“Harm reduction has become harm promotion when it abandons prevention, treatment, and recovery.” — Dr. Kevin Sabet
Those who become addicted can only find help curing the addiction by abstinence. More Drugs only helps the producers and sellers of drugs. Seek counseling.
I read the transcript twice. Plethora of information I needed to break it down with a second reading. I cherry picked words and sentences that jumped out at me. Separated them into the positive and negative. It then made sense, the 12 step program has been proven to work, the harm reduction program hasn’t. The MAT type clinics not only attracts addicts but also tethers them to their programs along with concentrating addiction. The AA program is world wide, free and non addicting. Thank you Ron and Jake.
ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS PROGRAM ...You've got a little bit of structure in your life...Maybe you've got some discipline...you've done in your 12-step recovery program...in an abstinence-based recovery model...AA meetings, service work...big book of Alcoholics Anonymous, It's not whether or not to help, but when and how to help...I really believe in abstinence-based recovery...it has to be abstinence-based...I had to take AA and shove it up my ass to get clean and sober, that's what I would have done...They've got to be so desperate and so uncomfortable that they change...There's some camaraderie.
HARM REDUCTION PROGRAM...what was in the bags... drug kits...methamphetamine pipe...crack pipe... glass tube for snorting ...instructions on how to snort...interested in the suboxone program...interested in a methadone program...heroin withdrawals won't kill you. Methadone withdrawals will kill you...You still have an addict that needs a fix...Or you've cross-addicted them...They look at that as sobriety...I'm now addicted to a pharmaceutical substance that I'm being told is perfectly okay and perfectly legal and perfectly beneficial to my recovery...you don't get an addict into recovery by making them more comfortable...So now you're providing them with all of their necessities...just holds them up off the bottom, keeps them comfortable...Substance use halts your emotional growth...Because you're forced to be in abstinence...you're taking ownership
HOMELESS PROGRAMS...we're writing a $3,500 check to a drug dealer...If you don't have checks and balances, there's a lot of abuse...it's easy to panhandle and generate some funds in this area...because they don't offer the services over there that we offer over here...So the word goes out...It's not a bad place to be homeless...Nobody's going to bother you...If I was at the height of my addiction in the current set of circumstances, I would be dead...We got conned...I'm a firm believer in the confinement thing...treatment after that period of confinement, the information stuck.
Yes, Ron, congratulations on many fronts, sobriety is everything & your testimony will help others.
The onion is being peeled back layer after layer……exposure & eyeballs are getting reaction & attention, it is so needed!
Yes Clallam County is defective, Clallam County is dysfunctional, Clallam County is suffering from numerous ailments. Our government creates urban guettos to justify their needed services……it has been happening for years. Create a crisis, create a catastrophe & government will be there to support recovery, yeah Right!
This new philosophy of harm reduction is “new”. It goes against the grain of successful past proven recovery programs. Is this another government opportunity to offer support & a way to keep a crisis going & growing?
Thank you for focus on Mark Hodgson who btw heads up the Indivisible movement locally.
Amazing story . . wishing Ron Davis continued strength and happiness in life. Peace be with you!
Congratulations Ron Davis..Its not easy. Good job.
“Harm reduction has become harm promotion when it abandons prevention, treatment, and recovery.” — Dr. Kevin Sabet
Those who become addicted can only find help curing the addiction by abstinence. More Drugs only helps the producers and sellers of drugs. Seek counseling.
He Beat Addiction Without Harm Reduction
I read the transcript twice. Plethora of information I needed to break it down with a second reading. I cherry picked words and sentences that jumped out at me. Separated them into the positive and negative. It then made sense, the 12 step program has been proven to work, the harm reduction program hasn’t. The MAT type clinics not only attracts addicts but also tethers them to their programs along with concentrating addiction. The AA program is world wide, free and non addicting. Thank you Ron and Jake.
ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS PROGRAM ...You've got a little bit of structure in your life...Maybe you've got some discipline...you've done in your 12-step recovery program...in an abstinence-based recovery model...AA meetings, service work...big book of Alcoholics Anonymous, It's not whether or not to help, but when and how to help...I really believe in abstinence-based recovery...it has to be abstinence-based...I had to take AA and shove it up my ass to get clean and sober, that's what I would have done...They've got to be so desperate and so uncomfortable that they change...There's some camaraderie.
HARM REDUCTION PROGRAM...what was in the bags... drug kits...methamphetamine pipe...crack pipe... glass tube for snorting ...instructions on how to snort...interested in the suboxone program...interested in a methadone program...heroin withdrawals won't kill you. Methadone withdrawals will kill you...You still have an addict that needs a fix...Or you've cross-addicted them...They look at that as sobriety...I'm now addicted to a pharmaceutical substance that I'm being told is perfectly okay and perfectly legal and perfectly beneficial to my recovery...you don't get an addict into recovery by making them more comfortable...So now you're providing them with all of their necessities...just holds them up off the bottom, keeps them comfortable...Substance use halts your emotional growth...Because you're forced to be in abstinence...you're taking ownership
HOMELESS PROGRAMS...we're writing a $3,500 check to a drug dealer...If you don't have checks and balances, there's a lot of abuse...it's easy to panhandle and generate some funds in this area...because they don't offer the services over there that we offer over here...So the word goes out...It's not a bad place to be homeless...Nobody's going to bother you...If I was at the height of my addiction in the current set of circumstances, I would be dead...We got conned...I'm a firm believer in the confinement thing...treatment after that period of confinement, the information stuck.
Yes, Ron, congratulations on many fronts, sobriety is everything & your testimony will help others.
The onion is being peeled back layer after layer……exposure & eyeballs are getting reaction & attention, it is so needed!
Yes Clallam County is defective, Clallam County is dysfunctional, Clallam County is suffering from numerous ailments. Our government creates urban guettos to justify their needed services……it has been happening for years. Create a crisis, create a catastrophe & government will be there to support recovery, yeah Right!
This new philosophy of harm reduction is “new”. It goes against the grain of successful past proven recovery programs. Is this another government opportunity to offer support & a way to keep a crisis going & growing?
Thank you for focus on Mark Hodgson who btw heads up the Indivisible movement locally.