“I’ve been told you all are not worth my time". But we sure are worth our money every time the tribe takes tax dollars through grants to pay for most everything they do.
They just can't handle opposition. They have no real policy process like the APA which requires a constant review process to justify a policy position. We are used to that she is not. Sruggs makes a mockery of it from her MRC committee chair position liking to post "with Chair consent" for public comment, which is proof positive of Socialism/Communism within our process. That explains why there is less than 40 miles between lower Elwha and Jamestown, because somebody obviously though a chief was full of shit, and there was nothing they could do about it. Same for Kingston.
We would be better off looking for a solution in the middle still bound by the process whereby someone who thinks they are right has a required forum, that is not viewed a "waste of their time" through their retribution lens.
Paula Allen has been told "we" are not worth her time. In other words, "Paula stop posting because you sound like a middle schooler." The Allen family has prestige, prominence, influence, and wealth all thanks to the Federal government and American taxpayers. Where would JKT be eithout a casino and pot shop? John W. Thank you, thank you for never giving up and enduring the weight of this fight. We shall call you Atlas. CC is now aware and able to help with this fight. You have opened our eyes and taught us what was really going on in our County. May God keep you in His care. And thank you, Jeff, for backing JW up at the BoCC meetings with additional facts. What a team!!
Having Suggs on the PA city council is clearly a conflict of interest. It's interesting that such a conflict is acceptable to the citizens of PA given she clearly calls out how she'll misuse her public position?
If Suggs was a similarly higher echelon employee of Walmart, and Walmart was wanting to have favorable business decisions made for their profit in PA over the interests of the citizens, people would rightly come unglued. How is this situation different?
Is nepotism a tribal trait, since time immemorial? What do JST members think about their monarchy using tribal heritage to funnel wealth into their personal pockets?
Of course the JST gave to Kitsap schools, it's how you mold impressionable minds. Has anyone noticed the massive tribal flag hanging alongside the WA state flag in the PA HS auditorium? It's seeding the future to not even think twice about the JST corporate hostile activities.
Plank 10. Free education for all children in government schools.
This is the arguably most important plank furthering the Marxist agenda. Brainwashing young people, especially college, but now also in elementary and high schools.
MK, to partly answer one of your questions, "What do JST members think about their monarchy using tribal heritage to funnel wealth into their personal pockets?"
MK, me too, but he has the monarchy to fight. They hold all the cards including counting the votes and seeing who votes and who they vote for. Just as CCC has used threats against its citizens, the JST members only answer to one "court", their fear is much higher. Expulsion.
MK, IMO it's more like a small wealthy mafia, and Allen is the Godfather. It's hard for the JST out-of-area citizens to organize or voice their opinions because they'll "get an offer they can't refuse"
I hope everyone knows that Sequim is soon to have a JST beholden council member as well. Pete Tjemsland has strong familial ties to the tribe. He is running for his first elected office ever and is running unopposed. Dare I say there is a coordinated effort by the tribe to get their people on local city councils?
They paraded around openly in SERN and NODC, wearing the land acknowledgments on their sleeves and websites. They all but went to a hill top and shouted we are re-negotiating a treaty because "we are in a bad relationship" and we are setting up a "compensation mechanism" to "heal a broken relationship."
Then they left a 14 year trail of doing it. All of that trail is sitting in multiple federal agencies including the U.S. Department of Justice, U.S. Department of Commerce and EPA. I have a complaint number. If I fall like Epstein pick me up by following up on that claim number.
The Department of Commerce (DOC) Office of Inspector General (OIG) has received your correspondence and reviewed the information you provided. We have assigned complaint number 25-1290-H.
After careful consideration, we decided to refer your allegations(s) to management officials at the U.S. Economic Development Administration. We have requested that they conduct a thorough and independent inquiry and provide a response to us, including a detailed explanation of their review process and any corrective action, if any, they take as a result. Upon receipt of their response, we will review it and may seek additional information if necessary. We will notify you when the case is closed.
If you have any new or additional information to add to your complaint, please contact the Hotline at (800) 424-5197 and reference the report number assigned when you initiated the complaint. Please note the Hotline cannot provide any further information on the status of your complaint.
Wow John, I'm impressed you wrote DOC AND OIG AND received a response!
"After careful consideration, we decided to refer your allegations(s) to management officials at the U.S. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. We have requested that they conduct a thorough and independent inquiry and provide a response to us, including a detailed explanation of their review process and any corrective action, if any, they take as a resul"
The ever increasing animosity between JST and non-Tribal Members is being fed by both JST Leaders and Clallam County Leaders. The reasons are for power and the methods are aggressive and destructive. The power comes from who has the most money and backers. Remove the money and backers and vote for people with integrity. Those who can work fairly TOGETHER for the benefit and welfare of Clallam County. There are people out there who aren’t bent on gaining power and wealth. Below are behind the scene instances of unbalanced representation
AN ANNUAL ELDER HONORING? A bit of a stretch. Annual? When did that start as a huge “gala” event for one family? What age are you considered an “Elder”? Where are the other elders in the JST community that deserve recognition and their voices being heard? One such JST candidate, IMO, has bravely stepped forward to challenge his representatives, the same as we are challenging ours.
Tribal Candidate Statement: Member At-Large – Wayne Cope "The reason I would like your vote is the vast majority of the Tribal Citizens live outside the service area, and it’s my opinion that those Citizens are not being treated or being heard. JUST SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT is the Tribe has more than 550 Citizens; HOW MANY OUT-OF-SERVICE AREA PEOPLE ARE ON BOARDS/COMMITTEES? How many PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA ARE ON ONE, TWO OR THREE BOARDS OR COMMITTEES? Is this something the TRIBE WANTS? Well, if so, if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it’s probably crap."
The U.S. campaign finance system unfairly favors a small handful of wealthy donors.
Yes, I also believe this must end badly if not stopped. Have Ozias and Jamestown been asked what the end game is? Seems we have a group intent on ruling and beggaring their neighbors, which exemplifies the cultural war with tribes for 120+ years. One side operating from “love thy neighbor as thyself,” the other not, with exceptions on both sides.
The bigger picture is the power they have is and has been squandered. She allowed the tribe to join an international Charter, illegally outside of the BIA, and jeopardizes tribal status. Then she allowed the tribe to openly participate in a public dismantling of the Point No Point Treaty of 1855 using the United Nations ICLEI "compensation mechanism" they took advantage of the last 14 years.
There is now an investigation, and the Jamestown Tribe is smack dab in the middle of it.
Where are on the verge of civil cases being filed for the first time enforcing non-tribal rights that will have equal to or more in impact than Boldt. Its all because of that attitude she displayed to you.
You are not a waste of her time. You are a reality of non-tribal trying to get rights from a Treaty that was supposed to be given to you. So am I and others here. We do not come from some other place and are not willing to sell out like some of these other people they feed crab cakes to.
They had their reckoning. Now its time to see the other side of Boldt....when a tribe breaks a treaty.
I pray that we get our due cause. I’m tired of our county bowing down to a tribe. We are all equal and no one should get special treatment. They are dividing this county and state. We have all paid our dues, when will this stop. Stay on your own nation and stay out of ours
Agree, but I don’t see where they have a nation. They have a vation, a reservation, which, in my opinion, is just a glorified HOA. The vations were to be their “safe space” where they could adapt to a new approach to life. I don’t believe the vations were supposed to last this long and they need to be closed. Ones behaving like Jamestown harbor a death cult and are a blight on all good Indians that have moved on
Too many Carr's ,Rondeaux's, Stoffer's, Holy's, Mensshoe's and Fisch's coming from some other region with no sense of Pioneer pride whatsoever.. Shame on you Howard Doherty....Chapman..
The Communists and Socialists have corrupted their brains. \
Sooner or later, they will have to listen to the pioneer descendants because their ancestors signed a treaty. We have rights too. They started in 1855...
The Socialist/Communist way is to get power and attack dissent. You are a waste of time in her mind because you dissent to a perceived power over you despite a treaty which is supposed to give you rights not take them away.
Yours is a "overly pessimistic view" as described by The Socialist/Communist doctrines as a means of staying in power. Any form of challenge to their power is an "overly pessimistic view." It can't ever be a better alternative viewpoint even for their own rights.
That is why they hug Blyn and Lower Elwha in Tsunami peril and clog the 3 percent grades. They want to clog the 3 percent grades and get the high ground too, rather than open the 3 percent and 7 percent waterfront grades for non-tribal and tribal public use without permanent structures and just park like amenities. And hold Port Angeles Hostage at Ennis Creek at 5-10 percent grades.
There is a distinct land use formula for our region that makes sense and the 3 percent salmon spawning grades are the foundation for that planning not some treaty breaking. victimization retribution viewpoint.
This is not any form of leadership or stewardship and I could care less if they think my view is overly pessimistic, or whether they have a special right not found in the Point No Point Treaty of 1855. They are wrong on policy and I am right.
As an "outsider"(apparently), and coming from another Democratic party stronghold state with many tribes and pueblos, I find this tribal person's remarks disparaging and even juvenile. I have never been aware of this type of disrespectful and unkind attitude coming from any tribe or pueblo in New Mexico. When I moved here, I admired the Tribe's artwork, their influence on the area and their medical clinic. But I have been deceived. This county is such a disappointment to me.
AFB, I was just like you. I worked for the Indian Health Services in Az. At first I was bragging to my visitors about JST and how proud I was that they had managed their money so well and built such an impressive campus. I was even looking into working at their Women's Health Clinic.
I felt deceived when I found out the real story of "success"
Make your way forward with hard work like the rest of us. No government handouts. If your a “Sovereign Nation”, prove it. Otherwise, I believe the term JST should use is “Welfare Queen”.
Look what they did running Sequim. On the verge of getting sued because they screwed over a developer. That's all because of the checkering that has made a mockery of land use in the area.
The job of our government is to protect the people from elitism .Obviously we don't have that because money has corrupted our democracy with hundreds of millions at federal level and tens millions at the state level with lobby money .Allowing Elites to form having money , special privileges , control over the people allowing a few people to have insane amounts of money through monopolies that siphon off the public .Because the political elites are allowing it not enforcing the laws . Why America was created in the first place to escape that system of old Europe with the king and the noble class and the rest the peasants working the land to serve them . Now today in Europe countries hey have strict laws like in the Netherlands on money in politics ,People there also have more social awareness because the countries are more densely populated people have to live together cohabit .to do what is good for the all not just a few ..Which is something Americans have forgotten even though we are supposed to be a country founded on God ? We are not following the Golden Rule.doing unto others as you would have them do unto you we are the Divided States of America by following the Blind Leaders .This election there are lots of problems that need to be addressed n this city ,county and voting for the same people over and over and expecting different results what did Einstein say ?
Just sitting here wondering... there is talk of how the ancestral tribes took good care of their lands, and want to continue that nowdays. Please tell me how, or why, where, when, they took "care" of the land they lived on around here or anywhere? Was there a need to help the salmon, use forest products conservatively, manage the streams and shorelines? A scientific approach is needed now more than ever. And where does BIA money come from, IRS collections?
So my taxes are used to provide grant money to all tribal contributions to Community and Sovereign activities, right? Not saying good or bad, just so that all those donations from Tribes are clearly documented as to their source. Personally, i love to know that my earned and paid taxes are used for something good to benefit others, (like Medicaid, for example)
Jean, proof that the land was tended and cared for in our American history:
John Chapman (September 26, 1774 – March 18, 1845), better known as Johnny Appleseed, was an American pioneer nurseryman who introduced trees grown with apple seeds (as opposed to trees grown with grafting) to large parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and the Canadian province of Ontario, as well as the northern counties of West Virginia. He became an American icon while still alive, due to his kind, generous ways, his leadership in conservation, and the symbolic importance that he attributed to apples. He was the inspiration for many museums and historical sites such as the Johnny Appleseed Museum in Urbana, Ohio.
I wss talking about ancestral Tribal actions that showed care of the land. Not americans in general. They claim to be ancient caretakers and therefore are the best for the job nowdays.
Don, exactly! Why can't people see that? The tribes "abused" the land just as they are accusing us of, and then moved on until that land ran out of resources again, again and again.
They messed up not protecting the 3 percent salmon spawning grades. Any claims of leadership are nil after you look at their decision to ignore Jimmycomelately science in favor of riparian science and fish culverts to grades 5 percent and up. That was their chance to put their stewardship mouth where their money is. Only when its on their terms under tsunami threat will they think about proper relocation to the foothills with normal business loops off a real freeway...instead of an endless retail corridor masquerading as a freight corridor at 15-20 MPH and roundabouts.
Jean, Like you, I cannot find facts nor history of ancient caretakers much less present caretakers. But I can find facts that support that you don't have to have a certain DNA to know how to manage resources. Roosevelt's Civil Conservation Corps cleared and built many of our state and national parks we enjoy today, to which the Tribes believe they should run because of some inbred super powers.
America is supposed to be a melting pot where many different people from different cultures come together and put aside our differences and live together .Its a huge place big enough for everyone ,but there are some bad people in all cultures. The Elites in those times wanted the minerals gold etc.. on the lands the tribes where on so they pushed to have them removed . The tribe shamans who were into voodoo got the tribes to fight the settlers instead of living with the settlers peacefully .The tribes before any settlers came here were fighting among themselves over resources because they were hunter gathers not evolving as a people were from Europe with farming practices., but the tribes where more in tuned with the land so they helped the early settlers survive so everybody grows by coming together and being more and we all become less my being divided by petty politics by Elites to control the people.
Key examples of Indigenous sustainable resource management include:
Salmon management: Long-term studies of salmon fishing in the Pacific Northwest show that tribes managed this common resource sustainably for thousands of years. Social institutions and beliefs, such as ownership of fishing sites and restrictions on use, were more significant to salmon resilience than population size or predator control. Elaborate wooden fish weirs, which were used to regulate harvest, have been discovered and date back thousands of years.
Clam gardens: Archaeological evidence of millennia-old clam gardens on the Northwest coast demonstrates that Indigenous peoples intentionally altered tidal habitats to increase clam productivity. These rock-walled features, along with tending practices, could double the yield of clams.
Forest management: Traditional cedar harvesting practices involved taking bark in strips from live trees rather than felling them, ensuring the tree's survival. Evidence of these harvests can be seen in culturally modified trees with scars that are thousands of years old. Controlled cultural burns were also used to manage forests and encourage food plants.
Shell middens: Research on large, ancient shell mounds, created by the harvesting of shellfish, shows that Indigenous communities sustainably managed these fisheries for hundreds or thousands of years. Unlike post-contact fisheries, these long-term harvests did not result in ecological collapse.
This long history of sustainable practices has significantly informed modern resource management efforts. Today, tribes in Northwestern Washington work to re-establish and expand their traditional stewardship roles in areas like forest and fisheries co-management, using traditional knowledge to restore and protect the environment.
Mimi, and consider gill netting at the mouth of rivers. This is not allowed in Alaska. ALL the fishermen are required to stay back a certain distance from the mouth of rivers so that a certain percentage of salmon "escape" and get to spawn. An active count is done on the rivers daily, if the salmon swimming into the rivers has a low count ALL commercial fishing stops...unlike here, the Tribes are allowed to continue fishing at the mouth of rivers, and beyond. Who is then responsible for the low numbers?
AFB, given enough money, anyone can take the title of stewardship. No management is needed when there is an abundance of resources. (large, ancient shell mounds only prove there was an ample food source) Given an overflow of population vs resources is when the resources need to be managed, not that they were somehow sustainably managed in the past when there was no need. I wonder who wrote that article?
Yes. This is from Google AI so this is an example of how theories and opinions are given prominence over actual facts. Contributors are: Western Washington University. Seattle Times. Coastal Review - the oysters 'factoid.' National Park Services. The Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. and more.
The standard these days is for a fact gatherer to refer to opinion pieces in order to establish fact. No one questions it, and as such anything that is vomitted becomes truth.
Thank you AFB, Western Washington University has bent the knee along with the others. When you see TIME IMMEMORIAL it is taken from a "standard" form that is adjusted a little and filled in.
Tribal Lands Statement
For official university functions, following is a SUGGESTED TRIBAL LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, tailored by location, TO USE IN ALL OPENING REMARKS.
I would like to begin by acknowledging that we gather today on the ancestral homelands of the Coast Salish Peoples, who have lived in the Salish Sea basin, throughout the San Juan Islands and the North Cascades watershed, from TIME IMMEMORIAL. Please join me in expressing our deepest respect and gratitude for our Indigenous neighbors, the Lummi Nation and Nooksack Tribe, for their enduring care and protection of our shared lands and waterways.
Bellingham: Lummi Nation and the Nooksack Tribe Anacortes: Samish Indian Nation and the Swinomish Indian Tribal Community Everett: Tulalip Tribes, the Snohomish, the Stillaguamish Tribe and the Sauk-Suiattle Tribe
Kitsap Peninsula: Suquamish Tribe and the Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe
Olympic Peninsula: The Hoh Tribe, Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe, Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe, Makah Indian Tribe, Quileute Tribe, Quinault Indian Nation, Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe and the Skokomish Tribe. Seattle: Duwamish, Suquamish, Nisqually, Snoqualmie and Muckleshoot tribes.
There it is! That short policy statement that says it all:
Protecting the Elwha watershed may be admirable, but for most residents, the crisis isn’t in the forest — it’s in the economy, housing, and public safety.
ECONOMY HOUSING SAFETY
That's the win to get us out of this despicable hole.
Imagine a world where all politicians have equal time to get their positions communicated to the public, where elections are not bought, where money does not reign. <sigh>
Anyone who could see both candidates equally, would likely choose the best one, but we live in a mercenary world where money rules everything, and corruption abounds.
Why we have to start grass roots political parties that aren't ruled by money where people serve just one term..We have the majority and the Elites know it why they divide up the people with their media on every issue so the people aren't united and overthrow their rule .
“I’ve been told you all are not worth my time". But we sure are worth our money every time the tribe takes tax dollars through grants to pay for most everything they do.
Well I've been told a few things as well Paula Allen....
They just can't handle opposition. They have no real policy process like the APA which requires a constant review process to justify a policy position. We are used to that she is not. Sruggs makes a mockery of it from her MRC committee chair position liking to post "with Chair consent" for public comment, which is proof positive of Socialism/Communism within our process. That explains why there is less than 40 miles between lower Elwha and Jamestown, because somebody obviously though a chief was full of shit, and there was nothing they could do about it. Same for Kingston.
We would be better off looking for a solution in the middle still bound by the process whereby someone who thinks they are right has a required forum, that is not viewed a "waste of their time" through their retribution lens.
Paula Allen has been told "we" are not worth her time. In other words, "Paula stop posting because you sound like a middle schooler." The Allen family has prestige, prominence, influence, and wealth all thanks to the Federal government and American taxpayers. Where would JKT be eithout a casino and pot shop? John W. Thank you, thank you for never giving up and enduring the weight of this fight. We shall call you Atlas. CC is now aware and able to help with this fight. You have opened our eyes and taught us what was really going on in our County. May God keep you in His care. And thank you, Jeff, for backing JW up at the BoCC meetings with additional facts. What a team!!
Denise, John Worthington and Jeff have taught me so much! I've learned the value of research.
I really appreciate how much you research and share with the CCWD family. Thank you!
Denise, thank you! All of this because one guy made us a family.
Having Suggs on the PA city council is clearly a conflict of interest. It's interesting that such a conflict is acceptable to the citizens of PA given she clearly calls out how she'll misuse her public position?
If Suggs was a similarly higher echelon employee of Walmart, and Walmart was wanting to have favorable business decisions made for their profit in PA over the interests of the citizens, people would rightly come unglued. How is this situation different?
Is nepotism a tribal trait, since time immemorial? What do JST members think about their monarchy using tribal heritage to funnel wealth into their personal pockets?
Of course the JST gave to Kitsap schools, it's how you mold impressionable minds. Has anyone noticed the massive tribal flag hanging alongside the WA state flag in the PA HS auditorium? It's seeding the future to not even think twice about the JST corporate hostile activities.
This conflict of interest and admitted misuse should be all that a sane populace needs to vote for her opponent. If only they all knew.
Keep up the dissemination of news and facts, that PDN won't, Jeff! You are invaluable for educating the public.
PA is the same lyric since she and Lindsey have been there.
Rundown ghost town, any kind of drug
No sign of life - just wild dogs howlin' in the night
Rundown ghost town, any kind of drug
No sign of life - just wild dogs howlin' in the night
The local federal investigations can't happen fast enough.
Plank 10. Free education for all children in government schools.
This is the arguably most important plank furthering the Marxist agenda. Brainwashing young people, especially college, but now also in elementary and high schools.
MK, to partly answer one of your questions, "What do JST members think about their monarchy using tribal heritage to funnel wealth into their personal pockets?"
https://jamestowntribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Oct-2025-Tribal-newsletter-DIGITAL-reduced.pdf Page 7
I hope that the JST people wake up and vote for Mr. Cope.
MK, me too, but he has the monarchy to fight. They hold all the cards including counting the votes and seeing who votes and who they vote for. Just as CCC has used threats against its citizens, the JST members only answer to one "court", their fear is much higher. Expulsion.
Their defining moment, are the JST people truly strong, or weak and beholden to their monarchy?
MK, IMO it's more like a small wealthy mafia, and Allen is the Godfather. It's hard for the JST out-of-area citizens to organize or voice their opinions because they'll "get an offer they can't refuse"
I hope everyone knows that Sequim is soon to have a JST beholden council member as well. Pete Tjemsland has strong familial ties to the tribe. He is running for his first elected office ever and is running unopposed. Dare I say there is a coordinated effort by the tribe to get their people on local city councils?
It's more of the same, another appointed member like others. It's voter disenfranchisement.
Why not give to Clallam County where they suck the life out of the residents instead of a County where they have no footprint?
I wonder how the Allen family feels about Latrisha promoting NoKings protests on her FB page. Is she that dense that she does not see the irony?
Imagine gathering all that energy spent with posters, phone calls, wardrobe takes, and oxygen tanks... for rallies and tantrums.
Wow. Waisted energy and human resources.
Imagine what we could do in the middle of town with the JC Penny building...
A bowling alley for family.
Oh what fun.
But no.
Nope.
What does this have to do with Patricia... ?
I guess my point was..
We need to Stop with the ridiculous rallies of unquestionable bad narratives' and hate.
All together.
Enough Drama.
Hollywood is Dead.
end of rant.
Once again the arrogance and personal agendas are taking precedence over the general welfare of the city and it's majority taxpayers!
They paraded around openly in SERN and NODC, wearing the land acknowledgments on their sleeves and websites. They all but went to a hill top and shouted we are re-negotiating a treaty because "we are in a bad relationship" and we are setting up a "compensation mechanism" to "heal a broken relationship."
Then they left a 14 year trail of doing it. All of that trail is sitting in multiple federal agencies including the U.S. Department of Justice, U.S. Department of Commerce and EPA. I have a complaint number. If I fall like Epstein pick me up by following up on that claim number.
The Department of Commerce (DOC) Office of Inspector General (OIG) has received your correspondence and reviewed the information you provided. We have assigned complaint number 25-1290-H.
After careful consideration, we decided to refer your allegations(s) to management officials at the U.S. Economic Development Administration. We have requested that they conduct a thorough and independent inquiry and provide a response to us, including a detailed explanation of their review process and any corrective action, if any, they take as a result. Upon receipt of their response, we will review it and may seek additional information if necessary. We will notify you when the case is closed.
If you have any new or additional information to add to your complaint, please contact the Hotline at (800) 424-5197 and reference the report number assigned when you initiated the complaint. Please note the Hotline cannot provide any further information on the status of your complaint.
Thank you.
Compliance and Ethics Staff
Office of Inspector General
Wow John, I'm impressed you wrote DOC AND OIG AND received a response!
"After careful consideration, we decided to refer your allegations(s) to management officials at the U.S. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. We have requested that they conduct a thorough and independent inquiry and provide a response to us, including a detailed explanation of their review process and any corrective action, if any, they take as a resul"
They (Republicans) have been looking for reasons to shit can NOAA, EPA and FEMA. I gave them a box full of reasons to grind those agencies up to bits.
Nick and I are on the research wagon.
Thanks John.
I was looking for this...
Thank you John !
THIS NEEDS TO END BEFORE EVERYONE LOSES
The ever increasing animosity between JST and non-Tribal Members is being fed by both JST Leaders and Clallam County Leaders. The reasons are for power and the methods are aggressive and destructive. The power comes from who has the most money and backers. Remove the money and backers and vote for people with integrity. Those who can work fairly TOGETHER for the benefit and welfare of Clallam County. There are people out there who aren’t bent on gaining power and wealth. Below are behind the scene instances of unbalanced representation
https://jamestowntribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Sept-2025-Tribal-newsletter-DIGITAL-UPDATED-.pdf Pages 4-9
AN ANNUAL ELDER HONORING? A bit of a stretch. Annual? When did that start as a huge “gala” event for one family? What age are you considered an “Elder”? Where are the other elders in the JST community that deserve recognition and their voices being heard? One such JST candidate, IMO, has bravely stepped forward to challenge his representatives, the same as we are challenging ours.
https://jamestowntribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Oct-2025-Tribal-newsletter-DIGITAL-reduced.pdf Page 7
Tribal Candidate Statement: Member At-Large – Wayne Cope "The reason I would like your vote is the vast majority of the Tribal Citizens live outside the service area, and it’s my opinion that those Citizens are not being treated or being heard. JUST SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT is the Tribe has more than 550 Citizens; HOW MANY OUT-OF-SERVICE AREA PEOPLE ARE ON BOARDS/COMMITTEES? How many PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA ARE ON ONE, TWO OR THREE BOARDS OR COMMITTEES? Is this something the TRIBE WANTS? Well, if so, if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it’s probably crap."
The U.S. campaign finance system unfairly favors a small handful of wealthy donors.
Informed citizens are democracy’s best defense
Yes, I also believe this must end badly if not stopped. Have Ozias and Jamestown been asked what the end game is? Seems we have a group intent on ruling and beggaring their neighbors, which exemplifies the cultural war with tribes for 120+ years. One side operating from “love thy neighbor as thyself,” the other not, with exceptions on both sides.
The bigger picture is the power they have is and has been squandered. She allowed the tribe to join an international Charter, illegally outside of the BIA, and jeopardizes tribal status. Then she allowed the tribe to openly participate in a public dismantling of the Point No Point Treaty of 1855 using the United Nations ICLEI "compensation mechanism" they took advantage of the last 14 years.
There is now an investigation, and the Jamestown Tribe is smack dab in the middle of it.
Where are on the verge of civil cases being filed for the first time enforcing non-tribal rights that will have equal to or more in impact than Boldt. Its all because of that attitude she displayed to you.
You are not a waste of her time. You are a reality of non-tribal trying to get rights from a Treaty that was supposed to be given to you. So am I and others here. We do not come from some other place and are not willing to sell out like some of these other people they feed crab cakes to.
They had their reckoning. Now its time to see the other side of Boldt....when a tribe breaks a treaty.
I pray that we get our due cause. I’m tired of our county bowing down to a tribe. We are all equal and no one should get special treatment. They are dividing this county and state. We have all paid our dues, when will this stop. Stay on your own nation and stay out of ours
Agree, but I don’t see where they have a nation. They have a vation, a reservation, which, in my opinion, is just a glorified HOA. The vations were to be their “safe space” where they could adapt to a new approach to life. I don’t believe the vations were supposed to last this long and they need to be closed. Ones behaving like Jamestown harbor a death cult and are a blight on all good Indians that have moved on
Too many Carr's ,Rondeaux's, Stoffer's, Holy's, Mensshoe's and Fisch's coming from some other region with no sense of Pioneer pride whatsoever.. Shame on you Howard Doherty....Chapman..
The Communists and Socialists have corrupted their brains. \
Sooner or later, they will have to listen to the pioneer descendants because their ancestors signed a treaty. We have rights too. They started in 1855...
The Socialist/Communist way is to get power and attack dissent. You are a waste of time in her mind because you dissent to a perceived power over you despite a treaty which is supposed to give you rights not take them away.
Yours is a "overly pessimistic view" as described by The Socialist/Communist doctrines as a means of staying in power. Any form of challenge to their power is an "overly pessimistic view." It can't ever be a better alternative viewpoint even for their own rights.
That is why they hug Blyn and Lower Elwha in Tsunami peril and clog the 3 percent grades. They want to clog the 3 percent grades and get the high ground too, rather than open the 3 percent and 7 percent waterfront grades for non-tribal and tribal public use without permanent structures and just park like amenities. And hold Port Angeles Hostage at Ennis Creek at 5-10 percent grades.
There is a distinct land use formula for our region that makes sense and the 3 percent salmon spawning grades are the foundation for that planning not some treaty breaking. victimization retribution viewpoint.
This is not any form of leadership or stewardship and I could care less if they think my view is overly pessimistic, or whether they have a special right not found in the Point No Point Treaty of 1855. They are wrong on policy and I am right.
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As an "outsider"(apparently), and coming from another Democratic party stronghold state with many tribes and pueblos, I find this tribal person's remarks disparaging and even juvenile. I have never been aware of this type of disrespectful and unkind attitude coming from any tribe or pueblo in New Mexico. When I moved here, I admired the Tribe's artwork, their influence on the area and their medical clinic. But I have been deceived. This county is such a disappointment to me.
AMEN! Other states look better by the day.
AFB, I was just like you. I worked for the Indian Health Services in Az. At first I was bragging to my visitors about JST and how proud I was that they had managed their money so well and built such an impressive campus. I was even looking into working at their Women's Health Clinic.
I felt deceived when I found out the real story of "success"
There was no way we would've known about this unless we lived here for awhile. But let's just say, it was a very expensive mistake.
Then go back home!
Mac, What? Please explain.
Sovereign nation? Making political donations? Where is the furor like we saw with "Russia-gate?
Political donations from a foreign sovereign nation should be illegal, are they not? Or can China influence our elections with impunity? JKT?
Make your way forward with hard work like the rest of us. No government handouts. If your a “Sovereign Nation”, prove it. Otherwise, I believe the term JST should use is “Welfare Queen”.
Look what they did running Sequim. On the verge of getting sued because they screwed over a developer. That's all because of the checkering that has made a mockery of land use in the area.
They deserve getting sued, they thought they could play with the big boys. Look at what happened to Cle Elum, it’s coming Sequim
The job of our government is to protect the people from elitism .Obviously we don't have that because money has corrupted our democracy with hundreds of millions at federal level and tens millions at the state level with lobby money .Allowing Elites to form having money , special privileges , control over the people allowing a few people to have insane amounts of money through monopolies that siphon off the public .Because the political elites are allowing it not enforcing the laws . Why America was created in the first place to escape that system of old Europe with the king and the noble class and the rest the peasants working the land to serve them . Now today in Europe countries hey have strict laws like in the Netherlands on money in politics ,People there also have more social awareness because the countries are more densely populated people have to live together cohabit .to do what is good for the all not just a few ..Which is something Americans have forgotten even though we are supposed to be a country founded on God ? We are not following the Golden Rule.doing unto others as you would have them do unto you we are the Divided States of America by following the Blind Leaders .This election there are lots of problems that need to be addressed n this city ,county and voting for the same people over and over and expecting different results what did Einstein say ?
Just sitting here wondering... there is talk of how the ancestral tribes took good care of their lands, and want to continue that nowdays. Please tell me how, or why, where, when, they took "care" of the land they lived on around here or anywhere? Was there a need to help the salmon, use forest products conservatively, manage the streams and shorelines? A scientific approach is needed now more than ever. And where does BIA money come from, IRS collections?
Yes, BIA money comes from our IRS taxes. In addition, JKT gets money from local and state taxes. Whether we like it or not.
So my taxes are used to provide grant money to all tribal contributions to Community and Sovereign activities, right? Not saying good or bad, just so that all those donations from Tribes are clearly documented as to their source. Personally, i love to know that my earned and paid taxes are used for something good to benefit others, (like Medicaid, for example)
Trillions since 1855.
Jean, proof that the land was tended and cared for in our American history:
John Chapman (September 26, 1774 – March 18, 1845), better known as Johnny Appleseed, was an American pioneer nurseryman who introduced trees grown with apple seeds (as opposed to trees grown with grafting) to large parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and the Canadian province of Ontario, as well as the northern counties of West Virginia. He became an American icon while still alive, due to his kind, generous ways, his leadership in conservation, and the symbolic importance that he attributed to apples. He was the inspiration for many museums and historical sites such as the Johnny Appleseed Museum in Urbana, Ohio.
Don't forget Pres.Theodore Roosevelt...
I wss talking about ancestral Tribal actions that showed care of the land. Not americans in general. They claim to be ancient caretakers and therefore are the best for the job nowdays.
Using up the resources and moving to a new area is not caring for the land.
Don, exactly! Why can't people see that? The tribes "abused" the land just as they are accusing us of, and then moved on until that land ran out of resources again, again and again.
They messed up not protecting the 3 percent salmon spawning grades. Any claims of leadership are nil after you look at their decision to ignore Jimmycomelately science in favor of riparian science and fish culverts to grades 5 percent and up. That was their chance to put their stewardship mouth where their money is. Only when its on their terms under tsunami threat will they think about proper relocation to the foothills with normal business loops off a real freeway...instead of an endless retail corridor masquerading as a freight corridor at 15-20 MPH and roundabouts.
Jean, Like you, I cannot find facts nor history of ancient caretakers much less present caretakers. But I can find facts that support that you don't have to have a certain DNA to know how to manage resources. Roosevelt's Civil Conservation Corps cleared and built many of our state and national parks we enjoy today, to which the Tribes believe they should run because of some inbred super powers.
OK yes. so sorry I got on wrong track...
Theodore did help too.
He was also a preacher .
America is supposed to be a melting pot where many different people from different cultures come together and put aside our differences and live together .Its a huge place big enough for everyone ,but there are some bad people in all cultures. The Elites in those times wanted the minerals gold etc.. on the lands the tribes where on so they pushed to have them removed . The tribe shamans who were into voodoo got the tribes to fight the settlers instead of living with the settlers peacefully .The tribes before any settlers came here were fighting among themselves over resources because they were hunter gathers not evolving as a people were from Europe with farming practices., but the tribes where more in tuned with the land so they helped the early settlers survive so everybody grows by coming together and being more and we all become less my being divided by petty politics by Elites to control the people.
the "fondue pot" was the old way, the new way is to divide us up and make us fight
Mimi, and it's working out quite nicely isn't it? We all lose.
Divide and Conquer, they say.
Key examples of Indigenous sustainable resource management include:
Salmon management: Long-term studies of salmon fishing in the Pacific Northwest show that tribes managed this common resource sustainably for thousands of years. Social institutions and beliefs, such as ownership of fishing sites and restrictions on use, were more significant to salmon resilience than population size or predator control. Elaborate wooden fish weirs, which were used to regulate harvest, have been discovered and date back thousands of years.
Clam gardens: Archaeological evidence of millennia-old clam gardens on the Northwest coast demonstrates that Indigenous peoples intentionally altered tidal habitats to increase clam productivity. These rock-walled features, along with tending practices, could double the yield of clams.
Forest management: Traditional cedar harvesting practices involved taking bark in strips from live trees rather than felling them, ensuring the tree's survival. Evidence of these harvests can be seen in culturally modified trees with scars that are thousands of years old. Controlled cultural burns were also used to manage forests and encourage food plants.
Shell middens: Research on large, ancient shell mounds, created by the harvesting of shellfish, shows that Indigenous communities sustainably managed these fisheries for hundreds or thousands of years. Unlike post-contact fisheries, these long-term harvests did not result in ecological collapse.
This long history of sustainable practices has significantly informed modern resource management efforts. Today, tribes in Northwestern Washington work to re-establish and expand their traditional stewardship roles in areas like forest and fisheries co-management, using traditional knowledge to restore and protect the environment.
two words come to mind: gill-netting.
ooh, right!
Mimi, and consider gill netting at the mouth of rivers. This is not allowed in Alaska. ALL the fishermen are required to stay back a certain distance from the mouth of rivers so that a certain percentage of salmon "escape" and get to spawn. An active count is done on the rivers daily, if the salmon swimming into the rivers has a low count ALL commercial fishing stops...unlike here, the Tribes are allowed to continue fishing at the mouth of rivers, and beyond. Who is then responsible for the low numbers?
AFB, given enough money, anyone can take the title of stewardship. No management is needed when there is an abundance of resources. (large, ancient shell mounds only prove there was an ample food source) Given an overflow of population vs resources is when the resources need to be managed, not that they were somehow sustainably managed in the past when there was no need. I wonder who wrote that article?
Yes. This is from Google AI so this is an example of how theories and opinions are given prominence over actual facts. Contributors are: Western Washington University. Seattle Times. Coastal Review - the oysters 'factoid.' National Park Services. The Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. and more.
The standard these days is for a fact gatherer to refer to opinion pieces in order to establish fact. No one questions it, and as such anything that is vomitted becomes truth.
It's like talking to a 13 year old.
Thank you AFB, Western Washington University has bent the knee along with the others. When you see TIME IMMEMORIAL it is taken from a "standard" form that is adjusted a little and filled in.
Tribal Lands Statement
For official university functions, following is a SUGGESTED TRIBAL LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, tailored by location, TO USE IN ALL OPENING REMARKS.
I would like to begin by acknowledging that we gather today on the ancestral homelands of the Coast Salish Peoples, who have lived in the Salish Sea basin, throughout the San Juan Islands and the North Cascades watershed, from TIME IMMEMORIAL. Please join me in expressing our deepest respect and gratitude for our Indigenous neighbors, the Lummi Nation and Nooksack Tribe, for their enduring care and protection of our shared lands and waterways.
Bellingham: Lummi Nation and the Nooksack Tribe Anacortes: Samish Indian Nation and the Swinomish Indian Tribal Community Everett: Tulalip Tribes, the Snohomish, the Stillaguamish Tribe and the Sauk-Suiattle Tribe
Kitsap Peninsula: Suquamish Tribe and the Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe
Olympic Peninsula: The Hoh Tribe, Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe, Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe, Makah Indian Tribe, Quileute Tribe, Quinault Indian Nation, Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe and the Skokomish Tribe. Seattle: Duwamish, Suquamish, Nisqually, Snoqualmie and Muckleshoot tribes.
It's all neatly tied up into one big conglomerate. Too bad. "Suggested"
There it is! That short policy statement that says it all:
Protecting the Elwha watershed may be admirable, but for most residents, the crisis isn’t in the forest — it’s in the economy, housing, and public safety.
ECONOMY HOUSING SAFETY
That's the win to get us out of this despicable hole.
Imagine a world where all politicians have equal time to get their positions communicated to the public, where elections are not bought, where money does not reign. <sigh>
Anyone who could see both candidates equally, would likely choose the best one, but we live in a mercenary world where money rules everything, and corruption abounds.
Why we have to start grass roots political parties that aren't ruled by money where people serve just one term..We have the majority and the Elites know it why they divide up the people with their media on every issue so the people aren't united and overthrow their rule .