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Lawrence Martin's avatar

From 40 replies to 1400+. Give yourself a hand Jeff. New unobstructed information platforms are being introduced it seems monthly. Where people get their information is becoming increasingly diverse. Controlling the narrative gets exceedingly expensive if even possible anymore. I would like to remind the Commissioners who I'm sure keep tabs on CCWD that to ignore the results of the survey will have consequences.

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

Seeing how many people DID respond to survey is a hope those people will vote these people out.

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MK's avatar
Jun 20Edited

Pickett's sudden pivot on the water steward position to not have it be on a ballot but rather a direct referral to the BOCCC was all that I needed to see to know that the results were being taken seriously by the CRC factions.

The manufactured opposition to those results supports those factions to disregard the voters when they know full well what the voters want/think.

Having listened to commissioner Richards for long enough I'm waiting for him to weigh in on how the Commission has an obligation to take the results seriously and that under the current environment is headed the wrong way. If anyone can bring color to this it is he.

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Lawrence Martin's avatar

Hope your right MK.

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Denise Lapio's avatar

Jim Stoffer assured the 2nd Town Hall attendees that if the public wanted or not wanted a water steward from the results of the survey, then that's what the CRC would abide by. Stoffer has also dismissed (on public record) the interference of outside influencers as inconsequential. Now he dismisses the results of the survey as insignificant. I can't wait for Monday! Keep speaking up, CC. Jeff is giving us the info to challenge those who want to away our rights and freedoms. Thank you, Jeff!

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MK's avatar
Jun 20Edited

I wonder if you Google the saying, "If their lips are moving, they're lying" you'll find a picture of Jim?

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

Susan Fisch represents her own fermented mind. She does not represent anything other than a cabal of like nacissistic minds. This is horrible for CC. She is horrible for CC.

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No One Important's avatar

Amen to that, but do people from her district know that? Perhaps only if they read CCWD.

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

Right about that. CCWD only source of truth.

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Robert James's avatar

There are many horrors at play in 'the system'.

It's getting real concentrated now...pressures are building...hence the perceived need to lock down the courthouse with Private Security!

Can anyone say, "Police State"?🫣

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John Worthington's avatar

The Clallam County Democrat controlled dog and pony show.

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

I wouldn't even say this is a Dem thing. It's a self-important nacississtic thing. "I am always right. I know how YOU should think and if a survey doesn't support it, then ignore the evidence. I will think for you."

The Fish got herself into a position she has no qualifications to be in. And now she believe she's empowered to bully.

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John Worthington's avatar

The West Coast Democrat is different. They signed off on globalism. Unfortunately, it is a Dem thing here. Everything they do here locally is pre-scripted by global elites like Soros and even Gates. The Democrats now are running every play the ICLEI and the United Nations want to 'share the wealth.' All the Charter review Commissioners that are Democrat PCO's, Stoffer Fein, Fleck, Pitch-it are Democrat PCO's and globalists. Stoffer, Holy and Noble are school district shills and globalists. Or the Chair is a LWV shill that has partnered with all of them, is a globalist. That's seven votes. Nina was a PCO, now is the fake greeny globalist that can pretend the plan to save our forest so it "offsets' all the world emissions is worth a salt. Nina is a globalist, whether she knows it or not. That's 7 votes. Hodgson is keeping his campaign filings close to the vest..too close. He is 8 votes..https://pdc.wa.gov/rules-enforcement/enforcement/enforcement-cases/172939. I can read the global Democrat policy from the United Nations to the ICLEI, right to SERN and NODC. Its a done deal for them. 8 votes is the majority they need to follow the globalist plan to make our region a park that offsets the massive pollution caused from "sharing the wealth."

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Aleta Baker's avatar

Just look to California. They are 1st in everything, and Oregon and Washington are 2nd and 3rd.

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Robert James's avatar

YEP! True... every word!😎

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

I just hate branding all Dems by saying it's the dems. It sounds so Hillary or Omar or far left retort.

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John Worthington's avatar

Agreed on not using the broad brush. Fetterman..Hoag..

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Michael Heath's avatar

HA!

Great comment Billy T Wilson~!

Many Americans are seeing that these same criminals within the government all across the US are in fact acting like evil "Monarchs" (Kings & Queens) because their proven history is CLEARLY that of ruthless underhanded dictators~! So, it is most Ironic that they themselves have created and fostered this fake BS "No King's" crappola~! Ha Ha Ha! I am grateful that FINALLY many good Americans are starting to realize that if they really care about America and their future, all they need to do is to take a look at what these criminals of humanity are blaming others of doing because that is in fact what they are really doing themselves~! If the mainstream media is screaming about President Trump being a "dictator King", which he is clearly NOT, then we can be well assured that that same media is just covering up for their own evil agenda and those in government who are really acting like ruthless dictators and disgusting Monarchy~!

Good comment~! Sincerely, Mike

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

It's always the people who scream these bumper sticker slogans like no kings who are the real dictators. Thanks.

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Michael Heath's avatar

True words my friend~!

I have been closely profiling the "average" rank & file republican and democrat voters basically all of my life and many have seen how corrupt the democrat party leadership has become, and to their credit huge numbers of them have left the party because the party abandoned them for the gross perversion it is today. The RINO republican leadership has also done a great deal of harm to the old school conservative republican base. Anyway, what "we" (America) has today are many RINO republican infiltrators who are really democrats in a thinly veiled disguise, and basically the entire democrat party leadership that has completely betrayed the old school democrat base and now regularly betrays The American Constitution and commits treason. During President Trump's first administration I found myself in a pit of average common rabid democrat vipers who were screaming about criminally investigating President Trump, so as an old devoted American Constitutionalist I agreed that it would not be a bad idea to "audit" the federal government for a change, but ONLY on the condition that "we" also demand a complete criminal investigation of ALL previous Presidents and the entire clown show of congress going back decades~! HA~! Well, you could INSTANTLY see the hysterical glee evaporate from their ugly rabid faces, as these treasonous scumbags were suddenly faced with the prospect that the Clintons, Obama and THEIR entire "King and Queen" clown show could be investigated~!!! That was the last time I had ANY faith or trust in any democrat voter, because CLEARLY, they are the very same terroristic treasonous criminals in the population who have been working to intentionally destroy America and that is a VERY dangerous thing to prove to an American Constitutionalist~! Fortunately for them, and in keeping with the Constitution, I am a peaceful man, because they ALL admitted that they know full well that their democrat "Kings and Queens" could never survive ANY legitimate criminal investigation~! Now, these treasonous fools were just simple-minded morons, and I know that there are quite a few average rank and file democrat and republican voters who are dumber than rocks, but it is the brainwashed masses of useful idiot sheep that burdens America to the tragic destruction that is our current state of affairs. Ha! I myself was an idiot as a young child, because I actually foolishly believed that the vast majority of Americans were good and decent folks who would drop the political BS and join together when they saw the trouble that we were all in~! Oh, how wrong I was~! I still believe that most Americans are good and decent folks who generally want the same basic things, but I shall never again trust them because of what we have all witnessed and experienced, especially over the past 9 or so years... So much for the so-called "justice system" and having my life in the hands of what are jokingly called "my peers"~! HA! Fat chance~! No wonder there is SO much injustice coming out of the already crooked & corrupt legal system my friend~! So, sadly, "we" (America) has many brutal lessons ahead and I seriously doubt that this large portion of absolute fools will ever learn a damn thing so that they can become decent folks~! We will just have to deal with a large number of people who will always be more trouble than they are worth, but that does not mean that we need to listen to any of them or that we will be prevented from saving America because I see that actually happening today~! Have a great weekend! Sincerely, Mike

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Robert James's avatar

There are so many 'judges' unrestrained by common decency and higher morality.

So much judicial corruption...but of course power always corrupts when unchecked.

Sad to know the Truth behind the veil...the veil is getting very thin.😊

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Robert James's avatar

Demon-rat?🐀

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MK's avatar
Jun 20Edited

I was genuinely confused when I listened to the meeting where the results were discussed. Not only were the results dismissed as being nothing more than just information, they were also dismissed as being essentially "rigged" due to the lack of security around the survey. I went back and listen to previous meetings were the survey was being discussed and indeed heard similar language being used by the creators that it was not demonstrative of what the people actually want (my words) that it was just information. I thought to myself what's the point then? Or if it was just information in the context of all of the comments and letters the CRC had received, then how was the CRC collating all of those results, information?

When commissioner Morris was discussing the survey she clearly went over the security of it. Not a single commissioner questioned her about it at that point. Then when the results came out suddenly it was a bad survey because of some security concerns. It was like watching a criminal trial where evidence is attacked in order to show that it cannot be trusted, whether oral or physical.

What I'm left with is an immense distrust in a group of people who constantly spoke of listening to the people through a variety of means to determine action. The CRC has demonstrated that they are smoke screen, and that they are there to use their positions to push their own agenda. That evidence is in.

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Robert James's avatar

People who WANT to be in these positions can NEVER be trusted.

Only reluctant patriots/matriots should ever be asked to serve...with strict term limits...and ethics board enforcing ETHICS!😎

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Diana Henderson's avatar

Thank you, Jeff!

I wondered if anyone else wondered why water steward meetings started well before the survey went out for citizen input on a new county position?

I hope citizens will continue to ask questions. Clerk of the Board (specify “CRC”) loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov

Clallam County Charter Review-Water Committee Meeting June 25th at 9am

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3549/files/agenda/3883

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Greg O.'s avatar

This has been a growing tactic by the democrats. And they can get away with it because of mail in voting. Nobody wants to acknowledge the fact that mail in voting has no accountability. They say it's safe and secure, well I can shit in a box and mark it guaranteed but it's still shit. When will we finally get to the root of the problem instead of tip toeing around it??

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No One Important's avatar

Well said, and I agree 100%. We, the People, must have secure, in-person, positive ID, hand-counted ballots so we ALL can be assured of their accuracy and lack of corruption.

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Jeff Tozzer's avatar

Or we could just route all ballot tabulation to the private Verizon email inboxes of elected officials. Wouldn't that be secure enough?

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Robert James's avatar

Yeah, the ballots at Sunny Farms drop are picked up by people with bright vests in their PERSONAL vehicles...I'm sure there could be no problem there!

But remember even the USPS was involved in scam ballots in 2020, so the corruption is indeed ubiquitous!

Good luck CC.😬

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No One Important's avatar

ROTFL! They'd love that!

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Jon Purnell's avatar

ID required for attending an "alternative prom" (PDN 6.19.2025), but not for voting? Come on now...

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Michael Heath's avatar

GREAT COMMENT Greg O~!

Yes, our community, state, and entire country are COMPLETE laughingstocks worldwide now, where "we" will forever go down in history as some of the most ignorant and stupid people who have ever lived, just because we have allowed this mail in voting nightmare to begin and especially to tragically continue for SO many years~! One of the greatest achievements of President Trump's administration is almost definitely going to be the ultimate Federal criminalization of the mail in voting nightmare as it currently exists, where no one needs to prove their rightful & lawful ability to vote~!!! We have VERY intentionally been betrayed by the very government/s who have been, and still are, actively engaged in the mass murder genocide of Americans and people all over the world, so ALL of those who still support this highly criminal "mail in vote" are now lawfully criminally complicit in the largest scale crimes against humanity and mass treason event that the world has ever known~! It does not get any worse than that and many millions of innocent people have been disabled for life or murdered because of the absolute corruptions of the obviously intentional mail in vote assault upon America and the ORIGIONAL American Constitution~! Screw "hope" now is the time for absolutely critical and necessary "Change"~! Have a great weekend~!

Sincerely, Mike

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Robert James's avatar

Nothing to see there...move along!😱

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Diana Henderson's avatar

Care to comment? Public comments to Clerk of the Board loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov

Mark.Ozias@ClallamCountyWA.gov; Randy.Johnson@ClallamCountyWA.gov; Mike.French@ClallamCountyWA.gov

Board of Clallam County Commissioners (BOCC) WORK Session Mon, June 23rd, 9am

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3283/files/agenda/3873

Board of Clallam County Commissioners (BOCC) REGULAR Meeting Tues, June 24th, 10am public comment allowed

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3173/files/agenda/3875

Zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83692664344

ID: 836 9266 4344 passcode: 12345 Audio Only: 253-215-8782 *9 to raise your ha

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Donna Huswick's avatar

For me, trust has been broken. So, even if they do listen and respond accordingly, it will take a long time to rebuild my confidence (trust) in them.

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MK's avatar

A critical aspect of rebuilding trust is to admit to the failure, wrongdoing.

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m b's avatar

Yes, it's called integrity

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Aleta Baker's avatar

They will not. They will ignore us all because of the Tozzer Derangement Syndrome.

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

What are the symptoms of TDS?

I may have it, please elaborate .

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Jeff Tozzer's avatar

Sudden urges to check public meeting agendas.

Involuntary eye-rolling when politicians say "stakeholders."

Mild to severe skepticism toward the phrase “it's grant-funded.”

Uncontrollable muttering of "follow the money" at dinner parties.

A strong craving for transparency.

If symptoms persist, contact your local public records office :)

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Robert James's avatar

It can't be rebuilt...domestic abuse is almost never fully rebuildable!

They need to go.🤨

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Diana Henderson's avatar

Charter Review Commission

Meeting June 23rd

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3115/files

CRC Ethics Committee Meeting June 24th, 1pm

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3522/files/agenda/3858

CRC Water Committee Meeting June 25th at 9am

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3549/files/agenda/3883

Zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83692664344

ID: 836 9266 4344 passcode: 12345 Audio Only: 253-215-8782 *9 to raise your hand

Care to comment Clerk of the Board (specify “CRC”) loni.gores@clallamcountywa.gov

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Chandra Campbell's avatar

Clallam county is so corrupt

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Eric Fehrmann's avatar

Having attended every Charter Review Commission (CRC), more than some of the commissioners, I can attest to the Tozzer derangement syndrome. Shameful for those involved and dangerous for the county.

The survey results reported at the last meeting of the (CRC) did not include all comments, my comments were not included in the committee report.

I believe 80% or more of those who voted for these commissioners have no clue of what a Charter County is and even less about the candidates they voted for. Political affiliation affected the vote along with name awareness.

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Robert James's avatar

Well, we FEEL like we participated in something useful...isn't that enough?

Thank You for your service, Eric!😇

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Harold Crossley's avatar

Commissioners working fir NGOs that they allocate money to? How can anyone not see that is ripe for stealing from the County? Do we have a lawyer for the County that prosecutes that sort of conflict of interest for personal gain? Is that lawyer a live person capable of doing his job? Reminds me of Chicago, New York, and Los Angeles ways of fleecing the public.

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MK's avatar

For it to rise to a criminal violation would require more than just allocating funds. There would need to be a personal or familial financial gain to make it criminal. This is why our county ethics policy needs to be updated to keep pace with other progressive current ethics trends in government as Jeff pointed out.

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Robert James's avatar

We don't need to spend all that energy 'proving' something we KNOW is going to happen...we just need to institute the rules of common decency and understanding on which a Civil-ization is founded.

This corruption is Very uncivil but Very 'societal'!

Uncivil Society, that's what we have!😈

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Harold Crossley's avatar

It would also require an.investigation to determine whether or not there is a personal gain. That's commonly what District Attorneys investigate. Do we not have such an.office holder in this County?

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Robert James's avatar

We don't have to investigate...it's implied and inferred that there Will be conflict of interest because time and history bears out what happens when this behavior is unchecked...we are still animals first...lest we forget!😳

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Robert James's avatar

There are apparently NO righteous, moral, accountable, uncorrupted 'officials' anywhere to be seen.

RESET!😎

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

We knew one in Grays Harbor County. His name was/is Al Carter. He listened to both sides of conflict. No one paid for his campaign, he was honest and caring. He lost to a scum bag at the next election cycle. Honesty and integrity are not valued at any level in politics.

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No One Important's avatar

Thanks for the sunshine exposing corruption among the CRBC that was supposed to fight corruption. The factions within the CRC should not exist. The entire board should have created the survey, not a subcommittee. All should have agreed on the wording.

As for "Shall the Clallam County Charter be amended to prohibit County Commissioners and other elected officials from serving on the boards of nonprofit organizations that receive direct funding, contracts, or in-kind support from the County, in order to prevent conflicts of interest and ensure impartial governance?", I would change the "...from the County" to include state, federal, and foreign support.

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Robert James's avatar

We shouldn't even have to ask the question...morals and ethics are lost to the MK Ultra groups.

All this communism came through colleges and universities which we 'trusted' to educate our young...we abdicated to 'the state' and this is the result.😱

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John Worthington's avatar

For the World Economy to thrive, they need local globalist shills to keep the Olympic Peninsula a park. The World Economy shills also need to attack manufacturing and agriculture. They have the Skagit Valley, Dungeness Valley and Yakima Valley under siege with salmon revovery and "open spaces". Manufacturing is almost non-existent. Residential housing, overburdened communities and tree canopy boom, Mission accomplished. These globalists are out to disable America so it uses the World Economy. The real- time shipping map is Kryptonite to them. It's like showing a cross to a vampire. They hate seeing or hearing the truth that the environmental mantra these greenies are pushing is a fraud.

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John Worthington's avatar

Cow farts and a magic spell smell that travels west through 600 plus MPH jet stream to the Yakima Tribe. Mabton is being assaulted by tribal and Democrat globalist minions.

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MK's avatar

Could you go over the basic points of the shipping problem?

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John Worthington's avatar

Using cheap labor to do our manufacturing. There and back astronomical nautical miles and bunker fuel pollution into the jest stream. Getting basic needs cheap plastic products. That one way supply is still 25 days of bunker fuel into the jet stream. Hamburger, Americas staple bull meat 20 days from Australia, mixed with American fat shipped back out across the world has an awful environmental price. I could go on.

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

We send them timber, they send back toothpicks. We need to let go of the “cheap” attachment we have to items produced in Asia. We are killing ourselves!

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John Worthington's avatar

But that's the bread and butter of the World Economy. That is the heart and soul of the ICLEI and the United Nations. That helps pay for the NGO LLC house of cards here and all over America.

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John Worthington's avatar

Did you know 95 percent of Merican hamburger is Australian bull meat trim and American fat. Even at Sunny Farms. No way that pencil out environmentally

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John Worthington's avatar

Safeway. QFCCostco. All of them. The only place to get 100 percent American burger is through a limited local farmer supply chain

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John Worthington's avatar

Do you think someone like Nina Is going to tell McDonalds or Costco to quit using Australian bull meat. Even if she knew. The Democrats would rub her out if she tried

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Lawrence Martin's avatar

Its disconcerting thinking that my hamburger patty from Applebee's could have the combined contents of a hundred animals or more. Next time I'm ordering the Baby Backs...

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

It’s so easy, quit eating meat! Do it for a day, a week, whatever. Then you become part of the solution not a player in the problem.

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Robert James's avatar

This is classic 'Delphi Technique' where the outcome is manipulated and predetermined and then the public is 'led' to the predetermined conclusion through gaslighting, obfuscation and flat out lies!

These people are criminals in kommissars' clothing!

They need to be displaced and outed as the subversive, unconstitutional, sociopathic criminals they are!

But by what due process is that happening?

The clock is indeed running out...on our sovereign, autonomous, constitutional freedoms and rights!😎

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