Motivation is what gives us the strength to change behavior. Accountability can be a source of motivation. Permissiveness and acceptance is not. As stated previously,I have been there. Thanks Chelsea.
Upon choosing my survey response, I sat in silence for a few minutes reflecting on the active addiction I walked into when I met my husband back in 2011. Silence can be so loud sometimes.
Back then, the drug landscape was completely different. Meth was meth. Heroin was heroin. Cocaine was cocaine. Sure, these drugs were cut or manipulated for profit, but not to the extent we see today. Those versions barely exist anymore. What people are buying now is often fentanyl disguised as meth, heroin, or cocaine.
What once took a few months of solid treatment to regain stability now requires a full year- if not longer, because recovery isn’t just about the drug, it’s about untangling yourself from an entire lifestyle.
I chose “accountability” in the survey because every effective 12-step program begins with admitting you have a problem that’s stronger than your willpower. Humbling experiences are often what force that realization. Chelsea losing her daughter is a painful example of a life-altering moment that can reshape a person’s direction. These moments are some of the strongest teachers we have. When we soften or avoid them through certain harm-reduction approaches, we risk weakening the very process that can lead someone to genuine recovery.
As a type 1 diabetic who depended on needles to survive, I found myself in incredibly vulnerable situations while using. People would steal my clean needles. Or even dig through my used rig box, just to feed their addiction. They didn’t care that I needed those needles to take insulin, or that taking them could literally threaten my life. Eventually, I became sick and tired of being sick and tired. I looked at the darkness around me and chose to move toward the light.
My clean date is January 28, 2014. I never intend to go back. I’ve built a life where it’s easier not to use than to use. And every morning, I take accountability for being a person deserving of love and capable of choosing a better path. Love is the strongest force on earth, but it doesn’t mean enabling. It doesn’t mean harm reduction without responsibility. It means accountability, humility, and the daily choice to sink or swim in a world that is often times incredibly cruel.
SC, thank you for boldly sharing some your story. Congratulations on almost 12 years of freedom!
If you are willing, I would love to sit down and talk with you more. Real solutions will come from folks like you who have earned wisdom through experience and victories.
We will definitely meet and speak. I was unable to attend the last gathering and look forward to another one in the future. I have emailed Jeff before about some potential meetings, I do have a lot of different perspective to share. 🙂
SC, you are one hell a an honest and easy to get know woman, even on a blog site. You all beat me to my next question.
You've been in the AA program, but I would like to know if you are familiar with the Harm Reduction Program? It's the meat of what I would like to hear.
AA is free, community family oriented. Has education for family members. Does not depend on funding and can be accessed easily no matter where you are in the US. Sponsors are part of the program and don't have to be paid or assigned.
Harm Reduction is the opposite. It's very money dependent. Without getting too wordy on my part, I would very much respect your opinion. THANK YOU SC!
I have no personal experience with the program. I was already out before it was implemented here. I also never personally used drugs intravenously. But I've known many who have.
I know people currently getting suboxone. I know people who have been on suboxone for years and are afraid to get off of it.
I personally don't agree with the harm reduction techniques. I think it's only so supported because people make money off of it. And Big Pharma has its hands in the cookie jar with suboxone.
Yes I did. I proffered AA meetings over NA meetings. The vibe was different and the meeting I frequented was more inviting. I've been to other meetings that would ask you to leave if you weren't just an alcoholic which was very discouraging to muster up the strength to go to a meeting only to be asked to leave because you had dabbled in drugs beyond alcohol.
But I found a good one in sequim that I attended for a while.
My husband (back then fiance) was just finishing up a prison sentence from his last galabant of addiction, we had a lot of damage from eachother to over come. He spent a short time in Oxford housing until we were able to be strong enough to rent a place together.
The classic 12 step program is very successful. But there's always gonna be the people who are not whole heartedly in it. There's gonna be people who try to gate keep the system.
An addict is very cunning and manipulative and will try many measures to walk around pretending to fit in.
When you've been around it as long as I have I can sense the vibe of addiction. I can observe the body language and will always call out when I'm being deceived by an individual I'm attempting to help.
They are part of my super powers now and my husband and I have helped many others get right since our last destructive venture in the drug world.
Just curious if Mike French is ever out in Forks for these business meetings? or was he present for the Veterans Day event out there? I’m thinking not, but I’m still curious to know
Hi, Kristen! Commissioner French is almost always at the weekly WEBPA business meetings in Forks. I'm sure he also attended Veteran's Day events. He was at a Clallam Bay Sekiu School meeting on Monday and a Clallam Bay Sekiu Advisory Committee meeting on Thursday. Mike is engaged on the West End and I admire him for that.
We need to change the culture of our county government. That requires changing our current leadership. I think that our commissioners are attentive, they just don't share the vision that most citizens have for real solutions to the most pressing challenges facing our community.
Brainwashed trolls who espouse violence for change, are not good leaders, no matter how attentive they are...the devil is very attentive to the devil's work but I don't want his disciples running things!😈
That’s helpful to know. As much as he notably tries to not engage w/ the public, I had a sneaky feeling he did not attend these meetings. My suspicions have been proven incorrect, but I thank you for your comment
You are not incorrect. Physical presence does not mean 'present'.
Sociopaths are the cleverest amongst us but always scheming while 'doing their duty', or 'appearing to do 'right'! This is an old, old pattern...too familiar for those of us who study Real history! These beings have been selected and trained based on personality types...for decades...combo of 'self' and 'other' 'selected'... starting in high schools and intensifying in 'universities'. University intimates 'One-Verse', or 'One Thought-Form'. What IS UNIVERSAL? Domination? Slavery? Division? Greed? Corruption? I Hope NOT!
I hope Loving Kindness and Conscious Procreation and Humility (in the face of the Absolute Reality)...but I don't really know. I sure hope that the 'sleadership' we are currently experiencing isn't IT!😎
Trust your instincts...then trust your discernment!🤓
Mike is pretty good about attending the West End business meetings. As for Veterans' Day, he wasn't at the Forks event, but he may have been at a similar event in P.A.
Wow! What an episode to listen to. This is a long one, but very much worth listening to. Thank you J&J.
Chelsea speaks to the uncomfortable truths about addiction and homelessness. I'm not going to ruin any of it here other than to day that she confirms that the permissiveness and enabling policies are attracting people from outside the region to come to the area. It's an eye opener for sure.
We can turn a blind eye to the blight, or formulate policy that's effective instead of propping up the status quo machine that's holding people down.
The opioid settlement money is going to be spent one way or another. If our elected officials only listen to those who gain from other people's misery is it no wonder that these policies exist?
You're so right, MK. I hope that everyone listens to her...If anyone is short on time, fast forward to about 20 minutes and just listen to Chelsea's 30 minute portion.
MK the Mat clinic should have never been built. The only hope I have is Trump defunding many of the programs that feed these types of clinics. There's not enough private citizens who could afford to pay for it themselves to keep it afloat or profitable. It would die on the vine without these "double dipping" programs and funds. I'm waiting like an expectant mother for it to happen!
NOVEMBER 12, 2025 Harm reduction services could face new funding challenges as the practice loses favor with the federal government.
Harm reduction models grew as a response to the HIV-AIDS crisis in the 1980s as a way to prevent disease spread via needle exchanges. Since then, these models have repeatedly been proven to reduce overdose deaths, prevent disease and bolster access to care for adults with substance use disorders (SUDs). Yet, opponents say THESE PRACTICES ENCOURAGE DRUG USE -one central argument of the Trump administration. Now, the future of harm reduction hangs in limbo.
“The main threat to harm reduction at this moment is the dramatic shifts in the funding landscape … ,” ...As addiction treatment has evolved, so has a clinical understanding of what it means for a patient to be COMPLETELY ABSTINENT FROM DRUG USE WHILE IN RECOVERY-
And by the way I didn't see their library listed with the others for the warming stations the other day. Maybe I'll re check the list. That library is part of the public library system... Odd..
I really appreciate Jake’s interview and the honest information provided by Chelsea . However, anyone that has worked in HHS, CPS, wIC, health dept in general knew these harm reduction kits were a stop-gap bandaid that would never motivate a druggie to quit using . It took her having her child . I don’t know how we could match that, plus no prenatal and drug use. It worked for one strong woman! One out of so many. But Loud and Clear Harm Reduction is an oxymoron and waste of &$$taxes.
It has be the focus of failure many times on
CCwatchdog . Thanks Jake, you are a smooth cookie when those questions slide so gently off the plate. Thank you!
You are correct. Worked in Public Health in the 90’s .
Had all kinds of programs with staff and experts free to those in need. They were underutilized, even with funding. Most success I saw was when our RNs paired with teen mothers to gain trust, teach baby care, breastfeeding and. Paper work to help utilize services. The Nurses were awesome. It is not a joke . The only thing a teen mom comes by naturally is fertility. People thought these programs were an inspiration to go to special campus with peers and we made it far to easy with day care on site , nurses , supplies etc. I hope some of those kids made it to universities and tech schools. And just possible didn’t have a child at 16-17 !
My Mother, eldest of 8 and 'helpmate' for her siblings, could have used some practical advice on the REALITIES of Parenting! Dr. (f'in) Spock was her mentor, which is to say she knew NOTHING about raising children, as opposed to 'tending to babies and toddlers', which she did have experience in. She is 90+ and still 'vampirish' about babies, if you know what I mean. I forgive her ignorance because ignorance is the default of 'the fallen ones'. I accept and Love her to the best of my ability but it was a shit-show growing up as I believe it was for MUCH, IF NOT MOST of humanity. We are often Groomed to be Unworthy and therefore ashamed to ask for help...and in my experience, often 'the helper' is as much or more wounded than the 'helpee'.
Thankfully, there IS Higher Guidance available when all our 'machinations' fail.
IT is always there, for the asking and the need!
Blessings to All, including the wounded kosmmissars!😊
I’m not sure what audience that article was written to inform.
It talks about the need to rebrand “Harm Reduction “ to something more palatable for the public. Here’s an idea, no funding, no PR requirements.
The public has become the unintended participant in a codependent relationship with addicts. I don’t want to be part of that cycle and our tax dollars should go for things that have a chance in hell of benefiting the population (those not involved in illegal pursuits, if possible)
Quick Look at cost to get clean in Wa state$4349$/week.
Six-months would be $113,000k
Others quoted as little as $6,000-30,000 per month. Out patient Tx. Can be much less, but out comes aren’t as successful according to some lame report.
That would have to be treated like a student loan and paid back!
Now, THAT, is truth... keeps the grant funding coming in, and is akin to assisted suicide, followed by resusitation to sustain grant funding, attracting more "clients" for non-profits, NGOs, and perpetuating growth for PBH, et al. Insanity is a better description, on both sides, doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results, funding the fraud with other people's earned assets and taxing unrealized capital gains that will never materialize. See it for what it is; criminal, and immoral to the benefit of productive citizen home and/or land owner/residents, reducing overall quality of life for the majority. Follow the money via your State Legislators and Congressional elected officials. This goes way beyond local, having had multiple administrations, with plenty of headwinds to block any attempts to derail what we are experiencing. "Fundamentally transform" was spoken, but never really heard or understood in the context to which it was intended by those who delivered said language. Situational awareness and critical thinking go well beyond the immediate when prudently applied. As with drug or alcohol addiction, enablement comes in many forms, including rectifying situations for others, as they learn nothing except dependency, side-stepping responsibility and accountability for their own actions, or lack thereof. One cannot un-addict an addict, in todays language, many will never overcome their addictions, because they don't have to; can't means won't, it's personal.
Addiction is brutal. It rewires the brain and changes a person, turning them into a stranger. There are no "one size fits all" solutions. An addict must decide to change and do whatever it takes to make that happen. They are never "recovered"; it is a day by day, forever struggle. It seems insurmountable, but people like you, Chelsea, have the best answer. We must do what we can to support those working at recovery and for recovery. BUT, the final answer is prevention and that comes from education. And the Chelsea's hold the answer to that. Let's move toward the what can be and not get mired down in the what is.
It dawned on me listening to her that one of the crucial things that's needed is to require the brain to a new rhythm and leave the old wiring behind. By keeping people in the problem there's absolutely no way their brains can make the switch. Harm reduction keeps them in the negative feedback cycle. It's absolutely criminal to go around and hand out 300 fresh needles and other paraphernalia.
I read the transcribed interview. I picked out the words and sentences that jumped out at me. The path to becoming free of alcohol and drug addiction is a long one and requires many elements that few can accomplish. The main element, is a reason to quit and the commitment to do it, without that, no matter what we do, it will not help.
YOU HAVE TO GET CLEAN : DRUG FREE TREATMENT
...you have to you have to get clean you have to get the drugs and the alcohol and everything out of your body so you can think clearly...The right people are more apt to help you if you're helping yourself...Treatment has to come first...There's not like the harm reduction, all of that just made it easier to get high
ACCOUNTABILITY
...if you don't have anyone holding people like me accountable..there's no progress. I didn't. I continued to use drugs.
ENABLING
...I had a roof over my head and they delivered all my drug using supplies right to my door. I didn't even have to go anywhere...It didn't help my substance use. It just enabled that. It made that super easy
DON’T GIVE ME CASH
...deep enough in my addiction to know I wasn't going to spend my money on food.
CONSISTENCY AND COMMITMENT
...what those people did that truly helped you along the way?...And so she made me her, her like priority.. And for two years from 2023 to I went to treatment in 2024...What helped is her being consistent and showing up and telling me that she cares about me
A REASON TO GET CLEAN
...if you go there short term, (28 days) you won't get her (her daughter) placed back with you until you get out...needed that five months… (short term treatment) I probably wouldn't have stayed clean when I got out.
PRIORITIES
...Except my priorities are just different now. Instead of working to get high, I'm working to keep the roof over our head
NO OBLIGATIONS OR ACCOUNTABILITY
...all of a sudden given an apartment and you didn't have a rent or any kind of obligations.
There's nothing to hold you accountable...You just get a tiny home...I destroyed our, the tiny homes get destroyed by the first, usually the first tenant in it... Ours was destroyed.
GRATITUDE
...I wasn't grateful for the tiny home.
WHY THIS LOCATION
...It's out of town people. They're all out of town people. We're all from out of town...They heard the same thing I did
GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS
...Some kind of case management at least, like where you meet with somebody and you have goals and they have expectations of you that you need to meet
The main element is what it is. It’s all about a person’s wanting to do it. When I quit smoking cigarettes in my 20s, coworkers asked how I did it — I wanted it. Same with getting through court reporting school, which many start and very few finish — I wanted it. Same with getting my finances in order to not be in poverty — I wanted it.
It’s nice to hear Chelsea say that too; it confirms for me that the people standing on corners, panhandling, even with signs saying they are sober, they don’t want to get clean or do what it takes to not be standing on a corner panhandling. It’s all about want and motivation; when a person has that, they will use every means available to do better, and there are plenty of opportunities and services for people who want that. But they have to want it.
Same as incarcerated people; some use the system to get their GED and improve themselves so they can get out and start on a better path, while others don’t. The difference is wanting it.
There are many substance abusers who have compulsive personalities which probably contribute to addiction. The compulsiveness issue can be a positive trait if substance abuse is replaced with a positive productive alternative. Like a dog with a bone, seeking government transparency and honesty. Harm reduction policy aint woikin. Hey Clallam County Commissioners, wake up, listen to those who have succeeded, not those who profit from the status quo. How do you measure success?
beyond harm reduction not working, I have come to believe it is a destructive force with a socialist, anti - independence agenda that crushes human potential
The destruction of our society is the 'great goal'. People like George Soros have openly stated that the death of America is the goal...he has been directly responsible for the river of unvetted humanity (10-20 million) which has poured across our (insanely) open borders in recent years...there are many like him.
We cannot solve any of our problems with a human-based 'secular' society.
Obviously we cannot solve them with a 'religious' society either...it's a psycho-spiritual issue which can only be solved when we acknowledge and tap into Higher Self and Universal Law.
It has to start with humility, recognizing we can't get there 'on our own', or else we would already be there, after 10,000+ years of trying.
Wisdom is hard won and there seems to be quite a lot of it on CCWD, but it seems uncommon in governance..."the ways of 'this' world!"
Commissioner Johnson deferring to our local Board of Health is infuriating. Aside from not having or taking a position, AKA doing his job,, he deferred to the very Board that instigated Marshall Law against any Jefferson and Clallam County citizen smart enough to NOT inject experimental "vaccines". The Board's justification for penalizing those skeptical of the injections was public safety. They forced people out of jobs, travel and public spaces for not injecting toxic chemical concoctions that neither stopped transmission of the targeted disease nor acquiring that disease - - - that Board. Regarding drug addition and treatment, I believe in second chances. Anything beyond that, goes to the penal system; not rehabilitation. Habitual offenders are a societal drain, repeat habitual offenders should be removed from society.
Again Allison Berry at the helm, running the show….worse far left liberal doctor we ever had. It can’t really get much worse with a doctor like her in charge!
if you listen the the meeting recording, they are practically grovelling at Berry's feet buying into the HR lies so they can throw opiate settlement funds away on more pipes and needles
Susie, Jefferson County has more to gain than Clallam County does. They can still be the good guys and support harm reduction but at the same time enforce loitering and no camping policies which pushes the problem into Clallam County. I don't blame them, they are trying to solve their crime problems, we aren't.
Our county has become dependent on the homeless/addiction industrial complex. I suspect if Mr Pelayo was to combine all the related NGO/non profits in an analysis he would find they are one of the largest employers in county.
their police are telling campers about open beds at Serenity. contrast that to $ spent on Evans Vista project that never materialized. OlyCap is another agency that could use an audit going back to the pandemic shelter at PA airport
Allison Berry, worse doctor my husband & I ever had……IN OUR LIFE TIMES. Couldn’t wait for her to leave & move on but unfortunately her gain was even more loss for many many more people.
I have heard her and spoke at meetings where she retorted with her virtue shaming "we just want to keep people alive" lies, implying those that disagree don't want the addicted to live. She is so focused on her agenda she is oblivious to the point, most of us want the addicted to have a chance at a life worth living. "meeting them where they are at" is worthless if we just leave them there to slowly die. All lost souls still walking still have a chance to join us in living life if they can step away from the harm reduction death spiral.
I recommend that she should take her oath and work the ER where lives need to be saved. Her virtue shaming is designed to tame the fragility in her head and should not be allowed to do the harm she claims to be defending.
She didn't mind full participation in the c19/Remdesivir-omnicide-social engineering program!
NOzias debunking Real Science as "high level misinformation".
The enemy dwells among us, only separate.
How many are aware the Congress and Senate and staff were exempt from jab mandates? Somebody knew something...they're getting ready to do some form of bio-terrorism again...just sayin'.😎
I can't help but wonder if the composition of the committees that Clallam County has is part of the problem. If you look at the people who are designated by position to be eligible in these positions you have to wonder where the alternative view is coming from. Something tells me that it's an echo chamber and if that's all the boccc is getting it's no wonder that we have these policies.
A valuable, informative, and uplifting interview; I look forward to more in the future, Jake! I’m hopeful you’ll make it as commissioner, and I hope you’ll continue to share stories from real people in the community and on the Peninsula.
Thank you, Jeff, for broadcasting these interviews to the people!
I am 100 percent voting for him. I agree with what Chelsey said. instead of the harm reduction act helping it harmed. I believe whoever came up with idea knew what was going to happen. Time to reverse it. I believe we need to stop enabling addicts. That is one of the biggest rules in helping someone in active addiction… do not enable! What does the harm reduction act do…. It enables an addict , so why would they want something different for themselves, when all that it’s doing is feeding there addiction!!!
Simple….THERE IS TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE IN OTHER PEOPLE’S SUFFERING.
Whether the suffering is financial or health there is money tobe made off the millions who are suffering. It is an opportunity to control people with offerings. It is the DEVILS ADVOCATE at work!
It seems like they are easy to control with drugs but actually they are not being controlled because they steal, they use, they are free to do whatever they want and their actions are uncontrollable. If they were easy to control we would be putting them to good use not bad…..hope I’m making logical sense?
Yes, logical...but pull back further...they are being used as pawns to control all of us through anger, fear, disgust, outrage, etc. It's not just being 'allowed', it's being 'implemented'. And buckets and barrels of money are being made while tearing down our society...the brilliance of evil.😈
Distraction...addiction, of any kind, is the biggest distraction...'to get no traction', to 'spin our wheels', etc....all by design. It's a tough row!☺️
About the same time I read this article, I came across another about how funding in Portland, Seattle, California, Hawaii and elsewhere for the homeless and drug addicted got hijacked by NGOs for their political aims. Link below.
"The usual faith-based groups — the Salvation Army, St. Vincent de Paul, Rescue Missions — struggle to help individuals who fall on hard times get off the streets. These programs have long been the most successful: they require sobriety and bring God into the lives of people in desperate need. But in 2013, federal funding launched a drive to "End Homelessness in Ten Years," and with it came grant money and unchecked spending."
"Suddenly, every city had a program. And suddenly anti-capitalist extremists got their hands on that money..."
"Discovery Institute and the Capital Research Center have released their dual report on how extremist groups have used homeless funding for their own political aims. It's called "INFILTRATED: The Ideological Capture of Homeless Advocacy."
"Using financial data, legal records, and original research, the report uncovers a vast network of homelessness advocates that spend billions in taxpayer dollars and philanthropic grants on everything but obvious solutions," the report states. Indeed, the obvious issues leading to homelessness, namely drug addictions and mental health problems, aren't addressed in the massive expenditures by these organizations and, in effect, worsen the homeless problem even more."
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but it makes sense.
Conspiracies are real and they are everywhere...even some positive ones like what Jake and Jeff and others are doing...conspiracies have only been identified as negative things (by CIA) using conspiracy theory to debunk truthers outing evil.
A conspiracy is two or more gathered (putting their heads together)...'breathing together' to formulate a plan of some kind.
Like 'God', 'conspiracy' has been hijacked and inverted, subverted and perverted as a tool of division and fear.
'When everything the American people believe is a lie, we will have accomplished our mission', or words to that effect...spoken by William Casey, CIA director, Reagan years. Conspiracy theories should be considered plausible or probable until proven otherwise...that's how theories are supposed to work, unless they are hijacked.😎
Clearly CC needs to exude a different message rather than an exceptional place for homelessness. Drug paraphernalia delivery? $harps containers as poop buckets? Supplies used and unused litter our county. Free needles so now most inject?? Money from lawsuit judgements from pharma opioid addiction crisis fund much of the harm reduction supplies. So how do settlements from companies that created opioid addicts help our county by funding drug paraphernalia?? Seattles new mayor appears to be a magnet for opportunists. Free stuff! Police bad! Minimal prosecution! Our county will get even more spillover from urban area if we continue our posture of compassion. Like this brave lady explained—when everything is provided; all cash goes to buy drugs.
Motivation is what gives us the strength to change behavior. Accountability can be a source of motivation. Permissiveness and acceptance is not. As stated previously,I have been there. Thanks Chelsea.
Thanks for sharing that, Eric.
Upon choosing my survey response, I sat in silence for a few minutes reflecting on the active addiction I walked into when I met my husband back in 2011. Silence can be so loud sometimes.
Back then, the drug landscape was completely different. Meth was meth. Heroin was heroin. Cocaine was cocaine. Sure, these drugs were cut or manipulated for profit, but not to the extent we see today. Those versions barely exist anymore. What people are buying now is often fentanyl disguised as meth, heroin, or cocaine.
What once took a few months of solid treatment to regain stability now requires a full year- if not longer, because recovery isn’t just about the drug, it’s about untangling yourself from an entire lifestyle.
I chose “accountability” in the survey because every effective 12-step program begins with admitting you have a problem that’s stronger than your willpower. Humbling experiences are often what force that realization. Chelsea losing her daughter is a painful example of a life-altering moment that can reshape a person’s direction. These moments are some of the strongest teachers we have. When we soften or avoid them through certain harm-reduction approaches, we risk weakening the very process that can lead someone to genuine recovery.
As a type 1 diabetic who depended on needles to survive, I found myself in incredibly vulnerable situations while using. People would steal my clean needles. Or even dig through my used rig box, just to feed their addiction. They didn’t care that I needed those needles to take insulin, or that taking them could literally threaten my life. Eventually, I became sick and tired of being sick and tired. I looked at the darkness around me and chose to move toward the light.
My clean date is January 28, 2014. I never intend to go back. I’ve built a life where it’s easier not to use than to use. And every morning, I take accountability for being a person deserving of love and capable of choosing a better path. Love is the strongest force on earth, but it doesn’t mean enabling. It doesn’t mean harm reduction without responsibility. It means accountability, humility, and the daily choice to sink or swim in a world that is often times incredibly cruel.
SC, thank you for boldly sharing some your story. Congratulations on almost 12 years of freedom!
If you are willing, I would love to sit down and talk with you more. Real solutions will come from folks like you who have earned wisdom through experience and victories.
We will definitely meet and speak. I was unable to attend the last gathering and look forward to another one in the future. I have emailed Jeff before about some potential meetings, I do have a lot of different perspective to share. 🙂
SC, you are one hell a an honest and easy to get know woman, even on a blog site. You all beat me to my next question.
You've been in the AA program, but I would like to know if you are familiar with the Harm Reduction Program? It's the meat of what I would like to hear.
AA is free, community family oriented. Has education for family members. Does not depend on funding and can be accessed easily no matter where you are in the US. Sponsors are part of the program and don't have to be paid or assigned.
Harm Reduction is the opposite. It's very money dependent. Without getting too wordy on my part, I would very much respect your opinion. THANK YOU SC!
I have no personal experience with the program. I was already out before it was implemented here. I also never personally used drugs intravenously. But I've known many who have.
I know people currently getting suboxone. I know people who have been on suboxone for years and are afraid to get off of it.
I personally don't agree with the harm reduction techniques. I think it's only so supported because people make money off of it. And Big Pharma has its hands in the cookie jar with suboxone.
Thank you for sharing your experience, SC. Your humility is genuine and your share comes from deep in your heart.
SC, may I ask? Did you use the AA program?
Yes I did. I proffered AA meetings over NA meetings. The vibe was different and the meeting I frequented was more inviting. I've been to other meetings that would ask you to leave if you weren't just an alcoholic which was very discouraging to muster up the strength to go to a meeting only to be asked to leave because you had dabbled in drugs beyond alcohol.
But I found a good one in sequim that I attended for a while.
My husband (back then fiance) was just finishing up a prison sentence from his last galabant of addiction, we had a lot of damage from eachother to over come. He spent a short time in Oxford housing until we were able to be strong enough to rent a place together.
The classic 12 step program is very successful. But there's always gonna be the people who are not whole heartedly in it. There's gonna be people who try to gate keep the system.
An addict is very cunning and manipulative and will try many measures to walk around pretending to fit in.
When you've been around it as long as I have I can sense the vibe of addiction. I can observe the body language and will always call out when I'm being deceived by an individual I'm attempting to help.
They are part of my super powers now and my husband and I have helped many others get right since our last destructive venture in the drug world.
Just curious if Mike French is ever out in Forks for these business meetings? or was he present for the Veterans Day event out there? I’m thinking not, but I’m still curious to know
Hi, Kristen! Commissioner French is almost always at the weekly WEBPA business meetings in Forks. I'm sure he also attended Veteran's Day events. He was at a Clallam Bay Sekiu School meeting on Monday and a Clallam Bay Sekiu Advisory Committee meeting on Thursday. Mike is engaged on the West End and I admire him for that.
We need to change the culture of our county government. That requires changing our current leadership. I think that our commissioners are attentive, they just don't share the vision that most citizens have for real solutions to the most pressing challenges facing our community.
I'm glad to know he attends events in the West End and listens to the Citizens there, but does he hear them?
That's a good question.
I suspect he doesn't!
He doesn’t hear speakers at the BOCC meetings so I have to agree he doesn’t in Forks either.
Brainwashed trolls who espouse violence for change, are not good leaders, no matter how attentive they are...the devil is very attentive to the devil's work but I don't want his disciples running things!😈
That’s helpful to know. As much as he notably tries to not engage w/ the public, I had a sneaky feeling he did not attend these meetings. My suspicions have been proven incorrect, but I thank you for your comment
You are not incorrect. Physical presence does not mean 'present'.
Sociopaths are the cleverest amongst us but always scheming while 'doing their duty', or 'appearing to do 'right'! This is an old, old pattern...too familiar for those of us who study Real history! These beings have been selected and trained based on personality types...for decades...combo of 'self' and 'other' 'selected'... starting in high schools and intensifying in 'universities'. University intimates 'One-Verse', or 'One Thought-Form'. What IS UNIVERSAL? Domination? Slavery? Division? Greed? Corruption? I Hope NOT!
I hope Loving Kindness and Conscious Procreation and Humility (in the face of the Absolute Reality)...but I don't really know. I sure hope that the 'sleadership' we are currently experiencing isn't IT!😎
Trust your instincts...then trust your discernment!🤓
Mike is pretty good about attending the West End business meetings. As for Veterans' Day, he wasn't at the Forks event, but he may have been at a similar event in P.A.
He gives a good 'showing', eh?🤓
Wow! What an episode to listen to. This is a long one, but very much worth listening to. Thank you J&J.
Chelsea speaks to the uncomfortable truths about addiction and homelessness. I'm not going to ruin any of it here other than to day that she confirms that the permissiveness and enabling policies are attracting people from outside the region to come to the area. It's an eye opener for sure.
We can turn a blind eye to the blight, or formulate policy that's effective instead of propping up the status quo machine that's holding people down.
The opioid settlement money is going to be spent one way or another. If our elected officials only listen to those who gain from other people's misery is it no wonder that these policies exist?
You're so right, MK. I hope that everyone listens to her...If anyone is short on time, fast forward to about 20 minutes and just listen to Chelsea's 30 minute portion.
MK the Mat clinic should have never been built. The only hope I have is Trump defunding many of the programs that feed these types of clinics. There's not enough private citizens who could afford to pay for it themselves to keep it afloat or profitable. It would die on the vine without these "double dipping" programs and funds. I'm waiting like an expectant mother for it to happen!
Jennifer, you just made yourself happy LOL! Read this:
https://bhbusiness.com/2025/11/12/harm-reduction-programs-brace-for-cuts-under-trump-administration/
NOVEMBER 12, 2025 Harm reduction services could face new funding challenges as the practice loses favor with the federal government.
Harm reduction models grew as a response to the HIV-AIDS crisis in the 1980s as a way to prevent disease spread via needle exchanges. Since then, these models have repeatedly been proven to reduce overdose deaths, prevent disease and bolster access to care for adults with substance use disorders (SUDs). Yet, opponents say THESE PRACTICES ENCOURAGE DRUG USE -one central argument of the Trump administration. Now, the future of harm reduction hangs in limbo.
“The main threat to harm reduction at this moment is the dramatic shifts in the funding landscape … ,” ...As addiction treatment has evolved, so has a clinical understanding of what it means for a patient to be COMPLETELY ABSTINENT FROM DRUG USE WHILE IN RECOVERY-
MAT clinic could become a state of the art warming center.
And by the way I didn't see their library listed with the others for the warming stations the other day. Maybe I'll re check the list. That library is part of the public library system... Odd..
It's unfortunate that true caring, which is how this starts, gets bastardized when money is part of the equation.
I really appreciate Jake’s interview and the honest information provided by Chelsea . However, anyone that has worked in HHS, CPS, wIC, health dept in general knew these harm reduction kits were a stop-gap bandaid that would never motivate a druggie to quit using . It took her having her child . I don’t know how we could match that, plus no prenatal and drug use. It worked for one strong woman! One out of so many. But Loud and Clear Harm Reduction is an oxymoron and waste of &$$taxes.
It has be the focus of failure many times on
CCwatchdog . Thanks Jake, you are a smooth cookie when those questions slide so gently off the plate. Thank you!
Thanks Susan. I agree. We can all see it. We just need to find ways to help leaders to see it too.
You are correct. Worked in Public Health in the 90’s .
Had all kinds of programs with staff and experts free to those in need. They were underutilized, even with funding. Most success I saw was when our RNs paired with teen mothers to gain trust, teach baby care, breastfeeding and. Paper work to help utilize services. The Nurses were awesome. It is not a joke . The only thing a teen mom comes by naturally is fertility. People thought these programs were an inspiration to go to special campus with peers and we made it far to easy with day care on site , nurses , supplies etc. I hope some of those kids made it to universities and tech schools. And just possible didn’t have a child at 16-17 !
PS there are never any fathers….. big surprise!
My Mother, eldest of 8 and 'helpmate' for her siblings, could have used some practical advice on the REALITIES of Parenting! Dr. (f'in) Spock was her mentor, which is to say she knew NOTHING about raising children, as opposed to 'tending to babies and toddlers', which she did have experience in. She is 90+ and still 'vampirish' about babies, if you know what I mean. I forgive her ignorance because ignorance is the default of 'the fallen ones'. I accept and Love her to the best of my ability but it was a shit-show growing up as I believe it was for MUCH, IF NOT MOST of humanity. We are often Groomed to be Unworthy and therefore ashamed to ask for help...and in my experience, often 'the helper' is as much or more wounded than the 'helpee'.
Thankfully, there IS Higher Guidance available when all our 'machinations' fail.
IT is always there, for the asking and the need!
Blessings to All, including the wounded kosmmissars!😊
Bless your innocence!😊 May it bear good fruit!😊
I’m not sure what audience that article was written to inform.
It talks about the need to rebrand “Harm Reduction “ to something more palatable for the public. Here’s an idea, no funding, no PR requirements.
The public has become the unintended participant in a codependent relationship with addicts. I don’t want to be part of that cycle and our tax dollars should go for things that have a chance in hell of benefiting the population (those not involved in illegal pursuits, if possible)
Solutions come from people like Chelsea.
Absolutely, Brian.
May God bless that dear woman.
Quick Look at cost to get clean in Wa state$4349$/week.
Six-months would be $113,000k
Others quoted as little as $6,000-30,000 per month. Out patient Tx. Can be much less, but out comes aren’t as successful according to some lame report.
That would have to be treated like a student loan and paid back!
Accountability- treatment and housing come after that. “Harm reduction “ is just another term for enabling the addiction.
HR is just sloppy street hospice, keeps the grant funds flowing
Now, THAT, is truth... keeps the grant funding coming in, and is akin to assisted suicide, followed by resusitation to sustain grant funding, attracting more "clients" for non-profits, NGOs, and perpetuating growth for PBH, et al. Insanity is a better description, on both sides, doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results, funding the fraud with other people's earned assets and taxing unrealized capital gains that will never materialize. See it for what it is; criminal, and immoral to the benefit of productive citizen home and/or land owner/residents, reducing overall quality of life for the majority. Follow the money via your State Legislators and Congressional elected officials. This goes way beyond local, having had multiple administrations, with plenty of headwinds to block any attempts to derail what we are experiencing. "Fundamentally transform" was spoken, but never really heard or understood in the context to which it was intended by those who delivered said language. Situational awareness and critical thinking go well beyond the immediate when prudently applied. As with drug or alcohol addiction, enablement comes in many forms, including rectifying situations for others, as they learn nothing except dependency, side-stepping responsibility and accountability for their own actions, or lack thereof. One cannot un-addict an addict, in todays language, many will never overcome their addictions, because they don't have to; can't means won't, it's personal.
Since accountability is the only thing we haven’t tried and the problems just keep getting worse, the answer to the poll is pretty obvious.
Well said!
Mic drop
Addiction is brutal. It rewires the brain and changes a person, turning them into a stranger. There are no "one size fits all" solutions. An addict must decide to change and do whatever it takes to make that happen. They are never "recovered"; it is a day by day, forever struggle. It seems insurmountable, but people like you, Chelsea, have the best answer. We must do what we can to support those working at recovery and for recovery. BUT, the final answer is prevention and that comes from education. And the Chelsea's hold the answer to that. Let's move toward the what can be and not get mired down in the what is.
Donna, "Let's move toward the what can be and not get mired down in the what is."
I love that.
It dawned on me listening to her that one of the crucial things that's needed is to require the brain to a new rhythm and leave the old wiring behind. By keeping people in the problem there's absolutely no way their brains can make the switch. Harm reduction keeps them in the negative feedback cycle. It's absolutely criminal to go around and hand out 300 fresh needles and other paraphernalia.
I read the transcribed interview. I picked out the words and sentences that jumped out at me. The path to becoming free of alcohol and drug addiction is a long one and requires many elements that few can accomplish. The main element, is a reason to quit and the commitment to do it, without that, no matter what we do, it will not help.
YOU HAVE TO GET CLEAN : DRUG FREE TREATMENT
...you have to you have to get clean you have to get the drugs and the alcohol and everything out of your body so you can think clearly...The right people are more apt to help you if you're helping yourself...Treatment has to come first...There's not like the harm reduction, all of that just made it easier to get high
ACCOUNTABILITY
...if you don't have anyone holding people like me accountable..there's no progress. I didn't. I continued to use drugs.
ENABLING
...I had a roof over my head and they delivered all my drug using supplies right to my door. I didn't even have to go anywhere...It didn't help my substance use. It just enabled that. It made that super easy
DON’T GIVE ME CASH
...deep enough in my addiction to know I wasn't going to spend my money on food.
CONSISTENCY AND COMMITMENT
...what those people did that truly helped you along the way?...And so she made me her, her like priority.. And for two years from 2023 to I went to treatment in 2024...What helped is her being consistent and showing up and telling me that she cares about me
A REASON TO GET CLEAN
...if you go there short term, (28 days) you won't get her (her daughter) placed back with you until you get out...needed that five months… (short term treatment) I probably wouldn't have stayed clean when I got out.
PRIORITIES
...Except my priorities are just different now. Instead of working to get high, I'm working to keep the roof over our head
NO OBLIGATIONS OR ACCOUNTABILITY
...all of a sudden given an apartment and you didn't have a rent or any kind of obligations.
There's nothing to hold you accountable...You just get a tiny home...I destroyed our, the tiny homes get destroyed by the first, usually the first tenant in it... Ours was destroyed.
GRATITUDE
...I wasn't grateful for the tiny home.
WHY THIS LOCATION
...It's out of town people. They're all out of town people. We're all from out of town...They heard the same thing I did
GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS
...Some kind of case management at least, like where you meet with somebody and you have goals and they have expectations of you that you need to meet
The main element is what it is. It’s all about a person’s wanting to do it. When I quit smoking cigarettes in my 20s, coworkers asked how I did it — I wanted it. Same with getting through court reporting school, which many start and very few finish — I wanted it. Same with getting my finances in order to not be in poverty — I wanted it.
It’s nice to hear Chelsea say that too; it confirms for me that the people standing on corners, panhandling, even with signs saying they are sober, they don’t want to get clean or do what it takes to not be standing on a corner panhandling. It’s all about want and motivation; when a person has that, they will use every means available to do better, and there are plenty of opportunities and services for people who want that. But they have to want it.
Same as incarcerated people; some use the system to get their GED and improve themselves so they can get out and start on a better path, while others don’t. The difference is wanting it.
There are many substance abusers who have compulsive personalities which probably contribute to addiction. The compulsiveness issue can be a positive trait if substance abuse is replaced with a positive productive alternative. Like a dog with a bone, seeking government transparency and honesty. Harm reduction policy aint woikin. Hey Clallam County Commissioners, wake up, listen to those who have succeeded, not those who profit from the status quo. How do you measure success?
beyond harm reduction not working, I have come to believe it is a destructive force with a socialist, anti - independence agenda that crushes human potential
The destruction of our society is the 'great goal'. People like George Soros have openly stated that the death of America is the goal...he has been directly responsible for the river of unvetted humanity (10-20 million) which has poured across our (insanely) open borders in recent years...there are many like him.
We cannot solve any of our problems with a human-based 'secular' society.
Obviously we cannot solve them with a 'religious' society either...it's a psycho-spiritual issue which can only be solved when we acknowledge and tap into Higher Self and Universal Law.
It has to start with humility, recognizing we can't get there 'on our own', or else we would already be there, after 10,000+ years of trying.
Wisdom is hard won and there seems to be quite a lot of it on CCWD, but it seems uncommon in governance..."the ways of 'this' world!"
Trying to keep hope alive!😎
Commissioner Johnson deferring to our local Board of Health is infuriating. Aside from not having or taking a position, AKA doing his job,, he deferred to the very Board that instigated Marshall Law against any Jefferson and Clallam County citizen smart enough to NOT inject experimental "vaccines". The Board's justification for penalizing those skeptical of the injections was public safety. They forced people out of jobs, travel and public spaces for not injecting toxic chemical concoctions that neither stopped transmission of the targeted disease nor acquiring that disease - - - that Board. Regarding drug addition and treatment, I believe in second chances. Anything beyond that, goes to the penal system; not rehabilitation. Habitual offenders are a societal drain, repeat habitual offenders should be removed from society.
Again Allison Berry at the helm, running the show….worse far left liberal doctor we ever had. It can’t really get much worse with a doctor like her in charge!
DISOBEY!🙂
if you listen the the meeting recording, they are practically grovelling at Berry's feet buying into the HR lies so they can throw opiate settlement funds away on more pipes and needles
She and kommissars, are agents of destruction!🥸
Rebellion becomes duty when all else fails!😎
Chelsea and Eric, I could not agree more. I commend you for speaking the truth.
What these commissioners are doing is
Enabling, and in my opinion, causing more harm in not getting them the real help that they need.
I believe that harm reduction, is harm, and Chelsea so clearly described that from her personal experience.
'1984'...Invert everything they say, to get the truth back online.😎
Jefferson County is part of the same "health region" and has the same health officer as Clallam pushing "harm reduction"
Great point, Susie.
Susie, Jefferson County has more to gain than Clallam County does. They can still be the good guys and support harm reduction but at the same time enforce loitering and no camping policies which pushes the problem into Clallam County. I don't blame them, they are trying to solve their crime problems, we aren't.
Our county has become dependent on the homeless/addiction industrial complex. I suspect if Mr Pelayo was to combine all the related NGO/non profits in an analysis he would find they are one of the largest employers in county.
their police are telling campers about open beds at Serenity. contrast that to $ spent on Evans Vista project that never materialized. OlyCap is another agency that could use an audit going back to the pandemic shelter at PA airport
Susie, we wouldn't get that information from local news. Never, ever.
Allison Berry, worse doctor my husband & I ever had……IN OUR LIFE TIMES. Couldn’t wait for her to leave & move on but unfortunately her gain was even more loss for many many more people.
If you've heard her talk at meetings it's clear that she's part of the problem.
I have heard her and spoke at meetings where she retorted with her virtue shaming "we just want to keep people alive" lies, implying those that disagree don't want the addicted to live. She is so focused on her agenda she is oblivious to the point, most of us want the addicted to have a chance at a life worth living. "meeting them where they are at" is worthless if we just leave them there to slowly die. All lost souls still walking still have a chance to join us in living life if they can step away from the harm reduction death spiral.
I recommend that she should take her oath and work the ER where lives need to be saved. Her virtue shaming is designed to tame the fragility in her head and should not be allowed to do the harm she claims to be defending.
You don't want Berry-Mengele working on you for any reason.😜
She didn't mind full participation in the c19/Remdesivir-omnicide-social engineering program!
NOzias debunking Real Science as "high level misinformation".
The enemy dwells among us, only separate.
How many are aware the Congress and Senate and staff were exempt from jab mandates? Somebody knew something...they're getting ready to do some form of bio-terrorism again...just sayin'.😎
Try having her as your MD…
I'd find a new one, mo-ricky-tic
The 'Peter Principle' at work...the commie/socialist sociopath network at its finest!😎
I can't help but wonder if the composition of the committees that Clallam County has is part of the problem. If you look at the people who are designated by position to be eligible in these positions you have to wonder where the alternative view is coming from. Something tells me that it's an echo chamber and if that's all the boccc is getting it's no wonder that we have these policies.
When opposing positions are presented they elites attempt to shut them out. Some try to abrogate the 2nd amendment.
They are making good steady progress in both 1A and 2A breaches.🧐
"INFILTRAITION" is the name of the game. See Klaus Schwab's comment on W.E.F's 'infiltration of gov'ts down to the local levels'...it's a 'thing'.😎
Same psycho at the helm. Further disaster awaits!😊
A valuable, informative, and uplifting interview; I look forward to more in the future, Jake! I’m hopeful you’ll make it as commissioner, and I hope you’ll continue to share stories from real people in the community and on the Peninsula.
Thank you, Jeff, for broadcasting these interviews to the people!
I am 100 percent voting for him. I agree with what Chelsey said. instead of the harm reduction act helping it harmed. I believe whoever came up with idea knew what was going to happen. Time to reverse it. I believe we need to stop enabling addicts. That is one of the biggest rules in helping someone in active addiction… do not enable! What does the harm reduction act do…. It enables an addict , so why would they want something different for themselves, when all that it’s doing is feeding there addiction!!!
Simple….THERE IS TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE IN OTHER PEOPLE’S SUFFERING.
Whether the suffering is financial or health there is money tobe made off the millions who are suffering. It is an opportunity to control people with offerings. It is the DEVILS ADVOCATE at work!
The addicted are easy to control.
It seems like they are easy to control with drugs but actually they are not being controlled because they steal, they use, they are free to do whatever they want and their actions are uncontrollable. If they were easy to control we would be putting them to good use not bad…..hope I’m making logical sense?
Yes, logical...but pull back further...they are being used as pawns to control all of us through anger, fear, disgust, outrage, etc. It's not just being 'allowed', it's being 'implemented'. And buckets and barrels of money are being made while tearing down our society...the brilliance of evil.😈
Distraction...addiction, of any kind, is the biggest distraction...'to get no traction', to 'spin our wheels', etc....all by design. It's a tough row!☺️
"The LOVE of MONEY IS the root of all evil!"👿
About the same time I read this article, I came across another about how funding in Portland, Seattle, California, Hawaii and elsewhere for the homeless and drug addicted got hijacked by NGOs for their political aims. Link below.
"The usual faith-based groups — the Salvation Army, St. Vincent de Paul, Rescue Missions — struggle to help individuals who fall on hard times get off the streets. These programs have long been the most successful: they require sobriety and bring God into the lives of people in desperate need. But in 2013, federal funding launched a drive to "End Homelessness in Ten Years," and with it came grant money and unchecked spending."
"Suddenly, every city had a program. And suddenly anti-capitalist extremists got their hands on that money..."
"Discovery Institute and the Capital Research Center have released their dual report on how extremist groups have used homeless funding for their own political aims. It's called "INFILTRATED: The Ideological Capture of Homeless Advocacy."
"Using financial data, legal records, and original research, the report uncovers a vast network of homelessness advocates that spend billions in taxpayer dollars and philanthropic grants on everything but obvious solutions," the report states. Indeed, the obvious issues leading to homelessness, namely drug addictions and mental health problems, aren't addressed in the massive expenditures by these organizations and, in effect, worsen the homeless problem even more."
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but it makes sense.
https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2025/11/16/surprise-heres-where-taxes-to-help-the-homeless-actually-went-n4946050?utm_source=pjmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&bcid=718f45772f9b403a95d0c80d45ee9b99e8a130f2e86bc7c34e41ed102c987a52&lctg=28449138
Thank you for sharing that article, Dale!
Conspiracies are real and they are everywhere...even some positive ones like what Jake and Jeff and others are doing...conspiracies have only been identified as negative things (by CIA) using conspiracy theory to debunk truthers outing evil.
A conspiracy is two or more gathered (putting their heads together)...'breathing together' to formulate a plan of some kind.
Like 'God', 'conspiracy' has been hijacked and inverted, subverted and perverted as a tool of division and fear.
'When everything the American people believe is a lie, we will have accomplished our mission', or words to that effect...spoken by William Casey, CIA director, Reagan years. Conspiracy theories should be considered plausible or probable until proven otherwise...that's how theories are supposed to work, unless they are hijacked.😎
Clearly CC needs to exude a different message rather than an exceptional place for homelessness. Drug paraphernalia delivery? $harps containers as poop buckets? Supplies used and unused litter our county. Free needles so now most inject?? Money from lawsuit judgements from pharma opioid addiction crisis fund much of the harm reduction supplies. So how do settlements from companies that created opioid addicts help our county by funding drug paraphernalia?? Seattles new mayor appears to be a magnet for opportunists. Free stuff! Police bad! Minimal prosecution! Our county will get even more spillover from urban area if we continue our posture of compassion. Like this brave lady explained—when everything is provided; all cash goes to buy drugs.