, Ron. Your ability to look at an issue at the atomic level, I might even argue at the subatomic level.

Robert James's avatar

We can't 'afford' it, especially with all the money squandered on useless projects, but we NEED contained facilities to deal with the problems we face...however, the kommissars and others (we have to do what the state tells us to do) are increasing the severity of the problems and coddling the unwell, provoking the community into outrage and intolerance.

Tolerance has its limits and the sociopaths in power are exacerbating the situation.

They are either mind-controlled (my best guess) or they are intentionally promoting evil to do harm to society.

It is literally us or them, as they will not stop until we stop, the insanity!🎭💰😱

Ron Richards's avatar

Robert, I didn't mean to suggest that the county install septic systems for homeless encampments. I meant to suggest that the health code violation be used to force the county to abate the nuisance. Also, the cities are subject to health code provisions so homeless encampments without sewer or septic system connections on city property puts the cities themselves in violation of the health code. CCWatchdog has been complaining about the health hazards of homeless encampments for a long time. The health code violation is another avenue to approach that issue.

MK's avatar

Quite the conundrum. Clallam County Commissioners are backing the county into a corner because it isn't capable of attracting manufacturing or business to the region and keeps suggesting we're tourism dependent, but when there's opportunity to gain revenue it becomes a NIMBY issue.

Add to this, our incredibly smart progressive politicians in Olympia are about to seat not one but (2) Washington tribal leaders on the state’s Board of Natural Resources, which guides logging sales and other management decisions for millions of acres of public land, so that'll turn into a further decline of revenue as Dave Upthenonsense has been signaling.

I'm against 2 rvs depending on living density. I'm thinking 5 acre minimum if you want 2.

The long range planning to keep this county afloat feels deficient.

https://www.yakimaherald.com/news/northwest/washington-tribes-could-get-more-say-in-management-of-state-logging-lands/article_d4de0594-740a-492f-b2a3-847f8bb9b0a8.html

Jake Seegers's avatar

Thanks, MK. I agree that tying a second occupied RV to parcel size makes sense. The goal should be balance — protecting and expanding property rights for those who follow reasonable rules, while ensuring there are clear, enforceable tools to address those who don’t.

Dr. Sarah's avatar

@MK & @JakeSeegers:

I hear the frustration with economic planning and housing policy, and many of us want sensible limits and clarity. But there’s also a deeper governance issue that’s shaping how these decisions feel and play out in practice, and it’s one residents can influence.

Right now, the County is repeatedly asked to solve enforcement and safety concerns by turning to Title 33 (Zoning) definitions and restrictions. That includes proposed changes about recreational vehicles, park models, accessory housing, and related definitions in zoning. And yes, zoning does matter for land-use siting and compatibility. It’s found in Clallam County Code (CCC) Title 33 (Zoning), which spells out permitted uses, conditional use permits, and definitions for different land uses.

But here’s the real point:

Many of the concerns raised in the RV/alternative housing debate, such as sanitation, sewage disposal, potable water, fire access, building safety, environmental impact, waste accumulation, and emergency hazards, are already regulated under other parts of the County Code and by state law. These authorities are not discretionary zoning choices; they are state-mandated and must be enforced regardless of how Title 33 defines uses.

For example:

1. Sanitation, sewage, and potable water access are governed under County Titles like CCC Title 13 (Water & Sewers) and related public health codes enforced under state law.

2. Fire safety and emergency access fall under adopted building and fire codes tied to RCW 19.27 (State Building Code Act).

3. Public health authority, including environmental health inspections, comes from state law, such as RCW 70.05 (local health departments).

4. Emergency management authority comes from RCW 38.52.

The Growth Management Act (GMA) (which sets the framework for local planning and zoning) requires counties to prepare a Comprehensive Plan and implement it through zoning, but does not make zoning the tool for health or safety enforcement unrelated to land use siting.

In other words, Title 33 should focus on land-use questions where things are located, how dense they are, and how uses fit together, which is what the GMA intended. When zoning is used as a catch-all enforcement tool for issues that have clear code authority elsewhere, it creates confusion, uneven enforcement, and public frustration.

That’s why simply defining “RV” or “park model” doesn’t get us back to basics. It just gives zoning more categories to manage conditions that already have rules and enforcement mechanisms, often at the state level.

The operational gaps in how departments work together, how Code Enforcement routes cases, and how multiple code titles are coordinated are what keep this debate circling back. Clarifying and aligning those enforcement pathways so health, safety, building, environment, and land use each work in their own lane will help reduce reliance on zoning as a “catch-all” solution.

If residents want real progress, they can advocate for:

1. clearer code alignment (so the right authority applies in the right place),

2. better interdepartmental coordination, and

3. code cleanup that distinguishes state-mandated requirements from discretionary local policy.

That’s not minimizing regulation or ignoring safety. It’s about making the code work as intended by law, with predictable and fair outcomes for everyone.

References

Clallam County Code. (n.d.). Title 33 Zoning. https://clallam.county.codes/CCC/33

Clallam County Code. (n.d.). Contents of the Clallam County Code (Titles summarizing zoning, water/sewers, environment, building, etc.). https://clallam.county.codes/CCC

Revised Code of Washington. (n.d.). Growth Management Act — Planning under the GMA (RCW 36.70A). https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=36.70A

Revised Code of Washington (RCW) § 19.27 (State Building Code Act). https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=19.27

Revised Code of Washington (RCW) § 70.05 (Local health departments — Powers & duties). https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=70.05

Revised Code of Washington (RCW) § 38.52 (Emergency Management Act). https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=38.52

MK's avatar

Great distinctions Sarah.

Don Beeman's avatar

“No harm no foul.” Problem has always been that it is always easier to make everyone suffer.

Robert James's avatar

Dark forces dragging everyone down to a lower common denominator...Yep...the 'god(s)' of this world operating in plain view!

Only we can say NO!🎭😱🤪😎

Heather's avatar

The proposed development uses an import and export business plan. Every aspect of the resort will be imported from China, there is no local lumber, no local contractor, no local sources of any materials. It then plans to export all of it’s profits by “tokenizing” ownership of the resort globally. This is not a NIMBY issue, if this was a local owner who was supporting manufacturing and business and not located in a quite rural residential neighborhood, the Sol Duc residents would support it.

Jake Seegers's avatar

Good points, Heather.

Kathleen's avatar

No one should be living in an RV unless a family member needs a temporary place to stay on family property. RVs turn in to rust buckets ready to rust into garbage…they become a blight on any neighborhood. They attract garbage , become eyesores, and attract rats. ADU is an alternative, but only if homeowner occupies the main residence. Tiny houses if owner occupied might be acceptable if they don’t attract nuisances to a neighbors. Neighbors shouldn’t have to have these junky ideas and hovels imposed on them. They have rights to a quality life just like most of us commenters.

MK's avatar

Agreed. I'm not a fan of it, but if inevitable just thinking about control mechanisms.

JJW's avatar

So that would give (2020 census, not further estimates) 1.6 percent of population a 25%. Representation on the Board of Natural Resources. We know from local experience of that 1.6% many are 1/4 or less ,just identifying as indigenous. How is this equitable?

MK's avatar

Here's the reasoning per the article.

“We can’t undo the past, but we could create a more just and inclusive future,” Upthegrove said in committee testimony.

It’s time to stop talking about tapping into Native American knowledge, he added in an interview with the Standard, and to “actually do it.”

JJW's avatar

And what knowledge would that be in today’s world ?

Diane Maikui's avatar

Luanne Hinkle is the person that brought down the Humane Society. It was all about the money with her, not about the animals. She doesn't care about nature or wildlife, just her outrageous salary. I worked under her for 6 years. I hope the County does right by the residents and our beautiful wildlife. These outside companies, that Luanne works for have no stake in where we live.

Robert James's avatar

Sounds like Hinkle and Berry are traitors-of-a-feather!😎

Garry Blankenship's avatar

So incredibly complicated. I admit being naturally predisposed to simple answers. What I see is human population and all other specie populations are inversely proportional; more humans equals less wildlife. I'm not lobbying for the eradication of humans, but I am pointing out that current population trends are not sustainable. In the last 300 years human population rose from one billion to eight billion. Regardless of how this might square with scripture, you do the math and and then proclaim our human population trend is sustainable.

Robert James's avatar

According to ChatGPT: Population rate increase;

1960 ~ 3,000,000,000 (Billion)

1974 ~ 4,000,000,000 (Billion)

2022 ~ 8,000,000,000 (Billion)

Due to better sanitation, cleaner water, antibiotics, vaccines (before they were weaponized), agricultural productivity (before the agri-chem became so toxic), falling infant mortality, due to medical technology.

It says that the rate of reproduction has been falling since the 60's but, like a tsunami, the after-effects of the population explosion are still playing out.

Unfortunately, the entire time, since the 1950's, socialist/communist 'infiltraition' has also been ubiquitous and now we have Marxist trained narcissists in every level of government and the long-term results are predictable.

Even if they aren't Marxist trained, they are power-hungry narcissists who 'know better' than the people who pay their generous salaries and wages!

Change is always happening...it will be interesting to see how it rolls out.

I am encouraged by the younger folks who are engaging and helping to wake others up.

The next generation has a tough 'row to hoe' and I hope and pray that common sense and honesty prevail.

End the insanity!😎

Dale Russell's avatar

Population changes are coming. China, Europe, Japan, North America and most of S. America have birth rates well below replacement (around 2.2 births per woman). In a generation or two populations in those areas will start to decline. But, on the other hand, there's still Africa and the Middle East... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate#/media/File:Total_Fertility_Rate_Map_by_Country.svg

Robert James's avatar

Not to be racist but the Somalis and other Muslim cultures are intentionally out-populating us just as the Catholics did for centuries...large families change the social and political dynamics and it's openly stated by many Muslims that their whole goal is to gain dominance over the world and subjugate the 'infidels'.

The more things change, the more they remain the same!😎

There are more globalist plans for population reduction and densification and densification is happening right here, right now, but we are still experiencing population increase locally...it's a mixed bag for sure.🎭💰♥️

Dale Russell's avatar

There is nothing racist about stating the obvious. For example, the birth rate for native Frenchwomen is 1.7 (below replacement). The government is eagerly importing individuals from countries like Somalia and other places in Africa where the birth rate is 6.1. I think it was Mark Steyn who said that "the future belongs to those who show up". The Hagia Sophia Grand Mosque in Istanbul was once a church. If you want to see Notre Dame you better go soon. One day it will make a fine Mosque. Already in Vienna, Austria, a majority of 1st graders don't speak German. I think you can see where that is going.

Garry Blankenship's avatar

I hope you're right about any reduction. There is no reason we can't find a world cooperative solution. Another eight billion and there will be fighting over the last Salmon or whatever.

Denise Lapio's avatar

Garry, I'm sending you a hug. The world needs more hugs.

Garry Blankenship's avatar

Thank you. Always welcome.

Evrita Romero's avatar

This is great news! We are starting to see progress and the reason is we are all banning together to let these commissioners understand that they work for us. Let’s keep up the good fight everybody!

Denise Lapio's avatar

Thank you, Jeff and Jake, for bringing CC some good news. Our efforts for transparency and accountability are slowly making a difference. I don't get the mirror concept. I think the only natural creature it will attract is Big Foot. Odd. Keep practicing your Elvis, Jeff. The new song is cool and I'm looking forward to more.

Jeff Tozzer's avatar

Thank you, thank you very much.

Dale Russell's avatar

"32 prefabricated structures and a 4,800-square-foot community center on a 21-acre parcel currently zoned for 5-acre homesites." We live in an area of the county with 5 acre zoning. To give every parcel in our small development a view most lots have a long, skinny shape with the homes built at the one end that provides a view. We only use about 1 out of the 5 acres. A neighbor nearby who has a horse asked us if she could buy the "back" 4 to build a horse barn. We said sure. We weren't using it. When she investigated the possibility with the county she was told in no uncertain terms that was not possible. The five acres cannot be subdivided. But the county is OK with 32 structures on 21 acres? It sounds to me like there is money changing hands somewhere unseen.

Michael Heath's avatar

Nice work Jeff Tozzer~!

With all of the time & money burning garbage that the good folks of our community have to constantly deal with because of the often-dysfunctional government, it is a positive experience when those in government actually do their jobs instead of steamrolling over the majority~! Had this Sol Duc issue been a serious enough financial windfall for the government and/or the proposed developers, I have no doubt that things would not have gone well for the local folks who are concerned about the impact of such a project. In any case, we hope everyone keeps up the good work. I wish that more Woodby developers showed more concern and respect for those who would be most impacted by their aspirations, although I also do understand that no matter what a developer does there will be someone who does not like the plan. With more courtesy, reasonable disclosure, intelligent planning, and some cooperation, there are a great many improvements that can be made to take advantage of the great potential of our little piece of Paradise ;-)

Cheers~!

Mike

Robert James's avatar

'Scary Berry' and 'enforcement authority' in the same sentence....terrifying!😱

It's true we need enforcement authority for many issues as humanity is a shit-show on many levels, but concentrating power in the hands of extreme ideologues like Berry and Nozias is a disaster unfolding....they don't use their authority to deal with serious sociological issues, they actually make them worse for the majority and coddle the marginalized criminal elements...socialism is a failure and always has been...let the chips fall...😎

@RaymondFinkle

3 hours ago

(States should have county electoral college.)

"Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty." President John Adams 1797-1801.