What a crock. Getting real tired of these anti American pricks making making new laws and destroying the country that was established by our forefathers. Where in all our laws and constitution does it give them these privileges? We have Washington lawmaker discussing making life better for predators in Washington right now. Guess what that will bring to this state and out to the peninsula. They must be hitting the peace pipe in Port Angeles To say they want to set a new standard that aligns with world views and basicly takes our sovereignty away is treason in my book. The forefathers would have tarred and featherd them and thrown them in the bay. Federal government needs to rethink the sovereign land and fringe benefits. Because soon we will all be foreigners in OUR OWN LAND at this rate. Did the tribes offer Lindsey his own teepee?
Elected officials here have no backbone because they are mostly libtards that take orders from other libtards.They do not know how to sharpen pencils which takes a little skill,it is much easier for them to just vote for higher fee's & taxes then go to joshua's for lunch and brag about what a good job they are doing.
These so called sovereign nations can only survive with ignorants that obey them and give the beggars what they need $$$ a simple boycott would cure them real quick.
UFOCCWD I do like the idea, but what type of boycott? They survive with grants. They survive with tourism and gas taxes. They survive way beyond boycotts. They survive because of the US citizens tax money lets them survive. I know it's frustrating, I pull my hair out, but the best way is to vote in the people who oppose the unfair treaties that were made over 100 years ago. Treaties that need to be amended to the present day economics. Trump is doing some of this for us. We need to start with voting in our best candidate for 2026 - Jake Seegers.
Jean, and the tribes can donate to a party and aren't bound by the constitution, nor have to abide by our rules of government, but are trying to push our rules and their rules on us. They have no boundaries!
Almost! The take-over is next! AI- "Salish Sea" is a collective name for the larger marine ecosystem that includes the Strait of Juan de Fuca, Strait of Georgia, and Puget Sound.
Lindsey Schromen-Wawrin is an attorney and an avowed left-winger who has worked for the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund; his bio states his “clients have included numerous grassroots community groups fighting for local democracy. He has written about the rights of nature in Representing Ecosystems in Court: An Introduction for Practitioners. He serves as a city councilor in Port Angeles, Washington, and is a member of the International Parliamentary Alliance for the Recognition of Ecocide.” Ecocide? Good riddance, Lindsey. And
Ms. Suggs is a JKT citizen. So, their support of this kind of total and complete crap should be no real surprise. If we’re talking “equity” - another BS term - should this legally-questionable idea come to pass, would it not be “fair and equitable” for tribal projects to then require approval of non-tribal city and county residents?
EXACTLY. This is not the kind of movement that happens in a vacuum. Of course he would wait until the last three seconds of his term in office to slip it in there.
"First thing we do, is kill all the lawyers!" Attributed to King Henry VIII.
He wasn't a good guy but he knew what he was talking about.
No 'attorney' or 'lawyer' is going to stick their necks out for truth, justice, liberty, accountability and tough love...vultures waiting in the wings of the halls of depravity, slavering about all the guts and gore which is their 'glory'!
There are probably some good "lawyers" out there but they know the system and its perils and aren't going to martyr themselves for us.
It's up to The People, only we can decide when enough is too much.
RoberT J, your comment, "No 'attorney' or 'lawyer' is going to stick their necks out for truth, justice, liberty, accountability and tough love"
Apparently our county prosecutor can't do that either. He passed it on to another county prosecutor because it was "too political" for him to handle. In fact, Straight Shooter has a rather hilarious take on our prosecuting attorney side stepping his job. Read his whole article. Not only entertaining, but it chews on the real bone.
Clallam County Prosecutor Unveils Bold New Strategy: Ignore Actual Crimes, Nail Jaywalkers Instead
By The Strait Shooter Staff
CLALLAM COUNTY — In a stunning show of prosecutorial courage, County Prosecutor Mark Nichols continues to stare down the single greatest threat to public safety: people who walk across streets slightly incorrectly.
Meanwhile, the individuals who tore out flags and markers on the Doc Holliday timber parcel — a very real crime with actual victims — continue to enjoy the kind of legal immunity normally reserved for foreign diplomats and billionaire donors."
'a major push is underway to establish ecocide as the fifth international crime, joining genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and aggression. The proposed definition is "unlawful or wanton acts committed with knowledge that there is a substantial likelihood of severe and either widespread or long-term damage to the environment being caused". ' little by little step by step.....in 5-10 years this world will be ???
The way they sneak stuff in is to put it on a multi year plan with some other unospicious regulations. Seems to be an approved method of these tyrants. Hide it in a pile of dogshit out in the yard. Over the years. Dogshit washes away leaving their prize.
Simply devious! This is a 'secular' 'fascist' society now and the 'slow creep' is becoming a flood! Get to 'Higher Ground' if you can and give your soul to Jesus, 'cause your ass belongs to the devil!😂
Well, they apparently only selectively actually prosecute ANY of the 'crimes', so just another level of insanity on top of the 800,000+ laws on the American books.
I'm sure 'ecocide' will be punished, as will all non-compliant persons!
They monitor EVERYTHING from space and drones now, so there is no more privacy. Technology can look into your home and tell how many warm bodies are there, and where, if they want to...and I think they REALLY WANT TO...because they CAN!😎
Well, all the "key" words are there, inclusive, equity. There is zero EQUITY here. Not for home owners or tax payers. This entire state and now our remote cities are prone to the same disease left wing craziness has caused. Citizens are tired of more money grabs for so called housing, and liberal pet projects. And now, the Tribe may get to have the final word? Ridiculous.
Port Angeles can't control their streets now, yet we should believe in their beautification scheme? Let's add more agencies. That'll help. NOT. Maybe time for the tribal leaders to suggest assimilation instead of handouts. It's time.
There is a definition of Net Ecological Gain in the Wa Dept of Ecology Shoreline Master Plan handbook:
Simply stated, the no net loss standard is designed to halt the introduction of new impacts to shoreline ecological functions resulting from new development...
The proposed definition for NEG in the state of Washington is as follows:
NET ECOLOGICAL GAIN (NEG) MEANS THAT AFTER DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN BIODIVERSITY OR RESILIENCE THAT IMPROVES THE DELIVERY OF VALUED ECOSYSTEM FUNCTIONS IN THE AFFECTED ECOSYSTEM.
An extremely alarming condition of NEG is getting TRIBAL CONSENT BEFORE A PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. That is too much power over the affairs of Clallam County homes or businesses. To me, it is essentially “CC developmental gill netting”. The ability for JST to interpret NEG to their advantage is obvious. JST itself, would not have to adhere to the ANY STANDARDS of NEG. For this idea to even make it to the Commissioners table is obviously fishy. I vote a HUGE NO for the Tribe to have a finger in the pie!
Let us not lose sight of current head of Dept. of Ecology. Casey Sixkiller, son of Sonny, spokesman for Seven Cedars, etc. For 99 percent of the readers here, that might be troubling. Not like me to be so polite.
Is it the city’s Comprehensive Plan or the JST Comprehensive Plan that is being mimicked?
Below is the 2016 Jamestown Comprehensive Plan. It includes the same elements as the city’s Comprehensive Plan. It appears the JST 2016 Comprehensive Plan is right on target and supported by the 2026 20 yr blueprint Comprehensive Plan of the city. There is too many interlacing implementations for comfort.
“The Comprehensive Plan is the Tribe's road map. It tells us where we expect to end up, and how we intend to get there.”
Land Area Definitions:
TRIBAL LAND CONSOLIDATION AREA. (map on page 14) This area was approved by the United States Department of the Interior as the place in which the Tribe will concentrate land acquisition and economic development efforts, and within which lands may be designated as Tribal trust land
CEDED AREAS The Ceded Area is the land which was ceded to the United States when the Point No Point Treaty was signed by the Klallam, Chimacum and Twana peoples in 1855
USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED AREA (maps on pages 17) This area, also defined by the Point No Point Treaty of 1855 (the text of which is printed beneath the map on page 16), is the area in which rights to fish, hunt and gather were retained when the Tribes ceded the land to the United States.
The Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe initially acquired roughly ten acres of fee lands in Blyn in 1986, which it then had CONVERTED TO RESERVATION LAND for the Tribal Campus and future Casino. It has been the Tribe’s intent from that time forward TO CONTINUE ACQUIRING LANDS FOR REBUILDING THE TRIBE’S LAND BASE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE: for instance, by in-filling between the Campus and the southwestern edge of the Blyn basin.
Although Tribes are not required to plan under Washington State’s Growth Management Act, and although our reservation lands are not subject to the jurisdiction of Clallam County or the State, ANY DECISIONS MADE BY CLALLAM COUNTY OR THE STATE WITH RESPECT TO OUR FEE LANDS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE THOSE LANDS IN THE FUTURE.
Understanding how the tribe can continue to acquire lands takes a basic understanding of Fee to Trust Lands Acquisitions then ultimately a Tribal Reservation Proclamation.
A “reservation proclamation” is a formal declaration requested by a Federally Recognized Tribe that certain lands are proclaimed as a new reservation or an addition to an existing reservation.
Land included in a reservation proclamation must be held in trust status by the federal government. If land included in a reservation proclamation request is not trust land, a fee to trust acquisition and reservation proclamation can be processed concurrently.
Like I said in previous posts, research Legal vs Lawful...all this talk about what is legal has virtually nothing to do with being Lawful!
The entire 'legal' system is a scam from the very beginning.
We need to follow Law, which is Higher than 'legality'...and simpler...doesn't need attorneys to interpret and distort it through 'legal' argumentation..Right and Wrong are NOT complicated.
Belief in the legal system will be our downfall and our bankruptcy, both moral and fiscal!🤨
The Tribe’s Plan is that transportation safety be timed with Tribal Land Development. Are the proposed roundabouts about safety, or are they about funneling business into the future Tribal business? (A Convention Center and proposed 101 Truck Stop)
Much of our Tribal commerce and development will depend on the capability of US Highway 101 to function efficiently as a regional traffic corridor, and provide safe local access. Safety improvements on the corridor SHOULD BE TIMED WITH TRIBAL LAND DEVELOPMENT. Traffic safety is a continuing concern.
Safety projects were identified in the Tribe’s transportation plans and priority list. However, only two (the Pedestrian-Service Cart Tunnel and the Jimmycomelately Creek Relocation) HAVE BEEN FUNDED AND IMPLEMENTED.
In Blyn, non-motorized service will improve when the Olympic Discovery Trail is completed, and we HAVE SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVED FUNDING and completed several sections of the trail through Blyn, with more in the planning stages
Good heavens, Orca man is at it again? The Community Socialist wants to turn over decision making to local tribes because...what? They already have sovereignty. That have the wherewithal to make copious amounts of money via legal gambling and a tribal justice system that is virtually untouchable by outsiders. They rule their own government and now LSW wants to allow them, for whatever perks it may offer him and his council (and we all know that it's HIS council), so that they have a say in what you, Port Angelenas, are coughing up ever increasing amounts of your money for? You're going to be dragged into whatever presentism concoction he dreams up next because he'll wag his little fin until you do his bidding. Maybe it's time for him to have a change in costume. You can't save the Orcas if you support the tribes' history and traditions, it's part of their heritage.
Lindsey is a UN, ICLEI, tribal nations grade ambulance chaser.
He and any council members who follow him are about to commit political hari kari, and bankrupt the city as they back it into a proverbial litigation buzzsaw.
Going first in the nation will bring in legal guns from around the country because of the implications, and bring Lindsey his second "legal" bloody nose in his career. He's about to burn his bridge with the non-tribal public. Next stop, he'll be hired by a tribe as an attorney, or find a job under Ferguson's administration and push more of this international agenda on the state.
AI:
This is a complex legal question with no definitive, simple answer, as it involves the intersection of tribal sovereignty, international law (FPIC), and state constitutional law (equal protection).
While the concept of Free, Prior, and Informed Consent (FPIC) grants a de facto veto power to indigenous nations in international human rights law, its inclusion in a municipal master plan in the United States would face significant legal challenges under the Washington State Constitution's equal protection clause.
Here's a breakdown of the key considerations:
⚖️ Equal Protection and Tribal Status
The Washington State Constitution, like the U.S. Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, prohibits laws that treat one class of people differently from another without a rational basis.
* Political Classification, Not Race: The key legal precedent is that the relationship between the federal government (and by extension, state and local governments) and federally recognized Indian tribes is a political relationship, not a racial one. This political status, stemming from the tribes' original sovereignty and treaty rights, generally means that laws treating tribal members differently from non-members are not automatically considered racial discrimination and do not typically violate equal protection.
* Sovereign-to-Sovereign Distinction: Providing unique consultation or consent powers to local tribal nations is legally viewed as recognizing their pre-existing sovereign status, which predates the state itself. Federal and state courts have consistently upheld laws and agreements (like tribal gaming compacts) that grant rights exclusively to tribes, against equal protection challenges, because the classification is based on political status and the trust relationship, not race.
🏛️ The Veto Power Challenge
The proposal's provision that grants absolute authority to approve or veto city projects is where the challenge to equal protection would likely arise.
* FPIC as a Veto: FPIC grants tribes the right to withhold consent, which is a powerful form of authority far exceeding standard municipal consultation requirements.
* The Delegation of Legislative Authority: The core legal issue is whether a city council can lawfully delegate its sovereign legislative and decision-making authority to an external governmental entity—even a sovereign one—in a way that impacts all city residents.
* The Washington State Constitution mandates that local governments exercise their powers in a way that serves the interests of all their constituents. Delegating an absolute veto to one group (even a sovereign one) could be challenged as an unlawful delegation of power that disproportionately affects the rights of non-tribal residents and property owners in the city.
* Risk of Ultra Vires: A court might rule the provision "ultra vires," meaning beyond the legal power or authority of the Port Angeles City Council to enact, regardless of the equal protection challenge.
📝 Conclusion on Legal Viability
While treating federally recognized tribes as sovereign political entities does not typically violate equal protection, granting them an absolute, perpetual veto over all municipal projects would likely be found unconstitutional by a state court.
The most likely ground for invalidation would be that the city unlawfully delegated its core governmental power to an external body, potentially violating both the equal protection clause (by creating a fundamentally unequal political process) and the general principles of municipal governance in Washington State.
* Current US Practice: While consultation and accommodation with tribal nations is required by federal and often state law, the US federal government currently interprets the FPIC principle as a "call for a process of meaningful consultation with tribal leaders," rather than an absolute power of consent/veto.
He and Suggs are probably dancing to “Ain’t No Stopping Us Now” in the council chambers. Most PA residents have no idea what’s on the line and those who are awake enough to understand are too few.
All 3 of them should have "I'm With Stupid" t-shirts, with arrows!😜
They could have different t-shirts for every day of the week: "I'm A Commie Infiltraitor"..."I Don't Care Because I Don't Have To", "Ignorance Is Bliss"
"I Call This Meeting To 'The New World Order'"..."The Toxic Triplets"..."Ecocidal Maniacs Unite"! "I Love Therefore I Destroy" "I Represent Clallamity Culture"😎
Assuming that this would quickly expand to Sequim and surrounding areas, where Jamestown has a plethora of construction related businesses. Sounds like a great deal for them. Give us the work or we veto the project.
Wow! So Canada, Korea, Russia, Honduras, Sweden, as sovereign nations can now tell PA, WA, USA what it can build, change, remove, or spend money on.? Cool, we'll see how that works out....
guess what! that tree would of been cut down asap had i been told what to do on my property... I'm also going to volunteer to be the first one that they try and remove my disabled veteran friend rv from my property... over my dead body that will happen... fkn guaranteed!! p.s. I'm also a disabled veteran, it's clear to me this county especially hates veterans!
Concerned, the people of the county respect their veterans and it certainly ignites a fire under our butts when we hear of people like you who are being abused. IMO take away the harm reduction funding and funnel it people who have served their country (as apposed to the country serving them). This is what we are all focused on. Helping those who have contributed to society. We will fight like hell so that your disabled veteran friend can stay on YOUR property.
Is this a move against any discussion about the proposal for a Coast Guard training facility here? I have a long line of follow-up questions, but I'll stop here. It seems that International big-wigs are heaping a lot of trouble on a little ol' quiet piece of America. The same question keeps my brain in constant thought: What does Clallam County have that the left desperately wants? Maybe one day soon, Bill Gates, our neighbor up the road, will answer it.
What a crock. Getting real tired of these anti American pricks making making new laws and destroying the country that was established by our forefathers. Where in all our laws and constitution does it give them these privileges? We have Washington lawmaker discussing making life better for predators in Washington right now. Guess what that will bring to this state and out to the peninsula. They must be hitting the peace pipe in Port Angeles To say they want to set a new standard that aligns with world views and basicly takes our sovereignty away is treason in my book. The forefathers would have tarred and featherd them and thrown them in the bay. Federal government needs to rethink the sovereign land and fringe benefits. Because soon we will all be foreigners in OUR OWN LAND at this rate. Did the tribes offer Lindsey his own teepee?
Elected officials here have no backbone because they are mostly libtards that take orders from other libtards.They do not know how to sharpen pencils which takes a little skill,it is much easier for them to just vote for higher fee's & taxes then go to joshua's for lunch and brag about what a good job they are doing.
That's why bad things happen to good people.
And good people eventually do 'bad things' to those who do 'bad things' to them...or not!
Only so many cheeks will be turned...just sayin'🤓
These so called sovereign nations can only survive with ignorants that obey them and give the beggars what they need $$$ a simple boycott would cure them real quick.
UFOCCWD I do like the idea, but what type of boycott? They survive with grants. They survive with tourism and gas taxes. They survive way beyond boycotts. They survive because of the US citizens tax money lets them survive. I know it's frustrating, I pull my hair out, but the best way is to vote in the people who oppose the unfair treaties that were made over 100 years ago. Treaties that need to be amended to the present day economics. Trump is doing some of this for us. We need to start with voting in our best candidate for 2026 - Jake Seegers.
Totally agree! But WILL WE?😝
Another 'young global leader' trying to take us down in flames!
Something is going to 'give'!
Soon.🤪
Corporations aren't bound by the constitution.
But they can donate to a party...
All lines have been blurred and crossed.
The original meaning of fascism is the blending of corporations and gov't.
Whaddayaknow?🤫
Jean, and the tribes can donate to a party and aren't bound by the constitution, nor have to abide by our rules of government, but are trying to push our rules and their rules on us. They have no boundaries!
Can't wait until the tribes take over the straight of Juan de Fuca.
I'm sure they have the new name picked out already...also have to rename the Spanish Fort site in Neah Bay, among other things.
Maybe it will be "The Strait of We:a-gonnaFuckya"!
The tribes and the jibes and the bribes!😱
I think they are. Didn’t it get renamed the Salish sea?
Well, the other tribes aren't going to like the whole place named after their enemies. Whatchagonnado?😎
Almost! The take-over is next! AI- "Salish Sea" is a collective name for the larger marine ecosystem that includes the Strait of Juan de Fuca, Strait of Georgia, and Puget Sound.
Lindsey Schromen-Wawrin is an attorney and an avowed left-winger who has worked for the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund; his bio states his “clients have included numerous grassroots community groups fighting for local democracy. He has written about the rights of nature in Representing Ecosystems in Court: An Introduction for Practitioners. He serves as a city councilor in Port Angeles, Washington, and is a member of the International Parliamentary Alliance for the Recognition of Ecocide.” Ecocide? Good riddance, Lindsey. And
Ms. Suggs is a JKT citizen. So, their support of this kind of total and complete crap should be no real surprise. If we’re talking “equity” - another BS term - should this legally-questionable idea come to pass, would it not be “fair and equitable” for tribal projects to then require approval of non-tribal city and county residents?
Go figure. Another lawyer..... This country needs to cull that herd.
WHERE HAVE ALL THE LAWYERS GONE 🎶 CLALLAM COUNTY 🎶
Workin' for the NWO...they pay well!🤑
EXACTLY. This is not the kind of movement that happens in a vacuum. Of course he would wait until the last three seconds of his term in office to slip it in there.
With a surety of confidence it will 'stick'...stupidity goeth before the fall!🤓
Eric
Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer in the road?
A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.
Q: How many lawyers do you need to paint the Great Wall of China red?
A: It depends on how hard you throw them.
NO lawyers are rebutting it, so....must be true!🤓
Flies on sh*t.
You are too kind!🤣
Dying Maggots on putrified flesh!
How low can we go?😁
"First thing we do, is kill all the lawyers!" Attributed to King Henry VIII.
He wasn't a good guy but he knew what he was talking about.
No 'attorney' or 'lawyer' is going to stick their necks out for truth, justice, liberty, accountability and tough love...vultures waiting in the wings of the halls of depravity, slavering about all the guts and gore which is their 'glory'!
There are probably some good "lawyers" out there but they know the system and its perils and aren't going to martyr themselves for us.
It's up to The People, only we can decide when enough is too much.
Wakey, wakey...😊
RoberT J, your comment, "No 'attorney' or 'lawyer' is going to stick their necks out for truth, justice, liberty, accountability and tough love"
Apparently our county prosecutor can't do that either. He passed it on to another county prosecutor because it was "too political" for him to handle. In fact, Straight Shooter has a rather hilarious take on our prosecuting attorney side stepping his job. Read his whole article. Not only entertaining, but it chews on the real bone.
Clallam County Prosecutor Unveils Bold New Strategy: Ignore Actual Crimes, Nail Jaywalkers Instead
By The Strait Shooter Staff
CLALLAM COUNTY — In a stunning show of prosecutorial courage, County Prosecutor Mark Nichols continues to stare down the single greatest threat to public safety: people who walk across streets slightly incorrectly.
Meanwhile, the individuals who tore out flags and markers on the Doc Holliday timber parcel — a very real crime with actual victims — continue to enjoy the kind of legal immunity normally reserved for foreign diplomats and billionaire donors."
'a major push is underway to establish ecocide as the fifth international crime, joining genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and aggression. The proposed definition is "unlawful or wanton acts committed with knowledge that there is a substantial likelihood of severe and either widespread or long-term damage to the environment being caused". ' little by little step by step.....in 5-10 years this world will be ???
The way they sneak stuff in is to put it on a multi year plan with some other unospicious regulations. Seems to be an approved method of these tyrants. Hide it in a pile of dogshit out in the yard. Over the years. Dogshit washes away leaving their prize.
Simply devious! This is a 'secular' 'fascist' society now and the 'slow creep' is becoming a flood! Get to 'Higher Ground' if you can and give your soul to Jesus, 'cause your ass belongs to the devil!😂
Well, they apparently only selectively actually prosecute ANY of the 'crimes', so just another level of insanity on top of the 800,000+ laws on the American books.
I'm sure 'ecocide' will be punished, as will all non-compliant persons!
They monitor EVERYTHING from space and drones now, so there is no more privacy. Technology can look into your home and tell how many warm bodies are there, and where, if they want to...and I think they REALLY WANT TO...because they CAN!😎
In 5-10 years this world may be cleansed of humanity with AI-bots running everything...or maybe not! 'Only the Shadow knows!'😊
Well, all the "key" words are there, inclusive, equity. There is zero EQUITY here. Not for home owners or tax payers. This entire state and now our remote cities are prone to the same disease left wing craziness has caused. Citizens are tired of more money grabs for so called housing, and liberal pet projects. And now, the Tribe may get to have the final word? Ridiculous.
Port Angeles can't control their streets now, yet we should believe in their beautification scheme? Let's add more agencies. That'll help. NOT. Maybe time for the tribal leaders to suggest assimilation instead of handouts. It's time.
There is a definition of Net Ecological Gain in the Wa Dept of Ecology Shoreline Master Plan handbook:
Simply stated, the no net loss standard is designed to halt the introduction of new impacts to shoreline ecological functions resulting from new development...
The proposed definition for NEG in the state of Washington is as follows:
NET ECOLOGICAL GAIN (NEG) MEANS THAT AFTER DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN BIODIVERSITY OR RESILIENCE THAT IMPROVES THE DELIVERY OF VALUED ECOSYSTEM FUNCTIONS IN THE AFFECTED ECOSYSTEM.
https://washacad.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/WSAS-Net-Ecological-Gain-Report-Combined-final-July-2022.pdf
An extremely alarming condition of NEG is getting TRIBAL CONSENT BEFORE A PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. That is too much power over the affairs of Clallam County homes or businesses. To me, it is essentially “CC developmental gill netting”. The ability for JST to interpret NEG to their advantage is obvious. JST itself, would not have to adhere to the ANY STANDARDS of NEG. For this idea to even make it to the Commissioners table is obviously fishy. I vote a HUGE NO for the Tribe to have a finger in the pie!
Let us not lose sight of current head of Dept. of Ecology. Casey Sixkiller, son of Sonny, spokesman for Seven Cedars, etc. For 99 percent of the readers here, that might be troubling. Not like me to be so polite.
Thx 4 reminder! They're everywhere! We're surrounded by commies.
This IS 5th Generation Warfare...humans just can't stay away from war, in some form!
Holy Crap ScatMan...We NEED A BIG FLUSH!🎭
Is it the city’s Comprehensive Plan or the JST Comprehensive Plan that is being mimicked?
Below is the 2016 Jamestown Comprehensive Plan. It includes the same elements as the city’s Comprehensive Plan. It appears the JST 2016 Comprehensive Plan is right on target and supported by the 2026 20 yr blueprint Comprehensive Plan of the city. There is too many interlacing implementations for comfort.
https://jamestowntribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Comprehensive_Plan_Revised_in_2016_Final.pdf
“The Comprehensive Plan is the Tribe's road map. It tells us where we expect to end up, and how we intend to get there.”
Land Area Definitions:
TRIBAL LAND CONSOLIDATION AREA. (map on page 14) This area was approved by the United States Department of the Interior as the place in which the Tribe will concentrate land acquisition and economic development efforts, and within which lands may be designated as Tribal trust land
CEDED AREAS The Ceded Area is the land which was ceded to the United States when the Point No Point Treaty was signed by the Klallam, Chimacum and Twana peoples in 1855
USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED AREA (maps on pages 17) This area, also defined by the Point No Point Treaty of 1855 (the text of which is printed beneath the map on page 16), is the area in which rights to fish, hunt and gather were retained when the Tribes ceded the land to the United States.
The Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe initially acquired roughly ten acres of fee lands in Blyn in 1986, which it then had CONVERTED TO RESERVATION LAND for the Tribal Campus and future Casino. It has been the Tribe’s intent from that time forward TO CONTINUE ACQUIRING LANDS FOR REBUILDING THE TRIBE’S LAND BASE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE: for instance, by in-filling between the Campus and the southwestern edge of the Blyn basin.
Although Tribes are not required to plan under Washington State’s Growth Management Act, and although our reservation lands are not subject to the jurisdiction of Clallam County or the State, ANY DECISIONS MADE BY CLALLAM COUNTY OR THE STATE WITH RESPECT TO OUR FEE LANDS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE THOSE LANDS IN THE FUTURE.
Understanding how the tribe can continue to acquire lands takes a basic understanding of Fee to Trust Lands Acquisitions then ultimately a Tribal Reservation Proclamation.
https://www.bia.gov/bia/ots/fee-to-trust
Reservation Proclamations
A “reservation proclamation” is a formal declaration requested by a Federally Recognized Tribe that certain lands are proclaimed as a new reservation or an addition to an existing reservation.
Land included in a reservation proclamation must be held in trust status by the federal government. If land included in a reservation proclamation request is not trust land, a fee to trust acquisition and reservation proclamation can be processed concurrently.
Then once it is a reservation it earns SOVEREIGN STATUS!
Like I said in previous posts, research Legal vs Lawful...all this talk about what is legal has virtually nothing to do with being Lawful!
The entire 'legal' system is a scam from the very beginning.
We need to follow Law, which is Higher than 'legality'...and simpler...doesn't need attorneys to interpret and distort it through 'legal' argumentation..Right and Wrong are NOT complicated.
Belief in the legal system will be our downfall and our bankruptcy, both moral and fiscal!🤨
The Tribe’s Plan is that transportation safety be timed with Tribal Land Development. Are the proposed roundabouts about safety, or are they about funneling business into the future Tribal business? (A Convention Center and proposed 101 Truck Stop)
https://jamestowntribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Comprehensive_Plan_Revised_in_2016_Final.pdf
Transportation (Pg 27-28)
Much of our Tribal commerce and development will depend on the capability of US Highway 101 to function efficiently as a regional traffic corridor, and provide safe local access. Safety improvements on the corridor SHOULD BE TIMED WITH TRIBAL LAND DEVELOPMENT. Traffic safety is a continuing concern.
Safety projects were identified in the Tribe’s transportation plans and priority list. However, only two (the Pedestrian-Service Cart Tunnel and the Jimmycomelately Creek Relocation) HAVE BEEN FUNDED AND IMPLEMENTED.
In Blyn, non-motorized service will improve when the Olympic Discovery Trail is completed, and we HAVE SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVED FUNDING and completed several sections of the trail through Blyn, with more in the planning stages
Good heavens, Orca man is at it again? The Community Socialist wants to turn over decision making to local tribes because...what? They already have sovereignty. That have the wherewithal to make copious amounts of money via legal gambling and a tribal justice system that is virtually untouchable by outsiders. They rule their own government and now LSW wants to allow them, for whatever perks it may offer him and his council (and we all know that it's HIS council), so that they have a say in what you, Port Angelenas, are coughing up ever increasing amounts of your money for? You're going to be dragged into whatever presentism concoction he dreams up next because he'll wag his little fin until you do his bidding. Maybe it's time for him to have a change in costume. You can't save the Orcas if you support the tribes' history and traditions, it's part of their heritage.
Is the vacant hole in the ground in the center of PA where Cornerhouse Restaurant once stood an example of net ecological gain?
The $14m new 911 Call Center being built by the airport is on its way
(Again outside contractors) should have been built by the PBH new condos
Then you would not need computers and phones. Just knock on the door.
Mic drop.
Less 'white' businesses is net political gain!😱
And the BLACK HOLE in NYC where the towers were!
Something dark has arrived!
MORE LIGHT!😊
Lindsey is a UN, ICLEI, tribal nations grade ambulance chaser.
He and any council members who follow him are about to commit political hari kari, and bankrupt the city as they back it into a proverbial litigation buzzsaw.
Going first in the nation will bring in legal guns from around the country because of the implications, and bring Lindsey his second "legal" bloody nose in his career. He's about to burn his bridge with the non-tribal public. Next stop, he'll be hired by a tribe as an attorney, or find a job under Ferguson's administration and push more of this international agenda on the state.
AI:
This is a complex legal question with no definitive, simple answer, as it involves the intersection of tribal sovereignty, international law (FPIC), and state constitutional law (equal protection).
While the concept of Free, Prior, and Informed Consent (FPIC) grants a de facto veto power to indigenous nations in international human rights law, its inclusion in a municipal master plan in the United States would face significant legal challenges under the Washington State Constitution's equal protection clause.
Here's a breakdown of the key considerations:
⚖️ Equal Protection and Tribal Status
The Washington State Constitution, like the U.S. Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, prohibits laws that treat one class of people differently from another without a rational basis.
* Political Classification, Not Race: The key legal precedent is that the relationship between the federal government (and by extension, state and local governments) and federally recognized Indian tribes is a political relationship, not a racial one. This political status, stemming from the tribes' original sovereignty and treaty rights, generally means that laws treating tribal members differently from non-members are not automatically considered racial discrimination and do not typically violate equal protection.
* Sovereign-to-Sovereign Distinction: Providing unique consultation or consent powers to local tribal nations is legally viewed as recognizing their pre-existing sovereign status, which predates the state itself. Federal and state courts have consistently upheld laws and agreements (like tribal gaming compacts) that grant rights exclusively to tribes, against equal protection challenges, because the classification is based on political status and the trust relationship, not race.
🏛️ The Veto Power Challenge
The proposal's provision that grants absolute authority to approve or veto city projects is where the challenge to equal protection would likely arise.
* FPIC as a Veto: FPIC grants tribes the right to withhold consent, which is a powerful form of authority far exceeding standard municipal consultation requirements.
* The Delegation of Legislative Authority: The core legal issue is whether a city council can lawfully delegate its sovereign legislative and decision-making authority to an external governmental entity—even a sovereign one—in a way that impacts all city residents.
* The Washington State Constitution mandates that local governments exercise their powers in a way that serves the interests of all their constituents. Delegating an absolute veto to one group (even a sovereign one) could be challenged as an unlawful delegation of power that disproportionately affects the rights of non-tribal residents and property owners in the city.
* Risk of Ultra Vires: A court might rule the provision "ultra vires," meaning beyond the legal power or authority of the Port Angeles City Council to enact, regardless of the equal protection challenge.
📝 Conclusion on Legal Viability
While treating federally recognized tribes as sovereign political entities does not typically violate equal protection, granting them an absolute, perpetual veto over all municipal projects would likely be found unconstitutional by a state court.
The most likely ground for invalidation would be that the city unlawfully delegated its core governmental power to an external body, potentially violating both the equal protection clause (by creating a fundamentally unequal political process) and the general principles of municipal governance in Washington State.
* Current US Practice: While consultation and accommodation with tribal nations is required by federal and often state law, the US federal government currently interprets the FPIC principle as a "call for a process of meaningful consultation with tribal leaders," rather than an absolute power of consent/veto.
Thank you Jeff, We will see you tonight. We need to have our voices heard! Time to demand outside influences to stay outside our boundries...
Wow, a lovely parting gift from Schromen Wawren.
He and Suggs are probably dancing to “Ain’t No Stopping Us Now” in the council chambers. Most PA residents have no idea what’s on the line and those who are awake enough to understand are too few.
https://youtu.be/lRNEzzN-gTo?si=WKXeUtn-XF408yFn
"Can't Stop County Government" on NOzias' laptop.
They think they are unstoppable...well, ARE THEY?🥸
Nozias should have an "Ignorance is Bliss" sticker, also...
All 3 of them should have "I'm With Stupid" t-shirts, with arrows!😜
They could have different t-shirts for every day of the week: "I'm A Commie Infiltraitor"..."I Don't Care Because I Don't Have To", "Ignorance Is Bliss"
"I Call This Meeting To 'The New World Order'"..."The Toxic Triplets"..."Ecocidal Maniacs Unite"! "I Love Therefore I Destroy" "I Represent Clallamity Culture"😎
LOLOL! OMG you are a genius once again. Thank you for the 'sick' humor
"I Love Therefore I Destroy" want one!
I want reparations! The F'ing Tribe, Commissioners, and other "leaders" have been oppressing us since we moved here!
NOI I guess that would apply under "time memorial". Your wish is granted!
Assuming that this would quickly expand to Sequim and surrounding areas, where Jamestown has a plethora of construction related businesses. Sounds like a great deal for them. Give us the work or we veto the project.
You think like a true 'Allen'!😎
Wow! So Canada, Korea, Russia, Honduras, Sweden, as sovereign nations can now tell PA, WA, USA what it can build, change, remove, or spend money on.? Cool, we'll see how that works out....
They aren't rights unless we can keep them!😎
guess what! that tree would of been cut down asap had i been told what to do on my property... I'm also going to volunteer to be the first one that they try and remove my disabled veteran friend rv from my property... over my dead body that will happen... fkn guaranteed!! p.s. I'm also a disabled veteran, it's clear to me this county especially hates veterans!
Concerned, the people of the county respect their veterans and it certainly ignites a fire under our butts when we hear of people like you who are being abused. IMO take away the harm reduction funding and funnel it people who have served their country (as apposed to the country serving them). This is what we are all focused on. Helping those who have contributed to society. We will fight like hell so that your disabled veteran friend can stay on YOUR property.
Remember the 'violent' wisdom of 'The French Fry'!
Self-fullfilling prophecy?😱
Thank you for your service. I am ashamed of how our veterans are treated.
Tyrants ALWAYS hate patriots...and matriots.
We are more an irritant than a threat, but they don't like DISSENT in any form.
They are organized, we are not...therein lies the difference.🥸
A shift of power through the lens of communism...
The are running the ICLEI playbook
Is this a move against any discussion about the proposal for a Coast Guard training facility here? I have a long line of follow-up questions, but I'll stop here. It seems that International big-wigs are heaping a lot of trouble on a little ol' quiet piece of America. The same question keeps my brain in constant thought: What does Clallam County have that the left desperately wants? Maybe one day soon, Bill Gates, our neighbor up the road, will answer it.
Im sure that pos has something to do with it..
Denise, You made me think. We have the ports and access for shipping lanes. It is temping to other countrie's interest....I'm going back to bed.
"So many things to overthrow, so little time!" (Klallam Kounty Kommissars)🤔