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Greg O.'s avatar

The tribe is a "lead agency"?? The tribe is nothing but a corrupt organization that is killing clallam county !!! The so called leader of the tribe is a very irresponsible man who only cares about his pockets .. they have absolutely no rights to do anything to a United States highway. And good ol flip flop Ozias, only caring about his pockets as well.

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Lloyd's avatar

Agents of fortune?

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Robert James's avatar

'Agents' is key...that means they work on behalf of some entity... and it ain't us!😎

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Lloyd's avatar

I'll be danged if I would approve of paying $7.8 million for an improved access to their buisness. Its not like they pay their share of taxes like a regular company would have to. They dont even provide a service to the community. Its just an adult daycare for old farts to come spend their social scurity checks. Win win win for the indians.

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Michael Heath's avatar

Exactly Patriot Robert James~!

Sincerely, Mike

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Michael Heath's avatar

You sure hit that on the head Patriot Greg O~!

Have a great Labor Day Holiday weekend~!

Sincerely, Mike

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Philip Bates's avatar

Thanks @Jeff Tozzer!!

A few points:

1) The Tribe is a Sovereign Nation, not a Public Agency!

2) Why is a Roundabout necessary, except to drive more business for the Tribe, a Sovereign Nation?

3) Why and How would Taxpayers benefit from driving more business to this Sovereign Nation corporation?

4) The HW is US 101, not some insignificant county road. So the State must be the lead. Where are the traffic study results? Where are the environmental study results? Where are the financial analysis on slowing commerce results?

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Michael Heath's avatar

Great comment Patriot Phillip Bates~!

Everyone who is honest that works in the traffic control business knows that these roundabouts are confusing to many drivers, not to mention bicyclists and pedestrians, but that they are also locations where traffic accidents are FAR more likely to occur~! This does have a negative impact on the taxpayers and those of us who pay driver insurance premiums, not to mention the elevated cost of fuel wasted and vehicle maintenance overall. The so-called "environmental impact" would obviously be negatively impacted on wasted fuel alone, but roundabouts are also notorious for litter and garbage issues... Have a great Labor Day Holiday weekend~! Sincerely, Mike

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Robert's avatar

“This is the only commerce route we’ve got. This is the one that brings our heavy truck traffic… A roundabout is a permanent chokepoint.” All you have to do is travel though the new roundabout on this side of the Hood Canal bridge to experience how a tight roundabout slows truck traffic to a crawl and makes vehicle traffic dangerous as cars whiz by to pass the trucks heading up the hill to the west. The state has already pissed away hundreds of millions of dollars to "save the salmon" without making the highway safer. With the proposed John Wayne Marina area development looming that will surely increase Hwy. 101 traffic exponentially, if anything, the road needs widening to add additional lanes, not to give JKT another business advantage.

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Steve Veltkamp's avatar

The fact that that roundabout W of the bridge is at the bottom of an incline makes it environmentally a very bad thing, as vehicles have to step on the gas and increase emissions just to climb the hill.

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Robert James's avatar

Also very dangerous to bring heavy truck traffic to a near or complete stop at the bottom of that grade...that is a 'money talks' situation from all the uber-wealthy folks who live along the canal there...very bad choice in reality...bad choices made on behalf of a few is never good.😊

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Michael Heath's avatar

Right on Patriot Robert~!

Sincerely, Mike

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MK's avatar
Aug 29Edited

“connect tribal communities while preparing for climate resiliency.”

This kind of corporate/government crap language flows out of their mouths and yet if you ask them what it means you'll be met with a blank stare. Just say the words, and the funding will flow.

While US 101 is a federal route, certain segments in Washington are also part of the National Highway System and the Strategic Highway Network, which are designations that can involve federal funding and oversight for specific projects. So, while it's a federal route, the day-to-day maintenance and operations fall under the purview of the state.

We need to find a friendly federal entity to get involved here.

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Erin Moore's avatar

How can we set up a peninsula wide survey for residents to give opinion?

We can then see what the community commuters really think about the new roundabouts (Both Port Townsends/Hood Canal). Real feedback from real people.

Maybe a # where people can post videos/pictures and give a short statement on social media?

#PeninsulaRoundabouts or something similar?

If we can gain attention we can stop this terrible idea.

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Geoff Fox's avatar

My memory isn't the best, but my recollection is that it was almost entirely the DOT t wanting the roundabout at Hood Canal

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Erin Moore's avatar

The interesting thing is that it’s happening all over the PNW. We were in Bend several months ago and there are roundabouts EVERYWHERE! Traffic is horrible in Bend!

I spoke with several people at the resort we were staying at and almost every family we met said that their area was being inundated with these things and traffic had become a problem.

I have a feeling that private equity has come to town and is here to stay.

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Robert James's avatar

The main problem here is that the vocal, visible folks are the squeaky wheel that gets the 'grease' and NOzias and all the other petty bureaucrats know how to squeak, loudly or quietly, persistently, long term and draw on their vocal minority to get things done...the liberal leftist oriented people love being squeaky...we need to be squeakier! Not sneakier!😎

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Erin Moore's avatar

Get squeakier, not sneakier……that’s funny!!!

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Jennifer's avatar

MK, does this work?

The following is a report developed by the Washington State Department of Transportation (Skagit County 2015) in accordance with a grant from the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). Using Flood Studies to Inform Transportation Asset Management FHWA Pilot Project Report WSDOT.

I only cut and pasted a tiny tiny part of the study.

Why shouldn’t the JT Tribe not work in coordination with WSDOT?

https://wsdot.wa.gov/construction-planning/protecting-environment/climate-change-transportation/climate-resilience

Creating a Resilient Transportation Network in Skagit County: Using Flood Studies to Inform Transportation Asset Management

Who should read this report?

Our main audience is other state DOTs, FHWA Federal Highway Administrat Offices of Environment, Planning and Realty, and the FHWA’s Office of Infrastructure Metropolitan Planning Organizations, TRIBES, rural and urban planners, public works staff, and POLICYMAKERS who want to get a jump-start on integrating adaptation strategies for transportation infrastructure by incorporating studies by other agencies or jurisdictions. This report gives practical, hands-on tips and lessons learned for how to use existing flood studies to identify “NO REGRETS” strategies. We hope that readers will learn from our experience and work with the wealth of flood hazard reduction information, so that transportation asset managers and flood control managers integrate flood hazard planning into their work.

4.1.4 Building the team

YOU NEED A STAFF ON YOUR TEAM WHO KNOW BOTH THE LOCAL AREA AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CLIMATE ADAPTATION WORK SO THAT LOCAL RESPONSES AND STATEWIDE POLICY CAN BE CONSIDERED IN YOUR STUDY.

4.2.1 What recommendations do we have for others to do this type of work?

COORDINATE: It would be helpful to coordinate with cooperating agencies EARLY IN THE PROCESS to ensure special data or model outputs are selected to avoid having to backtrack, redo, or rerun models to get that data.

Keep in mind two things: (1) MAKE SURE IMPACTS TO THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ARE CONSIDERED , and (2) PROMOTE YOUR DOT AS A PARTNER IN THE SOLUTION. (e.g., we should be partners, because what one agency does affects the other).

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MK's avatar

Are you saying that the fix is in, and the JST is just following the playbook?

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Jennifer's avatar

MK, no, I'm not saying the fix is in. What I interpreted was a fix isn't in without collaboration of previous studies involving more that just WSDOT "giving up" They are part of the study. It's not an easy read, but people are asking who they can contact or go to. This site give references, facts and figures, including studies and maps on the roads through Blyn. As quoted below the study:

..."it start on integrating adaptation strategies for transportation infrastructure by incorporating studies by other agencies or jurisdictions. This report gives practical, hands-on tips and lessons learned for how to use existing flood studies to identify “NO REGRETS” strategies"...

More important, it recommends exactly what we are worried about..."(1) MAKE SURE IMPACTS TO THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ARE CONSIDERED"

What I'm saying is, this is not a done deal.

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MK's avatar

Yea, she's being groomed by her handlers. I'm talking about someone within the the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA).

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John Worthington's avatar

Time to write some more letters.

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Erin Moore's avatar

Where should I send my letter Mr. Worthington?

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John Worthington's avatar

I posted an address and an email here on the thread.

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MK's avatar

I'm sure that you'll be sharing your knowledge who to write to.

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lynn bender's avatar

Mark: I do not think you should be intimating that Rep Randall is "Already in their Pockets"! that is a dreadful, politically far right statement that does not belong on this log. Would you be ok with me saying that as the prior Asst Mgr of the PDN you were unable to make choices because you are MAGA?

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No One Important's avatar

WTF for? Why spend $7.8 million tax dollars on $50K worth of concrete and $50K worth of labor? Oh yeah, so $7.7M ends up in the pockets of Tribes and politicians? Or should we spend $7.8M for a Hwy 101 overpass, with the nearest exit to Blyn being Quilcene or Sequim?

Seriously, that's $7.8m in WASTED tax money that's not necessary, solves no problems, and ONLY benefits the Tribe. This is a prime example of WASTE and most certainly, massive money laundering. Even if needed, a roundabout could be built for $100K, by hungry contractors, or $7.8M by greedy, corrupt, Tribal contractors. Better yet: Why at all? I say NONE OF THE ABOVE.

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Teresa 2's avatar

This city and our residents must contact absolutely every single state and federal agency, even remotely involved, to get this project STOPPED in it's tracks!! Climate resilience? That's BS. Connect the tribes? U.S. 101 already does that. The tribe is in control of the project? That's just plain WRONG. We, the taxpayers, will foot the bill for it? WRONG again.

Can someone on here please figure out who all to contact regarding this shit-show? Post the info. Perhaps Jeff...can also post a letter outlining all the points of the situation that we can download and add our own thoughts to.

If we all spread the word about this to others we know, who might not be a CCW reader, having a (snail-mail and email) list and letter ready to provide them, we might just have a FIGHTING CHANCE of stopping this roundabout from happening.

I will most definitely appreciate any assistance with making it easier to contact the right agency and/or person necessary. Thank you!!

Thank you, Jeff, once again for your hard work !

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Eric Fehrmann's avatar

Maybe John Worthington has some info on who to write.

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4 reasonable development's avatar

Teresa I nominate you to take the lead of organizing “Resist the shit-show”. I think your advocacy is exactly what is needed to get this much needed train rolling in the right direction, just rolling would be more like it. Take names and numbers and then contact those interested in working on what, where, and when to do all the things you have mentioned that need to be done and get done. Jeff can’t do this, we have to do it. An organized group of people is much more effective than onesy, twosey……if your willing we’ll need a contact number to text our info to you. I’m all in. Perhaps a nice welcoming party for the governor is in order?

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Geoff Fox's avatar

What's the old saying, "You are either part of the problem or part of the solution." Let's see, Ron Allen, very wise, sets himself up to be the pinata, sort of like "take your best shot at me". Oh crystal ball (or the old game "Ask the 8 Ball?" Answer me, "Why has the funding for road work on 101 in the Sequim area been tabled in Olympia?" Answer me, "Why has the Sequim City Council placed the development of the John Wayne area under a moratorium?" Crystal ball, answer me, "Is the tribe looking to be the lead developer of the Marina property?" Answer me crystal ball, "If the roundabout is built in Blyn with taxpayer funds does this presage the ability of the state money to suddenly appear to build a roundabout at Whitefeather?" Answer me crystal ball, "Why is the great white father from Olympia coming to the 7 Cedars on September 6, 2025 - is it just a fund raising event for his party?" And besides a photo op, oh crystal ball, answer me, "What else did the I-5 governor discuss at the Elwha fuel spill? and with whom" Oh crystal ball, answer me, "Who the hell is the problem and who the hell is the solution? Oh crystal ball, was Pogo correct when he said, "we have met the enemy and it us?"

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Robert James's avatar

Pogo KNOWS! Yes, humanity is our own worst enemy, problem child, know-it-all, etc.

Hard to believe that 'love will find a way'!

The legalities are a problem...the system is set up (forever) to favor 'legality' over 'lawfulness'. There is an important distinction which we are unaware of.

Unfortunately my computer and/or substack allows me to paste some links and not others so I don't know if I can get this up...I'll email it to Jeff and maybe he can post it.

I'll type in a excerpt... "A legal process can be defective IN LAW." (emphasis mine)

"To be legal, a matter does not have to follow the LAW!" (emphasis mine)

"Instead it conforms to and follows the 'rules' or 'form' of law."

"LAWFUL matters are ETHICALLY enjoined in 'the LAW OF THE LAND'"---THE LAW OF THE PEOPLE---and are ACTUAL in nature, not implied."

"This is why whatever TRUE LAW was upheld by the ORGANIC CONSTITUTION has no bearing or AUTHORITY in the present day legal courts!!!!!"

It is impossible for anyone in 'authority' today to access, or even take cognizance of, TRUE LAW, since "authority" is the "law of necessity."

Color of Law; The 'appearance' or 'semblence', without the 'substance', of LEGAL RIGHT.

Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of 'state (meaning every level of gov't) law' and made possible only because 'wrongdoer' is clothed with 'authority of state', is action taken under "color of law". Black's Dictionary, Fifth Edition, page 241

This, my friends, is the legal structure we are living under, designed to protect 'the state' at whatever cost to THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND!

This is why no heroic retired lawyer is stepping up and offering to guide us through some legal challenge process....it's rigged, front to back and has been for a very long time.

King Henry VIII supposedly said, 'First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers!' regarding his battle with 'the state' regarding divorce and other inconveniences he had to endure.

The lawyers have been funded and trained by the 'elite' for hundreds, maybe thousands of years to set up an almost impenetrable miasma of legalities which can be used to control and argued over for-ever!

We have met the enemy!😎

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Lois Venarchick's avatar

This has left an undesirable taste in my mouth against the bully in this situation; the tribal commission. Round abouts on highway 101 will do nothing but create bottlenecks and accidents. All you need to do is look at the round about on the Jefferson County side of the Hood Canal Bridge on a Sunday afternoon to confirm this. In addition, with the 101 roundabout and pedestrian/bike crossing(s), I see a whole new slew of accidents between cars, trucks and people. My final comment is that the tribe, which I always used to view with admiration, should not get to spend taxpayer money without taxpayer and local thorough involvement.

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MK's avatar
Aug 29Edited

Very well stated. If anyone has ever been to Wickenburg, AZ, they have 7 roundabouts within a 5.4 mile span to slow the traffic down along Hwy 93, and it's a mess. Locals joke about leaving a wrecker posted 24/7 to handle the daily crashes. It's like clockwork.

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John Worthington's avatar

Great article Jeff. This is a hill everybody should be willing to die on.

The future of our Peninsula is at stake.

The impact this decision will have on our future generations here are epic.

Everybody except a few recognizes the importance of having an effective freight corridor, that is not slowed down to a retail arterial speeds so often it turns a 70 mile trip into something so obnoxious.

I swear I could drive a truck full of dynamite 70 miles through a South American jungle faster than you can get from Seattle to PA/Sequim.

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Geoff Fox's avatar

Maybe the tribe is thinking 3 steps ahead. They are onto the next fish to fry. This is already a done deal. "In our rearview window". The governor is coming to us not you.. Ah to be a fly on the wall and listen in "But when we get behind closed doors?".

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4 reasonable development's avatar

Were any of you invited to the party? I certainly didn’t get an invitation 👎

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Robert James's avatar

Well, we can't say, in polite company, what really goes on behind closed doors!🚪😝

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Robert James's avatar

So that's where all the dynamite is!😅

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Denise Lapio's avatar

This is a very important article. Thank you, Jeff! There is only one way and one way out of here: US HWY 101. Something happens and we're toast. Even the Tribe. I have had two personal experiences where I could NOT see a pedestrian crossing the opposite side of the round-about because of the plants in the center of it and my attention to on coming traffic from my right. Can you imagine the same scenario on a highway? Writing our representative would be a formality, but hiring the fastest ambulance chasing lawyer in the state would be the best route.

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Kathy's avatar

“WSDOT will perform acquisition of non-tribal lands, as necessary.”

Can you imagine what would happen if WSDOT tried to "perform acquisition" of tribal lands?

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Eric Fehrmann's avatar

$$$$$$$$$

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Eric Fehrmann's avatar

Let me see if I have this right. Washington State Department of Transportation says JST is to lead a project to install a roundabout at the entrance to their casino, gas station, and cultural center, with taxpayer money, while JST enjoys many tax exemptions. The proposed roundabout will slow truck traffic, which slows auto traffic creating anxiety for all drivers after traveling on a one lane highway for an hour or more already. We rely on this route to supply us with needed goods and emergency vehicle access. Impeding traffic flow solely for the benefit of a sovereign nation does not benefit the general public. Then the State adds insult to injury by ceding leadership to the sovereign nation to lead the project. I guess adding a toll booth at the roundabout is the next step. I’m sure its in the JST plan already.

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Geoff Fox's avatar

There was a power vacuum in Clallam county. And thanks to all those existing political entities the Tribe has stepped into that vacuum and has filled it. I am willing to bet that Ron Allen is very happy that the Governor is coming to the 7 Cedars, the tribe's home turf. Wouldn't surprise me if in due time, a part of this county is carved out and S'Klallam County created. And with the tribe as a sovereign nation having complete and total authority.

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Eric Fehrmann's avatar

Think we will be adopted?

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Robert James's avatar

Like a red-headed stepchild!...oh, dang, I can't say that saying any more!😎

God bless all the red-heads who may have to endure the stigma!😇

I think it had something to do with those red-headed Vikings who had their way with the world for a few centuries!😊

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Geoff Fox's avatar

Are you willing to learn the Statement of Co-Existence and Government to Government Relationship? Remember Tonto's last words to the Lone Ranger when they were surrounded?

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Robert James's avatar

'Who's WE, paleface?'🤣

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4 reasonable development's avatar

Why in the heck would the governor come to 7 Cedars? Any guesses?

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Robert James's avatar

I'm sure it's just to honor the collusion and corruption and grift/graft they all have in common...we get to watch 'power corrupts' in real-time!😎

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Geoff Fox's avatar

Oh to be a fly on the wall.

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Robert James's avatar

With a recording device...Bill Gates probably has a fly-drone camera spy thingy he could loan us!🙀

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4 reasonable development's avatar

Looking to turn Sequim into Olympia & Seattle?

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Lori Jayne's avatar

I immediately thought toll booth!

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BR's avatar

Brings to mind Blazing Saddles. “Anybody got a dime??”

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MK's avatar

A "shitload"

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Robert James's avatar

They already sell us the fuel and weed and food and entertainment and don't pay taxes...they might let us skate on the toll...😱

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TLL's avatar

it needs to be bypassed with a frontage road

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Geoff Fox's avatar

Just like the frontage road for Sequim, kicked so far down the road on the DOT plans.

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Donna Huswick's avatar

I had no idea Sophus Road was so well travelled......oh! Wait, entrance and exit to the Longhouse market? Whaaat?

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Robert James's avatar

It is very inconvenient to turn in going West-bound, so we just want to make it equitable for all!🤣

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jeff swegle's avatar

JKT only cares about the income it will receive from this project or any other,problems that occur will have to be dealt with by others.

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Leo Leblanc's avatar

My question would be: Will the JKT use all the fuel taxes they’ve been collecting to fund this project???

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Robert James's avatar

Sovereign information, sorry!🙀

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SC's avatar

I'm not sure how traffic circles are technically helping climate resilience. I understand that supposedly it's less emissions to get up to speed, but as we notice in the flow of traffic at the hood canal, a long line of cars idling behind the cars that are navigating the traffic circle seems to kind of defeat the purpose. I imagine the idling will be worse through that section in Blynn if it does come to fruition

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private man's avatar

Once again remember that when they break out the BS language such as in this case climate resilience" it is a code language. It means they have no legit reason and therefore use some of the sacret cow words. Keep your eyes open for "Vital role, Foundation, Substainable, clear vision, and the like... (Going Forward)

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Jeff Tozzer's avatar

Don't forget "stakeholders" and "meet them where they're at."

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MK's avatar

Is there a TLA (three letter acronym) associated with that?

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Robert James's avatar

FTS...Fleece The Sheep!🐑😝

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Robert James's avatar

Doublespeakease! Probably Triplespeakease by now!

Our great leaders speak with tri-forked tongue!🐍🙀

'Yours', 'Mine' and 'Ours'! That's all they want!😝

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Geoff Fox's avatar

"If you're a giver, remember to learn your limits.

Because the takers don't have any.

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Robert James's avatar

'Clear Path'. Planning software adopted by Nozias and team to map out 'our' future!☺️

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