The question was: "Did Biden win the 2020 election?"
The theme of the conversation was: "Quality of Life in Clallam County."
In my opinion, the beauty of the Calico Cat Club town halls and candidate conversations is that anyone can ask a question and questions aren't curated.
But there were a few guidelines that the questioners and candidates were informed of: relate it to the theme, no "gotcha" questions, ask questions to both candidates, candidates are free to decline to respond, and there should be respect for everyone.
At the end of the evening, there were a few folks still in line who didn't have the opportunity to ask their questions because time ran out. It's a shame that one questioner chose to use up time w/ this gotcha question, which one of the candidates appropriately (and in accordance to the stated guidelines) declined to answer because it was irrelevant to the topics of the evening.
Her complaint printed in the paper is that the candidate followed the guidelines (and she didn't)?
You are so very right, K. With Norma, if you don't mind her rules or way of thinking, you are not just wrong in your thinking, you are in need of her scolding. So that's why she broke the rules and asked her own question. She considers herself above the the rules that everyone else must follow.
It’s called: Operation Let Her Speak. 40% of the night was wasted on gotcha skunk questions. As annoying as it was, it also let it be known who is who — and how stupid some of them are. Yes, I will say it — stupid; they are stupid; and if they aren’t stupid, they are most certainly acting stupid.
The fact that Jake answered that question in the Indivisible questionnaire and they asked it again proves their stupidity. They can’t let it go; they cling to being wrong, and they are everything that is wrong with Clallam County.
The long winded questions from Norma Turner were likely intentional, to deprive others of their due. Turner has been playing this game for decades, coaching younger players along the way. It is unlikely that you will ever hear this person state that her Constituional right to free speech has been usurped by another; such is virtually impossible, she won't pass them the microphone. MIke French side-stepped Turner's question of a price tag for projects and housing, and in typical political fashion, he goes off on a tangent about grants, and how "local developers" aren't parlaying their own private investments. What he actually alluded to "seed money" to entice using someone else's money and resources to carry out business that government has no business inserting itself into in the first place. The people behind this "public housing push, land back," and any of these other Socialist agendas are doing their best, like the previous administration, to create unconstitutional "laws" and bills that will encumber generations to come. Younger people have been indoctrinated in our once-public schools for three,plus. generations, thanks to complacency, with less-than-prudent decisions and behavior, followed by silence. "Your vote, your choice", has never been more relevant; "civic duty" is not a mandate, it is the mindset that built and sustained this great Republic that we have enjoyed for the past 250 years. Your vote can negate fraudulent ballots that are guaranteed to be counted, swinging an election; that is precisely why they are counted.
I definitely see the validity of the point you're making here.
Perhaps NOW that we are not in that forum, Jake will answer the question for us. Please, Jake, let us know if you're an independent ... or that you're not. I was a poll worker in Florida in 2000 when the Florida Secretary of State stopped the ballot counting as soon as her candidate got a few hundred votes ahead. And you know what? According to the rules that govern our elections, Bush won. He had fewer national votes and probably lost the vote in Florida if they had kept counting, but according to our election laws he was the winner. C'mon, let's stop being nuts about an election that has been decided for six years now. Are you afraid to answer the question?
I would respectfully suggest that if you want to "stop being nuts about an election that has been decided for six years now," there's no time like the present. That's exactly the point of Jake's answer: let's focus on the issues that affect Clallam county right now and not get hung up on divisive national politics.
I'll also add that I've asked Commissioner French specific questions about matters that affect my family and others in Clallam county and only get deflection, purposeful misunderstanding, or talking points that don't address the issue. I'm not angry at Mike, nor do I taunt him.
What's worse: refusing to answer a divisive question that has nothing to do with anything local or refusing to engage with a polite constituent needing help?
The party of fraud and swindles. The party of the Nick Shirley Act for catching them in a fraud and swindle. The party of the Communist bare hook. The party of flubber and magic beans...The party of pleading the 5th. The party of pardon's for political witch hunting their opponents... The party that has no chance to get my vote.
I suppose the old saying “keep your friends close and your enemies even closer” rings true. Every one of you Democrats preach peace, and love, and yet when our president tries to garner peace, tries to make deals that are beneficial to the United States you guys whine and cry. The Democrat party of the past is gone Ron. You people just don’t want to admit it.
How can you call it insinuation when Democrats' platform follows the Communist Manifesto to a "T"? I am disappointed that your years have not resulted in the wisdom normally gathered from your own history combined with the learning of the past. Utopia will never be reached through despotic government. Your use of plausible and misleading arguments is a scheme that you like to promote. "Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain".
Ron it’s better to know the enemy than ignore them. On the other hand how did Biden do? Trump inherited a mess on foreign policy. Russia Ukraine war would not have happened under Trump and our withdrawal from Afghanistan would have been done with strength instead of our tail between our legs. Those are facts that we ignore that we deal with today.
Thank you, Jeff. Your article today lays bare what many of us have known for years. After half a century in the League of Women Voters, I’ve watched an organization that once stood for fairness, civic responsibility, and genuine voter education twist itself into something deeply partisan, hostile, and unrecognizable. What used to be a respected community institution has devolved into a vehicle for control, exclusion, and ideological enforcement. And they seek to push that ideological thought onto our young people. Look who was involved in the mock trials for our high school students interested in the law.
The claim of being “non political” is not just misleading — it’s insulting to anyone paying attention. Their refusal to ask an incumbent even the most basic, critical questions about issues affecting this county is not neutrality. It is deliberate protection. It is selective silence. And it speaks louder than any carefully crafted statement they put out. They took time away from those attending the forum who had actually real questions which mattered to this county. Absolutely shameful.
Norma’s behavior is a prime example: saying one thing publicly while acting in ways that directly contradict the League’s stated mission. Take a look at their national webpage. The hostility toward the current administration is so consuming that it overrides any commitment to open dialogue, accountability, or service to the community. It’s not about democracy. It’s not about voters. It’s about maintaining power.
I’ve tried engaging with members. The pattern is always the same: deflection, refusal to discuss local issues, and an immediate pivot to national politics and old grievances. And to see the anger build up in their faces, just wow. They do not listen. They do not answer. They do not engage. They simply repeat the same anger driven talking points and insist on seeing themselves as perpetual victims.
They present themselves as saviors of democracy, but anyone who looks can see what’s really driving this behavior. It’s not community service — it’s control.
All right! Am I being protected from my government’s arrogance, or not? Apparently NOT! My protestations can be ignored. I can be told to sit down and shut up. Maybe we can fight these invasions into our personal lives. If we keep highlighting the mistakes of the past, bring to surface some egregious actions by our prior governments (Egregious is an adjective that means extremely bad, shocking, or noticeable in a negative way.) we can challenge history. I have to be cautious however since I might be declared “feeble”. The public spotlight is on.
The question is how. I am unsure. I am sure, however, that our collection of Clallam County Watchdogs will come up with some ideas. My approach with my commentary is to “Make Noise”. I like the thought with the following quote; “It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” I am sure some of my readers know I am a fool. I want our Clallam County to improve. I am asking my elected officials to focus on our majority and work toward improvement. I want a learned, prosperous, safe community. Unfortunately the majority doesn’t exhibit good judgement. We residents are burdened with an apathetic collection of non-voters. Tucked in this group are also some folks who I call ignorant. (Democrat Socialists). Add to this collection are a considerable group of people who never learned to read, or logic. How we got into this mess of homeless, drugged, violent, criminal residents must be considered foolish. Education is a cure for ignorance, but there is no cure for stupid. Instead of learning to solve problems we repeat, and repeat, and repeat failed actions.
Now I have some issues. One is a collection within our government that wants total power, and cites legal precedents from years ago. Tough competition. Number two is the group that does not want any change. Here is another historical quotation. “Ramming your head repeatedly into a brick wall and expecting different results is a sign of insanity.” Now we have people wanting to live by ancient rules, another collection wishing to be living without change, and the insane. Who is left? (Right?)
Here I am, lost in the crowd, seeking change, hoping for improvement, for all of us, and foolish enough to believe we fools can make positive changes for the benefit of all. I need some help. Learn. Vote. Make noise. Elections are coming.
When asked by Ms. Turner about the 2020 election, Mr. Seegers could have said,
"Instead of going back in time to a national election beyond anyone's control, let's look at this election. How is it 'democracy' when Port Angeles and Sequim vote to elect the District3 commissioner and, as was the case in the last election, can over-ride the vote of District3 residents. Election fraud is legal in Clallam County."
Especially since Norma Turner was instrumental in revising the Charter Home Rule to include the entire county voting for each district's commissioner. For Jake, civility and respect are among his priorities is my understanding for his not responding to her gotcha question.
We all know that the League of Women is a partisan liberal hack group of liberal socialist women. The only ones that listen to them have the same mentality. Every time a home is sold in Clallam County another socialist liberal moves in. Bunch of TDS whackadoodles!
And here is a sobering thought, Diane. What if 51% of Clallam County voters are of the liberal/socialist ilk and no matter what we do, they're in the majority? 51% sponging off the 49% trying to work and better things. All those miscreants know is ME, ME, ME and MORE, MORE, MORE while they spend their Welfare checks on blue hair dye and piercings, selling their SNAP benefits for drugs. Imagine, if you will, a county of addicts voting against police, and for free drugs, free homes, free food, free.....
Robert, your other post is the answer. Have them live by their mantras. Give their land and homes back to the Tribes; let them stand, not drive thru, bread lines; let them submit all of their phones and devices to gov't control and confiscation; let women lose the right to vote and to form groups like the LWV; let them suffer thru rationed or no health care with wait lists more than a year long; just to name a few.
It is the votes that counted that matter. I don't subscribe to the "count till you win" argument (totally that is). If traditional conservative only turn out at 20 is %, we lose.
In 2016, this county turned red when Trump took office in his first term. When people cry that this county will never be MAGA, it already was once, proving there are conservative voters out here, or at least people who vote the issues rather than just party line.
However, that was 10 years ago and this isn’t a bellwether county anymore. This area depends on in-migration and people are always moving here; they aren’t all liberal though, but they also may not all vote here if this isn’t their permanent residence. It’s a good issue you bring up because the numbers may not be there to support non-democrat candidates no matter what.
Voting aside, this area is being run into the ground at an excruciating slow pace. It feels like nothing ever changes, yet things do change and when they change it isn’t for the better. There might be a step or two forward, but then 20 steps back making sure everyone is equally left behind.
"Because Washington state does not register voters by political party, exact demographic breakdowns of "liberals" versus "conservatives" are not tracked officially. " your friendly A I
The sooner 'ALL' the voters realize C.C. is being controlled by elected officials that are controlled by olympia the better. These officials are on a path of destruction through their destructive agendas & policies which are causing higher & higher taxes-crime-unemployment-job loss-ect ect ect.NGO's were designed for control and we have elected board commissioners that belong to so many that it is mind boggling.These board commissioners have violated their public oaths by serving their destructive NGO's instead of protecting their own communities.The only fix is vote all current elected board members that are responsible for C.C. decay starting with french then ozias & johnson.I noticed just recently since m. french election campaign started C.C.is trying to clean up the homeless drug addicts around westside safeway.
Great job today CCWD! This is the Liberal mindset, if they have nothing, drag up the past and make that the issue! I look at today and the future, Jake is the future here for CC, French is running on his past incompetence. Vote for Jake!
Thank you CCWD for the article today and have a wonderful and blessed day
I am glad that he didn't respond. Trick question, of course. None of us knows for certain if Biden™ was elected fraudulently, but with covid and the subsequent voting flexibility across the country, the fraud vectors were especially magnified. I expect and do hope we learn the truth about that election soon. But man has not proved himself trustworthy by any account. So, I'll move on without waiting.
All elections have certain degrees of fraud. This is a given. The only question is to determine how strong the fraud vectors are and eliminate the ones with the greatest magnitude. Vectors have direction and magnitude. Simple and basic math.
Here in Washington we have the strongest fraud vectors available. See for yourself. You could register online to any location you'd like. Tumwater Creek anyone? Jessie Webster Park? Then you could print your ballot online and toss it in the drop box.
Sadly, you will never change the minds of the committed socialist/leftists belonging to orgs like LVN, Indivisible, et. al. They truly believe the myth that governmental control -- when those of their own ilk are in power -- and increased funding of its partner NGOs, while never holding miscreants like drug addicts, the homeless population, and petty criminals accountable for their actions, is the key to happiness. They believe that government money somehow grows on trees, and that grant dollars not only save the day by covering the costs of their social programs, but do not add to a state and federal debt problem that will have enormous consequences downstream, all the while increasing taxes and supporting levy lifts to fund both their programs and the gold-plated salary/benefit packages of governmental employees with civil service protections. They believe the myth that we're all living on "stolen land" and that the local tribes have lived on this land since "time immemorial," which of course is a total crock of horse puckey. This is the crossroads we find ourselves at today. Do you want more of this, or is it time to change course?
Reminds me of a Quote from Buck Sexton "at some point you start wondering whether WA.,s (both) favorite economic activity is collecting revenue rather than creating prosperity."
Great article, as always, Jeff. I inferred that the LWV was an organization that played by the rules. After reading the state and national mission statements, I no longer believe that is true and Norma Turner's question, followed by her opinion piece, proves it. Jake's response was appropriate because he wants to focus on Clallam County's present election - District 3 Commissioner.
I used to respect some of the women in the LWV. The last decade or so that changed tho. They are manipulative in their language, how they don’t allow open discussion during debates, I’ve submitted questions. Only once has one been allowed and they butchered it.
They don’t know what a woman is. They want you to fall along like sheep. They don’t respect personal choice, and their subgroup, the indivisible’s are disgusting. They have no idea the difference between an The imperial system and an the American standard. They want us to bow down to global interests. They think we’re on stolen land. They are partially responsible for Clallam County for being one of six most economically depressed economies in the United States. I bet they’re real proud of themselves.
Oh, and didn’t Norma Turner get Darryl Wolfe into the CEO position of Olympic Medical Center since he’s her son-in-law and didn’t he destroy it financially?
We should have cried Wolfe instead of watching him ruin our health care system. This political juggernaut of CC has been exposed now we have to vote them out for good. It is BAD decision after another for too long
The League of Women Voters has lost all semblances of their non-partisan past and may more accurately be titled the "League of Corrupt Liberals". The 2020 presidential election had enough fraudulent registrations and enough anomalies and mathematical improbabilities to cast serious doubt about it. THAT is undeniable.
Who would have thought that such deep evil, corruption, and hatred existed in this rural county? Amazing! What toxicity indeed!
Jake should have answered that America would have been better off if the puppet Biden didnt get promoted to president. The pick and play misinformation by the left is very much alive in CC. How about asking ?s about policy instead of 6 years ago election. JAKE is far the best pick and they can’t handle that answer.
The question was: "Did Biden win the 2020 election?"
The theme of the conversation was: "Quality of Life in Clallam County."
In my opinion, the beauty of the Calico Cat Club town halls and candidate conversations is that anyone can ask a question and questions aren't curated.
But there were a few guidelines that the questioners and candidates were informed of: relate it to the theme, no "gotcha" questions, ask questions to both candidates, candidates are free to decline to respond, and there should be respect for everyone.
At the end of the evening, there were a few folks still in line who didn't have the opportunity to ask their questions because time ran out. It's a shame that one questioner chose to use up time w/ this gotcha question, which one of the candidates appropriately (and in accordance to the stated guidelines) declined to answer because it was irrelevant to the topics of the evening.
Her complaint printed in the paper is that the candidate followed the guidelines (and she didn't)?
You are so very right, K. With Norma, if you don't mind her rules or way of thinking, you are not just wrong in your thinking, you are in need of her scolding. So that's why she broke the rules and asked her own question. She considers herself above the the rules that everyone else must follow.
has for years.
It’s called: Operation Let Her Speak. 40% of the night was wasted on gotcha skunk questions. As annoying as it was, it also let it be known who is who — and how stupid some of them are. Yes, I will say it — stupid; they are stupid; and if they aren’t stupid, they are most certainly acting stupid.
The fact that Jake answered that question in the Indivisible questionnaire and they asked it again proves their stupidity. They can’t let it go; they cling to being wrong, and they are everything that is wrong with Clallam County.
The long winded questions from Norma Turner were likely intentional, to deprive others of their due. Turner has been playing this game for decades, coaching younger players along the way. It is unlikely that you will ever hear this person state that her Constituional right to free speech has been usurped by another; such is virtually impossible, she won't pass them the microphone. MIke French side-stepped Turner's question of a price tag for projects and housing, and in typical political fashion, he goes off on a tangent about grants, and how "local developers" aren't parlaying their own private investments. What he actually alluded to "seed money" to entice using someone else's money and resources to carry out business that government has no business inserting itself into in the first place. The people behind this "public housing push, land back," and any of these other Socialist agendas are doing their best, like the previous administration, to create unconstitutional "laws" and bills that will encumber generations to come. Younger people have been indoctrinated in our once-public schools for three,plus. generations, thanks to complacency, with less-than-prudent decisions and behavior, followed by silence. "Your vote, your choice", has never been more relevant; "civic duty" is not a mandate, it is the mindset that built and sustained this great Republic that we have enjoyed for the past 250 years. Your vote can negate fraudulent ballots that are guaranteed to be counted, swinging an election; that is precisely why they are counted.
Ditto
I definitely see the validity of the point you're making here.
Perhaps NOW that we are not in that forum, Jake will answer the question for us. Please, Jake, let us know if you're an independent ... or that you're not. I was a poll worker in Florida in 2000 when the Florida Secretary of State stopped the ballot counting as soon as her candidate got a few hundred votes ahead. And you know what? According to the rules that govern our elections, Bush won. He had fewer national votes and probably lost the vote in Florida if they had kept counting, but according to our election laws he was the winner. C'mon, let's stop being nuts about an election that has been decided for six years now. Are you afraid to answer the question?
Jake, did Biden win?
I would respectfully suggest that if you want to "stop being nuts about an election that has been decided for six years now," there's no time like the present. That's exactly the point of Jake's answer: let's focus on the issues that affect Clallam county right now and not get hung up on divisive national politics.
I'll also add that I've asked Commissioner French specific questions about matters that affect my family and others in Clallam county and only get deflection, purposeful misunderstanding, or talking points that don't address the issue. I'm not angry at Mike, nor do I taunt him.
What's worse: refusing to answer a divisive question that has nothing to do with anything local or refusing to engage with a polite constituent needing help?
The party of fraud and swindles. The party of the Nick Shirley Act for catching them in a fraud and swindle. The party of the Communist bare hook. The party of flubber and magic beans...The party of pleading the 5th. The party of pardon's for political witch hunting their opponents... The party that has no chance to get my vote.
I would outlaw those miscreants if I could, LOL.
John, it strains credibility to insinuate the Democrats are communists when Trump's favorite world leaders are Xi, Putin, and Kim Jong Un.
I suppose the old saying “keep your friends close and your enemies even closer” rings true. Every one of you Democrats preach peace, and love, and yet when our president tries to garner peace, tries to make deals that are beneficial to the United States you guys whine and cry. The Democrat party of the past is gone Ron. You people just don’t want to admit it.
It strains credibility to insinuate that Trump favorite leaders ARE Xi, Putin, and Kim Jong Un.
Why do you say favorite, Ron? And it's the Democrat party that has the DSA, Sharia Law, and the KKK in its big tent.
I am not insinuating. Its my opinion all the way down to their handmaidens.
How can you call it insinuation when Democrats' platform follows the Communist Manifesto to a "T"? I am disappointed that your years have not resulted in the wisdom normally gathered from your own history combined with the learning of the past. Utopia will never be reached through despotic government. Your use of plausible and misleading arguments is a scheme that you like to promote. "Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain".
Ron it’s better to know the enemy than ignore them. On the other hand how did Biden do? Trump inherited a mess on foreign policy. Russia Ukraine war would not have happened under Trump and our withdrawal from Afghanistan would have been done with strength instead of our tail between our legs. Those are facts that we ignore that we deal with today.
The Dems let 20m illegals into our country and you worry about Trump being a commie. Far fetched deflection Ron on who has ruined America.
Yet they act a lot like Trump.
Thank you, Jeff. Your article today lays bare what many of us have known for years. After half a century in the League of Women Voters, I’ve watched an organization that once stood for fairness, civic responsibility, and genuine voter education twist itself into something deeply partisan, hostile, and unrecognizable. What used to be a respected community institution has devolved into a vehicle for control, exclusion, and ideological enforcement. And they seek to push that ideological thought onto our young people. Look who was involved in the mock trials for our high school students interested in the law.
The claim of being “non political” is not just misleading — it’s insulting to anyone paying attention. Their refusal to ask an incumbent even the most basic, critical questions about issues affecting this county is not neutrality. It is deliberate protection. It is selective silence. And it speaks louder than any carefully crafted statement they put out. They took time away from those attending the forum who had actually real questions which mattered to this county. Absolutely shameful.
Norma’s behavior is a prime example: saying one thing publicly while acting in ways that directly contradict the League’s stated mission. Take a look at their national webpage. The hostility toward the current administration is so consuming that it overrides any commitment to open dialogue, accountability, or service to the community. It’s not about democracy. It’s not about voters. It’s about maintaining power.
I’ve tried engaging with members. The pattern is always the same: deflection, refusal to discuss local issues, and an immediate pivot to national politics and old grievances. And to see the anger build up in their faces, just wow. They do not listen. They do not answer. They do not engage. They simply repeat the same anger driven talking points and insist on seeing themselves as perpetual victims.
They present themselves as saviors of democracy, but anyone who looks can see what’s really driving this behavior. It’s not community service — it’s control.
The 1905 Time Machine.
All right! Am I being protected from my government’s arrogance, or not? Apparently NOT! My protestations can be ignored. I can be told to sit down and shut up. Maybe we can fight these invasions into our personal lives. If we keep highlighting the mistakes of the past, bring to surface some egregious actions by our prior governments (Egregious is an adjective that means extremely bad, shocking, or noticeable in a negative way.) we can challenge history. I have to be cautious however since I might be declared “feeble”. The public spotlight is on.
The question is how. I am unsure. I am sure, however, that our collection of Clallam County Watchdogs will come up with some ideas. My approach with my commentary is to “Make Noise”. I like the thought with the following quote; “It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” I am sure some of my readers know I am a fool. I want our Clallam County to improve. I am asking my elected officials to focus on our majority and work toward improvement. I want a learned, prosperous, safe community. Unfortunately the majority doesn’t exhibit good judgement. We residents are burdened with an apathetic collection of non-voters. Tucked in this group are also some folks who I call ignorant. (Democrat Socialists). Add to this collection are a considerable group of people who never learned to read, or logic. How we got into this mess of homeless, drugged, violent, criminal residents must be considered foolish. Education is a cure for ignorance, but there is no cure for stupid. Instead of learning to solve problems we repeat, and repeat, and repeat failed actions.
Now I have some issues. One is a collection within our government that wants total power, and cites legal precedents from years ago. Tough competition. Number two is the group that does not want any change. Here is another historical quotation. “Ramming your head repeatedly into a brick wall and expecting different results is a sign of insanity.” Now we have people wanting to live by ancient rules, another collection wishing to be living without change, and the insane. Who is left? (Right?)
Here I am, lost in the crowd, seeking change, hoping for improvement, for all of us, and foolish enough to believe we fools can make positive changes for the benefit of all. I need some help. Learn. Vote. Make noise. Elections are coming.
I'll be at tomorrow's sign waiving for Jake. It's from 11 - 1. Even if it's for a few minutes, come and join in. I'll bring an extra sign.
Denise. Thanks, but. I have to be in Port Orchard tomorrow to attend a Celebration of Life for my deceased partner. I will be there vicariously.
I am sorry to hear of your partner's passing. Prayers for you and your family as you celebrate a loved one's life. Drive safely, Sheldon.
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" (Network) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/
When asked by Ms. Turner about the 2020 election, Mr. Seegers could have said,
"Instead of going back in time to a national election beyond anyone's control, let's look at this election. How is it 'democracy' when Port Angeles and Sequim vote to elect the District3 commissioner and, as was the case in the last election, can over-ride the vote of District3 residents. Election fraud is legal in Clallam County."
Especially since Norma Turner was instrumental in revising the Charter Home Rule to include the entire county voting for each district's commissioner. For Jake, civility and respect are among his priorities is my understanding for his not responding to her gotcha question.
We all know that the League of Women is a partisan liberal hack group of liberal socialist women. The only ones that listen to them have the same mentality. Every time a home is sold in Clallam County another socialist liberal moves in. Bunch of TDS whackadoodles!
And here is a sobering thought, Diane. What if 51% of Clallam County voters are of the liberal/socialist ilk and no matter what we do, they're in the majority? 51% sponging off the 49% trying to work and better things. All those miscreants know is ME, ME, ME and MORE, MORE, MORE while they spend their Welfare checks on blue hair dye and piercings, selling their SNAP benefits for drugs. Imagine, if you will, a county of addicts voting against police, and for free drugs, free homes, free food, free.....
This is why the turnout in this, and all subsequent, elections means everything.
Robert, your other post is the answer. Have them live by their mantras. Give their land and homes back to the Tribes; let them stand, not drive thru, bread lines; let them submit all of their phones and devices to gov't control and confiscation; let women lose the right to vote and to form groups like the LWV; let them suffer thru rationed or no health care with wait lists more than a year long; just to name a few.
Excellent list, Denise! I agree with you!
Of course, but my point is, what if we have 100% turnout and the freeloading libs dominates the county?
The vote not submitted is one not counted.
Vote the wedge VOTE JAKE
VOTE!
Of course, by the point is: Does this county have 51% conservatives? Or is it 55% liberals?
It is the votes that counted that matter. I don't subscribe to the "count till you win" argument (totally that is). If traditional conservative only turn out at 20 is %, we lose.
See my LONG post with real data.
I guess we need to change the odds. Get out the vote for the conservative cause.
Of course, but does this county have 51% conservatives? Or is it 55% liberals?
In 2016, this county turned red when Trump took office in his first term. When people cry that this county will never be MAGA, it already was once, proving there are conservative voters out here, or at least people who vote the issues rather than just party line.
However, that was 10 years ago and this isn’t a bellwether county anymore. This area depends on in-migration and people are always moving here; they aren’t all liberal though, but they also may not all vote here if this isn’t their permanent residence. It’s a good issue you bring up because the numbers may not be there to support non-democrat candidates no matter what.
Voting aside, this area is being run into the ground at an excruciating slow pace. It feels like nothing ever changes, yet things do change and when they change it isn’t for the better. There might be a step or two forward, but then 20 steps back making sure everyone is equally left behind.
These are just numbers. Counting the folks, legal folks, who vote is the end desire. We should look at potentials encourage conservatives to vote.
"Because Washington state does not register voters by political party, exact demographic breakdowns of "liberals" versus "conservatives" are not tracked officially. " your friendly A I
This State! ugh
Let those liberal arrogant know-it-alls pay these taxes. I imagine that we will see SanFran in a couple of years.
So True!
The sooner 'ALL' the voters realize C.C. is being controlled by elected officials that are controlled by olympia the better. These officials are on a path of destruction through their destructive agendas & policies which are causing higher & higher taxes-crime-unemployment-job loss-ect ect ect.NGO's were designed for control and we have elected board commissioners that belong to so many that it is mind boggling.These board commissioners have violated their public oaths by serving their destructive NGO's instead of protecting their own communities.The only fix is vote all current elected board members that are responsible for C.C. decay starting with french then ozias & johnson.I noticed just recently since m. french election campaign started C.C.is trying to clean up the homeless drug addicts around westside safeway.
The do nothing but suck tax money from us while they launder it. The party of No Problems Solved.
Great job today CCWD! This is the Liberal mindset, if they have nothing, drag up the past and make that the issue! I look at today and the future, Jake is the future here for CC, French is running on his past incompetence. Vote for Jake!
Thank you CCWD for the article today and have a wonderful and blessed day
You too, John.
I am glad that he didn't respond. Trick question, of course. None of us knows for certain if Biden™ was elected fraudulently, but with covid and the subsequent voting flexibility across the country, the fraud vectors were especially magnified. I expect and do hope we learn the truth about that election soon. But man has not proved himself trustworthy by any account. So, I'll move on without waiting.
All elections have certain degrees of fraud. This is a given. The only question is to determine how strong the fraud vectors are and eliminate the ones with the greatest magnitude. Vectors have direction and magnitude. Simple and basic math.
Here in Washington we have the strongest fraud vectors available. See for yourself. You could register online to any location you'd like. Tumwater Creek anyone? Jessie Webster Park? Then you could print your ballot online and toss it in the drop box.
https://voter.votewa.gov/portal2023/home.aspx
Isn't it obvious?
Amen!
Sadly, you will never change the minds of the committed socialist/leftists belonging to orgs like LVN, Indivisible, et. al. They truly believe the myth that governmental control -- when those of their own ilk are in power -- and increased funding of its partner NGOs, while never holding miscreants like drug addicts, the homeless population, and petty criminals accountable for their actions, is the key to happiness. They believe that government money somehow grows on trees, and that grant dollars not only save the day by covering the costs of their social programs, but do not add to a state and federal debt problem that will have enormous consequences downstream, all the while increasing taxes and supporting levy lifts to fund both their programs and the gold-plated salary/benefit packages of governmental employees with civil service protections. They believe the myth that we're all living on "stolen land" and that the local tribes have lived on this land since "time immemorial," which of course is a total crock of horse puckey. This is the crossroads we find ourselves at today. Do you want more of this, or is it time to change course?
Reminds me of a Quote from Buck Sexton "at some point you start wondering whether WA.,s (both) favorite economic activity is collecting revenue rather than creating prosperity."
Great article, as always, Jeff. I inferred that the LWV was an organization that played by the rules. After reading the state and national mission statements, I no longer believe that is true and Norma Turner's question, followed by her opinion piece, proves it. Jake's response was appropriate because he wants to focus on Clallam County's present election - District 3 Commissioner.
JAKE SEEGERS 2026!!
LETS VOTE JAKE
There were some "Seegers" supporters who got their panites in a wad over Jake offering to meet Jessie and have a sit down.
Just saying Jake handled that so much better than I would have ever done and it was a thing of beauty. He put his words to work.
He politely asked Jessie to a sit down.
Jessie's response showed his real true colors when he responded.
He is all safe hiding behind a camera and posting but a face to face is a big hell no.
Jakes skill set with that was so beautiful!!!
Go Jake
I love the way French's smirk changed to a frown when Seeger's starting talking, he knows he's toast.
“He did not give even a ballpark figure.” ---- Because it was Jake
But for French it is okay to “He did not give even a ballpark figure.” because she has nothing to sell him on.
More proof of why they are so scared of Jake. He has the receipts regarding really bad spending.
Oh and cleaning up after them.
<3 yep
French when asked if he helped stated he donates money. His solution to everything just throw money at it.
I used to respect some of the women in the LWV. The last decade or so that changed tho. They are manipulative in their language, how they don’t allow open discussion during debates, I’ve submitted questions. Only once has one been allowed and they butchered it.
They don’t know what a woman is. They want you to fall along like sheep. They don’t respect personal choice, and their subgroup, the indivisible’s are disgusting. They have no idea the difference between an The imperial system and an the American standard. They want us to bow down to global interests. They think we’re on stolen land. They are partially responsible for Clallam County for being one of six most economically depressed economies in the United States. I bet they’re real proud of themselves.
Oh, and didn’t Norma Turner get Darryl Wolfe into the CEO position of Olympic Medical Center since he’s her son-in-law and didn’t he destroy it financially?
We should have cried Wolfe instead of watching him ruin our health care system. This political juggernaut of CC has been exposed now we have to vote them out for good. It is BAD decision after another for too long
Thanks for THAT reminder!
The League of Women Voters has lost all semblances of their non-partisan past and may more accurately be titled the "League of Corrupt Liberals". The 2020 presidential election had enough fraudulent registrations and enough anomalies and mathematical improbabilities to cast serious doubt about it. THAT is undeniable.
Who would have thought that such deep evil, corruption, and hatred existed in this rural county? Amazing! What toxicity indeed!
Jake should have answered that America would have been better off if the puppet Biden didnt get promoted to president. The pick and play misinformation by the left is very much alive in CC. How about asking ?s about policy instead of 6 years ago election. JAKE is far the best pick and they can’t handle that answer.