Just an observation for those who don't want legacy forests harvested, as they have been so designated for decades; 1), Are you willing to personally make up the difference in lost tax revenue not harvesting the trees would provide? If not, are you willing to see the governmental services this revenue funds be reduced accordingly? And my favorite, 2), Do you use toilet paper? If so, what's your alternative?
As for the ongoing personal attacks on Jeff and Jake - which are shameful - they are but a symptom of a not-so-small fanatical group of so-called "progressives" in Clallam County whose minds are made up, and who believe that bigger government funded by somebody else's money is the answer to all of society's problems. Those of us who believe the opposite is true, and who believe in governmental accountability and transparency at every level, must remember that at election time this group will turn out to vote in big numbers. The result will hinge in no small measure on the turnout from the small government side. It's up to all of us to make sure that friends and family vote.
I have often wondered, thought actually, that the silent majority should just stay silent until the day they vote. Knowing there's so much interest in an election draws out the opposition.
The entire PDC language shows how confused they are. My guess is that Potty Mouth Pickett has convinced them of something that they have never seen before or can appreciate. I'm thinking that the disclaimer should be something closer, “This content sponsored without cost in support of Jake Seegers for Commissioner?"
The hypocrisy of the Clallam County Democrats statement immediately jumped out at me, but this seems to be the way I've seen them operate on their FB group.
Just a reminder that in the recent NYC elections only 7% of the eligible voters turned out to vote. 93% didn't think the elections were all that important. Look at the result.
This political crap they are throwing at CCWD and Jeff is ludicrous. They can not fight with how they would make CC better only try to thwart the momentum that has them worried. Keep up the good work and win the election so we have a better community.
I really hate the legal crap being slung! However regarding the suit, perhaps in taking it to court, perhaps the discovery phase (can one do that in a lawsuit ?) would shed the light on the ludicrous claims…. Then sue them for damages and false claims
We can thank Jim Buck for remaining focused on this issue. To expand on this topic: those trees do not magically appear as usable products. Besides providing income for various government entities and trusts. In my mind the process produces something far more important JOBS. The list of items and people it takes to move that timber from stump to manufactures is large. All of which takes people W0RKING. In my simple mind there is nothing that would solve more social problems than adequate employment.
Some of us are tired of the same old line. We are tired of the forest and wildfire smoke. We are tired of watching trees burn when they have so many beneficial uses. Some roads and firebreaks and a decrease in the fuel load would make a good difference and allow the elderly and disabled more opportunities to get close to nature. That would provide more support, more people with something to lose.
How many dead animals?
Wait! The forests are supposed to burn. That’s part of their plan. Notice all the fires? What did Washington State Director of Public Lands Dave Up-the-grove just do? He’s building inventory, so we can have more and bigger fires.
Very curious last name. Okay, Beeman, is it “build up the groves” or is it “burn up the groves?”
Well, my answer is, “yes!” Yes!
It’s a win-win for them either or both ways. More division, confusion, chaos, mayhem,and misery, so more people become dependent upon them. Fear and pathos have been their power tools for as long as I can remember.”
Why so many fires? What did you expect with the new grove worshippers whose idol, one of their gods, is a tree? Does this make God happy?
But there is more.
Can the air be too clean and, at the same time, less healthy?
Yes, a lot of lightning caused fires, but if man-caused, is it accidentally?
Ah, yes! “Bloomberg Cities” (“15 minute cities”) and “Rapid Urbanization.” It’s all beginning to make sense.
Are they trying to force and scare people to concentrate in cities, concrete and steel ones, large ones, not small, not wooden like Lahaina and Paradise? What is happening to homeowner’s fire insurance? Are rising rates preventing home ownership?
Burn more wood. The earth is counting on you. (Radiant heat is best).
Have forest and wild fires always been a mechanism for cooling the earth? After a long hot spell with everything tinder dry, are fires likely? Do particulates in smoke shade the earth from the intense rays of the sun and provide help for moisture in the air to form droplets of rain?
When man arrived and cooked and heated with fire was there less need for forest and wildfires? With the use of the internal combustion engine without catalytic converters imitating natural combustion, were there even less fires?
Besides poor management, are we witnessing something else?
Seems like fighting forest fires and wildfires has become big business just like homelessness, behavioral and mental health, and pharma.
Hmmm?
What if there were a connection?
Haven’t you heard, “Deforestation, Deforestation, Deforestation!!!”
So why are there more forest fires?
Or are there?
“Cue the forest fires! Release the arsonists! It’s too hot too fast too soon! Quick before people realize what we have done!” (Is this what “chemtrails” are for also? “We cleaned the air too much. Now we must dirty it.”).
Sun’s out. Almost seems like with a vengeance.
Does it feel searing to you? Too searing?
It does to me. What’s more, it’s what I expected when we decided we needed to clean the air by incinerating Carbon Monoxide and particulates into Carbon Dioxide, CO2, and much smaller particulates.
Do smaller particulates let more of the sun’s rays through? This behavior is not something claimed for CO2 even by the most rabid members of the climate cult. The temperature is supposed to slowly ratchet up not jump up. That’s not according to “plan.”
Were we designed by God to handle large particulates? What are nose hairs, cilia, and mucous for? Does higher CO2 dry up mucous faster? Are finer particles able to avoid nose hairs and cilia while more CO2 makes us breathe deeper? (CO2 is what makes us pant and is known as a “cerebral vasodilator).
Have there been more respiratory problems since hotter running engines with catalytic converters were forced on us, Y/N?
Why didn’t God put catalytic converters on fire? What are the advantages of Carbon Monoxide? It was made the bogeyman to force emissions change. Did you get to vote on that?
If our wannabe masters are aware of this, would they want more forest fires to burn and to burn longer to offset this so we don’t notice and to keep this from causing too much heating?
Are larger particulates more helpful in causing rain?
What is the cattle prod used to force us to endure the medical, mental, and behavioral damage caused by excessive exhaled CO2 in tighter homes, schools,etc. with poor ventilation?
Something untoward is happening. Does the sun seem searing? (Are we at the peak of the current sun spot cycle? Is it a strong one? Imagine! The sun might be playing a role!).
But, thinking of all the fires, is there a cost for “clean” air?
What would the cooling effect be without emissions change of monoxide and particles into dioxide and smaller particles?
BTW, what is the monoxide cycle? How much of the combustion of forests results in monoxide? Big particles?
Some 10 years after emissions change was forced on us, the hole in the ozone was discovered. Ever compare the molecular weights of monoxide and dioxide? Is it important? How about monoxide and a chlorofluorocarbon molecule? All gases disperse, some more slowly because of molecular weight. What gases are more likely to reach the ozone layer? Will gravity hamper heavier ones? Why can hydrogen and helium escape into space? Is the ozone still depleted without monoxide? (Thus, the need for more fires).
Do you recall California claiming in the 1990s that monoxide was causing “ground level ozone?” That was a lie because less monoxide was being made, but is there a process?
Just an observation for those who don't want legacy forests harvested, as they have been so designated for decades; 1), Are you willing to personally make up the difference in lost tax revenue not harvesting the trees would provide? If not, are you willing to see the governmental services this revenue funds be reduced accordingly? And my favorite, 2), Do you use toilet paper? If so, what's your alternative?
As for the ongoing personal attacks on Jeff and Jake - which are shameful - they are but a symptom of a not-so-small fanatical group of so-called "progressives" in Clallam County whose minds are made up, and who believe that bigger government funded by somebody else's money is the answer to all of society's problems. Those of us who believe the opposite is true, and who believe in governmental accountability and transparency at every level, must remember that at election time this group will turn out to vote in big numbers. The result will hinge in no small measure on the turnout from the small government side. It's up to all of us to make sure that friends and family vote.
I have often wondered, thought actually, that the silent majority should just stay silent until the day they vote. Knowing there's so much interest in an election draws out the opposition.
But vote they must! And being a couple of less motivated folks with them!
The entire PDC language shows how confused they are. My guess is that Potty Mouth Pickett has convinced them of something that they have never seen before or can appreciate. I'm thinking that the disclaimer should be something closer, “This content sponsored without cost in support of Jake Seegers for Commissioner?"
The hypocrisy of the Clallam County Democrats statement immediately jumped out at me, but this seems to be the way I've seen them operate on their FB group.
Just a reminder that in the recent NYC elections only 7% of the eligible voters turned out to vote. 93% didn't think the elections were all that important. Look at the result.
This political crap they are throwing at CCWD and Jeff is ludicrous. They can not fight with how they would make CC better only try to thwart the momentum that has them worried. Keep up the good work and win the election so we have a better community.
I really hate the legal crap being slung! However regarding the suit, perhaps in taking it to court, perhaps the discovery phase (can one do that in a lawsuit ?) would shed the light on the ludicrous claims…. Then sue them for damages and false claims
We can thank Jim Buck for remaining focused on this issue. To expand on this topic: those trees do not magically appear as usable products. Besides providing income for various government entities and trusts. In my mind the process produces something far more important JOBS. The list of items and people it takes to move that timber from stump to manufactures is large. All of which takes people W0RKING. In my simple mind there is nothing that would solve more social problems than adequate employment.
Re: not using the timber and fires and . . .
Some of us are tired of the same old line. We are tired of the forest and wildfire smoke. We are tired of watching trees burn when they have so many beneficial uses. Some roads and firebreaks and a decrease in the fuel load would make a good difference and allow the elderly and disabled more opportunities to get close to nature. That would provide more support, more people with something to lose.
How many dead animals?
Wait! The forests are supposed to burn. That’s part of their plan. Notice all the fires? What did Washington State Director of Public Lands Dave Up-the-grove just do? He’s building inventory, so we can have more and bigger fires.
Very curious last name. Okay, Beeman, is it “build up the groves” or is it “burn up the groves?”
Well, my answer is, “yes!” Yes!
It’s a win-win for them either or both ways. More division, confusion, chaos, mayhem,and misery, so more people become dependent upon them. Fear and pathos have been their power tools for as long as I can remember.”
Why so many fires? What did you expect with the new grove worshippers whose idol, one of their gods, is a tree? Does this make God happy?
But there is more.
Can the air be too clean and, at the same time, less healthy?
Yes, a lot of lightning caused fires, but if man-caused, is it accidentally?
Ah, yes! “Bloomberg Cities” (“15 minute cities”) and “Rapid Urbanization.” It’s all beginning to make sense.
Are they trying to force and scare people to concentrate in cities, concrete and steel ones, large ones, not small, not wooden like Lahaina and Paradise? What is happening to homeowner’s fire insurance? Are rising rates preventing home ownership?
Burn more wood. The earth is counting on you. (Radiant heat is best).
Have forest and wild fires always been a mechanism for cooling the earth? After a long hot spell with everything tinder dry, are fires likely? Do particulates in smoke shade the earth from the intense rays of the sun and provide help for moisture in the air to form droplets of rain?
When man arrived and cooked and heated with fire was there less need for forest and wildfires? With the use of the internal combustion engine without catalytic converters imitating natural combustion, were there even less fires?
Besides poor management, are we witnessing something else?
Seems like fighting forest fires and wildfires has become big business just like homelessness, behavioral and mental health, and pharma.
Hmmm?
What if there were a connection?
Haven’t you heard, “Deforestation, Deforestation, Deforestation!!!”
So why are there more forest fires?
Or are there?
“Cue the forest fires! Release the arsonists! It’s too hot too fast too soon! Quick before people realize what we have done!” (Is this what “chemtrails” are for also? “We cleaned the air too much. Now we must dirty it.”).
Sun’s out. Almost seems like with a vengeance.
Does it feel searing to you? Too searing?
It does to me. What’s more, it’s what I expected when we decided we needed to clean the air by incinerating Carbon Monoxide and particulates into Carbon Dioxide, CO2, and much smaller particulates.
Do smaller particulates let more of the sun’s rays through? This behavior is not something claimed for CO2 even by the most rabid members of the climate cult. The temperature is supposed to slowly ratchet up not jump up. That’s not according to “plan.”
Were we designed by God to handle large particulates? What are nose hairs, cilia, and mucous for? Does higher CO2 dry up mucous faster? Are finer particles able to avoid nose hairs and cilia while more CO2 makes us breathe deeper? (CO2 is what makes us pant and is known as a “cerebral vasodilator).
Have there been more respiratory problems since hotter running engines with catalytic converters were forced on us, Y/N?
Why didn’t God put catalytic converters on fire? What are the advantages of Carbon Monoxide? It was made the bogeyman to force emissions change. Did you get to vote on that?
If our wannabe masters are aware of this, would they want more forest fires to burn and to burn longer to offset this so we don’t notice and to keep this from causing too much heating?
Are larger particulates more helpful in causing rain?
What is the cattle prod used to force us to endure the medical, mental, and behavioral damage caused by excessive exhaled CO2 in tighter homes, schools,etc. with poor ventilation?
Something untoward is happening. Does the sun seem searing? (Are we at the peak of the current sun spot cycle? Is it a strong one? Imagine! The sun might be playing a role!).
But, thinking of all the fires, is there a cost for “clean” air?
What would the cooling effect be without emissions change of monoxide and particles into dioxide and smaller particles?
BTW, what is the monoxide cycle? How much of the combustion of forests results in monoxide? Big particles?
Some 10 years after emissions change was forced on us, the hole in the ozone was discovered. Ever compare the molecular weights of monoxide and dioxide? Is it important? How about monoxide and a chlorofluorocarbon molecule? All gases disperse, some more slowly because of molecular weight. What gases are more likely to reach the ozone layer? Will gravity hamper heavier ones? Why can hydrogen and helium escape into space? Is the ozone still depleted without monoxide? (Thus, the need for more fires).
Do you recall California claiming in the 1990s that monoxide was causing “ground level ozone?” That was a lie because less monoxide was being made, but is there a process?
CO2 is irrelevant in warming.
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Same play book as in Germany 1930's
Good morning Jeff and Doggers,
We stay the course public safety and economic growth that can stem from that. Clean it up Clallam County, please...
Vote for Jake and get all you know to do the same.
Time for loony leaders to stand back.
Thanks all and have a great day!