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Kathy's avatar

"He (Stoffer) said he feels threatened by public commenters who have used profanity directed at him during the meetings."

Poor baby. I wonder how he'd feel if someone posted his personal information on Facebook, threatened him and nothing was done about it, as was done to Jeff? Silly me, if that happened to Stoffer he'd be provided a safety partition at meetings and 24-hour armed security. Quite the double standard.

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Kristin's avatar

To think he claims to be a tough retired Coastie but can't handle profanity or someone looking at him sideways. ROFL

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Clallamity Jen's avatar

A tough coastie, LOL. Guess he wasn’t tough enough to be a Marine. All he seems to be is another soft bureaucrat who can’t cut it in the private sector.

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Steve O.'s avatar

Why should he not pay for his own guard or buy a gun? "It never ends. It is always more these people". I am sick of taxes. I see no proper return upon my investment.

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Robert James's avatar

I want rational people to have guns, not the 'stoffers' of the world.😊

You might get shot for 'wrong-think' with those kinds of people!😱

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Jennifer's avatar

Jennifer to Jennifer R and Kristin, I agree! if words offend him he should never read a newspaper, pick up a book, listen to the news, watch a movie, go to a theater, go to a bar, overhear conversations, listen to the radio, listen to music, read this substack, nor read poetry. If he was deaf, he also shouldn't read lips!!!

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Kristin's avatar

Actually Coasties and not softies either. They do a lot that many folks don't know about. Some do but not all. It is more than rescuing folks from flipped or sinking boats though.

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Clallamity Jen's avatar

I’m not referring to all Coasties, just Jim Stoffer who has only ever been in public service. He was military, paid for by taxpayers, and after retiring all I see for him is serving on boards or commissions, all of which are not the private sector. Not making it in the private sector and being dependent on taxpayers his whole life makes him a softie.

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Robert James's avatar

Tampon-Tim was supposedly a great warrior too.🤣

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Steve O.'s avatar

My mother was very religious. We actually had a "swear-jar" located on our coffee table. Every time a profanity was uttered within public hearing distance a penny was obligated inside the jar. Since then, I have visited very few social circles in which males do not attach profanity and slurs to other males in a jocular framework. I have never met the man, but the stories indicate a neurotic individual.

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Robert James's avatar

Coastie In Name Only! Probably sat at a desk for 27 years!😊

Feel sad for him...he might be dangerous...just sayin'.🤪

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Robert James's avatar

Wow. We ALL need 24/7 armed guards!🤣

This is a time of revelation...all the shits have been given and all the shits are hitting the fan...every distorted and unhealed thing is being revealed...this will go one way for some and another way for others...say la vie.

Choices have consequences even when we don't get to see them in real-time.

Thanks to all who take the time to participate!☺️

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Steve O.'s avatar

The world is filled with ironic coincidences and Greek literature is filled with the consequences. "Poor baby", LOL I have not met the man but was surprised that he had worn a military uniform once. If that man is frightened offer him a can of bear spray before he enters a public meeting.

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Robert's avatar

This fight is all well and good, and I get it, but the only real long-term solution is to vote the current commissioners out of office. It's blatantly obvious they have a certain worldview that doesn't jibe with prioritizing the needs of the average working stiff over the wants of their friends and backers. This will be no easy task given their ties to powerful entities within the county.

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MK's avatar
Oct 13Edited

I'm additionally concerned about the independence of the Sheriff's Office. It feels like a rubber stamp to respond to a "request" based on Jimbo's word-salad, unsupported, psycho-babble.

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Teresa's avatar

I agree.

Why didn't Sheriff King and or the KINGS court, "Question" the validity of the complaint?

Was there a written complaint first to the Sheriff's dept?

How does that work... I wonder.

Perhaps that would explain why Sheriff King sat in the "gally" at one of the commissioner meetings last month.

He may have attended others-

However it did bring the question(s) :

It this a common occurrence at all meetings to have the "Sheriff" himself occupying meetings?

Or was it just because... ?

I enjoyed having him sit next to me, however... he is the man.

I bet his services can be used more efficiently, rather than to baby sit us, the (SOME) citizens of Clallam County,

I say some, because the Tribal community and the Governmental community seem to have an identity crises.

"Rubber Stamp".

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Robert James's avatar

Regimes tend to self-reinforce but they also can lose themselves because they lack integrity.

Humans, left to their own devices, cannot live in balance...we need wisdom teachings and practices by which to uplift ourselves and live in balance...we're a long way down a road to ruin...but anything is possible!😎

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Steve O.'s avatar

I agree but why does our regime lack integrity? No external restraint? Some compartments of our brains feel superior to others and should dominate any process. The balance is the constant struggle between the id, the ego and the super ego according to Freud.

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Steve O.'s avatar

I see two different reasons.

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private man's avatar

Because it is a sweetheart deal. Please read the rear side panels of OUR County Sheriff patrol SUV's. Intimidation under the color of law.

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Robert James's avatar

Yep...legal vs Lawful...anything can be made 'legal' but Law is clear and precise, based on higher wisdom and common wisdom (what has worked well over time). A guy told me today that many local governments got rid of ethics boards or committees because it became a chaos of litigation. So we just remove restraints and the kommissars do as they please, beholden only to their own warped consciousnesses and their patrons?

I don't think so...I think it should be pretty simple...things can almost always be boiled down to right and wrong, based on the idea that anything that creates a 'victim' is wrong and everything else is right...what to make of that idea?

Unworkable? If there is no oversight, no accountability, no justice, of course there can be no civilized society!

If I were to be a county commissioner, I would WANT guidance from a wide-ranging source of others, not just the echo-chamber of whatever political viewpoints I happened to ascribe to. There IS a right and wrong even if the way there is murky!😎

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John Worthington's avatar

They have fixed the voter rolls. Only thing left to do is get them for grant fraud

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Robert James's avatar

🎵Rollin', rollin', rollin'...keep them truth-bombs rollin'!🎵😊

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Steve O.'s avatar

"Don't try to understand 'em".

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John Worthington's avatar

Illegal voting

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Robert James's avatar

So true, Robert! 'There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than can be dreamt of in your philosophy.'

Let's dare to dream of Truth, Justice, Liberty, Accountability and Tough Love!😎

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Mick Fearson's avatar

Rules for thee but not for me.... Eric Fehrmann did nothing against the law. For that matter nothing the commissioners have not previously done themselves on multiple occasions with nothing being said or done about it. Stoffer, Fisch, and the rest of them don't want open communication about the problems our county is having, they simply want things their way no matter what it takes to achieve their goals. This is not Democracy it's fascism.

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Robert James's avatar

Wow...I like the clarity!😎

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Denise Lapio's avatar

If Jim Stoffer truly believed that Loni Gores, the Board Clerk, was vulnerable, he would have framed his email requests around her safety. Instead, he pleaded for his saftey and fragile ego. Also, there was no mention about Jeff's safety. How he was cussed at by a fellow CRC commissioner, Comm. Pickett. The CRC is a middle school clique and Commissioner Ozias doesn't wants to be included. The favoritism demonstrated by Sheriff King is blatant. Where was he for Jeff when he was doxxed and threatened? I remember Milke's address about SSNW responsibilities, and all I thought was CYA. These leaders are failing at every level of responsibility. We will remember their actions, because now we have references., such as internet and Public Records Requests. It is a small town, and we'll be watching.

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Mimi Smith-Dvorak's avatar

If there were a true threat concern the guard would stand outside the two exterior doors -- not sit in the corner scrolling on his cellphone.

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Robert James's avatar

Poor guy would be the first target...what a waste...what a dysfunctional government!🤪

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Robert James's avatar

Well a straight, Christian male can't be seen to be favoring any queers, now can he?

Although, it could be argued that there is much 'queerness' going on ALL THE TIME in county governance...so there IS that!🤪

I hope God IS JUST, 'cause there's not too much of it going around here in 'Lala-land'!

😊

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Jennifer's avatar

I was trying to get this straight in my head, where was this going? So I put some of the emails together and came to the conclusion that the CCC was trying to pull a rabbit out of their hat to find a reason, any reason, to gain further control in their meetings, by the use of ONE MEETING. Their reasoning started out with “threatening a public official” (which did not apply under the Revised Code of Washington-see below)

Then there was the reasoning to use the First Amendment Rights of public meetings (no real basis to that claim) then onto changing to “more formal rules” to finally, the last rabbit out of their hat was a reference to “There’s a state law saying we must control access to the state court” The state law was never quoted as a reference.

I find it laughable that we are threatened with cuts in the Sheriff’s Dept if we don’t pass ANOTHER additional tax, with decreased safety and security for the public, but somehow the Commissioner’s found funds to cover their so called need for safety and security (below)

TODD MIELKE “Typically, security in the court building, courthouse building, is DONE BY THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE through corrections officers. We have had A SIGNIFICANT SHORTAGE OF STAFF in that position, and so for the last two years, the county has HIRED AN OUTSIDE SECURITY FIRM providing security services in the courthouse. Where that would NORMALLY HAVE BEEN DONE BY CORRECTIONS OFFICERS . So, we’ve been doing that”

TODD MIELKE July 17, 2025... “Given current projections I believe the Sheriff’s Office will be able to absorb these costs in jail UNDERSPEND.”

EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES!!!!!!!!

TODD MIELKE July 17, 2025 “Threatening a public official” is addressed in STATE STATUE and should probably be considered in preparation for attending these meetings”

Todd Mielke did not site any particular STATE STATUE, but under the RCW below, there’s no basis

RCW 9A.76.180 https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.76.180

Intimidating a public servant

(1) A person is guilty of intimidating a public servant if, by use of a threat, he or she attempts to influence a public servant's vote, opinion, decision, or other official action as a public servant.

(2) For purposes of this section "public servant" shall not include jurors.

(3) "Threat" as used in this section means:

(a) To communicate, directly or indirectly, the intent immediately to use force against any person who is present at the time; or

(b) Threats as defined in RCW 9A.04.110.

(4) Intimidating a public servant is a class B felony.

MARK OZAIS Mark July 21, 2025 “RE: Security at CRC Meetings ”Todd, perhaps it would be helpful for us to establish some more formal rules”...

https://mrsc.org/stay-informed/mrsc-insight/july-2020/when-1st-amendment-rights-public-meetings-clash

LONI GORES July 21, 2025 “Here is the link to the video. The comment started at 3:43:05 into the video.

https://clallamcowa.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3116/media

TODD MIELKE July 22, 2025 “It would involve updating our county policy regarding public meetings”

TODD MIELKE September 22, 2025) ”There’s a STATE LAW that says we must control access to the courts”…

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

Yes, consolidate and surround yourself with armed personnel. Every word from the Citizen is a threat. PTA meetings next?

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Jennifer's avatar

Billy, Yep, it would be a Harper Valley P.T.A.

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Robert James's avatar

🎵This is just a little P.A. place... and they're all Clallam County Hypocrites!🎵🤪.

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Jennifer's avatar

That was the day, we socked it to the Clallam County P.T.A ; )

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Steve O.'s avatar

I have bad news. Billy Joe McAllister just jumped of the railroad bridge.

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Robert James's avatar

🤣

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Steve O.'s avatar

That was a perfect analogy.

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Teresa's avatar

Did everyone see the new "Weapon" lockboxes outside the courthouse now?

I thought, now there's a good resource of tax payer money.

?

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

Ya think the person that means to do harm will check the pistol?

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Teresa's avatar

my guess... no.

nope.

I could take my granny car and probably roll the darn metal stands over.

NOT THAT I WOULD>

DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS>

you know... we keep building walls that lead to no where.

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Robert James's avatar

Sure...violent psychopaths always obey the law!🤣

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Jennifer's avatar

Teresa, did it have a FREE Pizza vending machine next to it?

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Teresa's avatar

wait for it...

:-)

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MK's avatar
Oct 13Edited

It's where Jimbo will be storing his self-protection from the 1A.

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Robert James's avatar

🤣

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Susie Blake's avatar

not to be confused with the narcan distribution boxes

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Jennifer's avatar

Teresa, that was the affirming statement by Stoffer wrote about a heated but non-threatening public comment by Eric Fehrmann” Stoffer stated, “I will be taking steps to protect myself; but I urge you three as the elected Excective to take steps as well.”

I guess the "Weapon" lockboxes is one of the steps, besides taxpayer money for "private security" ie Moe Money wasted.

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Robert James's avatar

As a tax-paying person you have 'no standing' in any thing the government does...isn't that in the Constitution?🤪

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Teresa's avatar

Do you see the "Squirm" Jennifer?

I do.

I see cockroaches in the dark, we are the light.

ha ha!

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Steve O.'s avatar

I have moved more than a few refrigerators and when the light first exposes them they emerge as if confused eventually, they wiggle their independent antennas. Eventually they scurry away because their power is only implied.

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Denise Lapio's avatar

So many great points, Jennifer. Awesome!

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Kristin's avatar

Hear hear Jennifer!

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Robert James's avatar

Yeah, I never liked 'precedent law'!

That logic would say: 'If one murderer gets away with it, then it follows that all murderers should get away with it'!

What a weak and pathetic legal system with over 800,000 laws on the books and things just keep getting worse! I wonder what the problem is?🤣

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MK's avatar

Happy Columbus Day, btw all.

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Robert James's avatar

Notice it wasn't Christine Columbus, eh?

No offense ladies!🤣

No real woman would want to subject herself to the horrors and rigors of that life, although a few may have disguised themselves and tried...I wouldn't want to be them!😜

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Steve O.'s avatar

Without a female Columbus would not exist. We all must conduct our own duties.

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Kathy Bare's avatar

Elected officials want to be SAFE from the public WHO they work for, but outside the courthouse building drugs are being sold out in the open. There was a picture of the transaction on Facebook. Thanks to the person who photographed it. Elected officials need to get the priorities in order. Public safety FIRST.

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Randy Walterson's avatar

Jeff : your songs are what keeps me coming back . They are good for the soul !

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Jeff Tozzer's avatar

Ha! Ghostbusters next Sunday 👻

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Steve O.'s avatar

Jeff I think the theme song from John Carpenter's Halloween film might be appropriate to meme.

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Steve O.'s avatar

Perhaps "Lightning Strikes" by Lou Christie would classify our current condition.

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Teresa's avatar

My favorite was the MONSTER MASH!!

I wanna chance to sing with you!!

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Randy Walterson's avatar

Sat Oct 18 in over 2000 towns , No Kings protest which is organized by umbrella NGOs , George and Alex Soros Open Society, the Bergen Action fund , the Tides Foundation and Act Blue donation platform . These NGOs supply placards , Transportation ,and Protesters .These are Fake Grass Roots Protests (Astro turf) All of this is paid for with yours and mine Tax Dollars !

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Mick Fearson's avatar

Praying Bondi is actually going to do something and prosecute the pukes backing these fools.

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Robert James's avatar

Stand up and BE somebody!😊

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MK's avatar

Investigations are designed to bring facts to the table so that criminal aspersions can be addressed. Is the SO conducting an investigation into Stoffer's allegations, as well as Mielke's comment suggesting criminal activity was afoot? Where's the fair and impartial review?

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Robert James's avatar

Too big an ask, for this crew?☺️

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John Bowen's avatar

Why did the marches on Seattle ,Portland happen that turned into riots causing tens of millions in damage ? Because the public wants to be heard and the elected officials are not meeting with the people to hear them out talking with the people ? Of course there were bad people who used the marches as a excuse to riot so they could steal and destroy property .All could have been avoided if the city officials would have met with the people and just communicated with each other but they wouldn't .Just like the Commissioners here ignoring the peoples real justified concerns of the way this county is going ? Not sitting there at meetings like the three hear no evil ,see the evil speak no evil monkeys ,but talking with people .

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Denise Lapio's avatar

Where is Comm. French espousing destruction of property is a good thing?

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Denise Lapio's avatar

John B., Commissioner French is on record during the Floyd riots as condoning the rioters, because sometimes destruction of property needs to happen in order for people to be heard. CCWD articles have printed his quote. Sorry, I can't cite them as I am short on time. And recently French stood by these past comments.

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Robert James's avatar

BLM stole ~$86 Million dollars and squandered it on stuff you don't want to believe...see Candace Owens expose of it!😊

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Steve O.'s avatar

I am not certain that organization stole it. Idiots were duped and will be again.

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John Bowen's avatar

Doing evil so good may come is never the way .That's my point all the rioting could been avoided by not having marches just having open debate somewhere .

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Robert James's avatar

It's evil's way! Call it what it is..."by their fruits ye shall know them."😊

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Teresa's avatar

conversations with snacks.

yes.

I concur John.

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Steve O.'s avatar

LOL the situation though is predictable. The French Revolution was dedicated to equality, and the American Revolution was directed at freedom. Which has produced superior results for all humans?

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Robert James's avatar

Just not HIS property...yours is ok!😎

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Teresa's avatar

They are modeling for a civil discord in Clallam County

My opinion...

Jefferson is our neighbor... how are things going over there?

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Cindy Robins's avatar

There’s a FB page named Port Townsend News if you’re interested in corruption in the city government. Rev.Cox is the admin. I believe things aren’t going good in Jefferson, east or west.

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Teresa's avatar

Sadly I suspected.

PT has gone on Notice in my book.

Post "C" during "C"..

I embraced the vibe prior to...

Thankfully I no longer support or use FB.

I will get resources.

Thanks Cindy. :-)

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

In Portland they got a good dose of defunding the police. Those same little cry babies called 911 when they felt threatened. All was peaceful protest until dark, then the cowards cause trouble . It was/is a shit show for a once nice city.

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Susan C Bonallo's avatar

Speaking of cry babies, good grief Stoffer. You are just not that important. Your fear is when the public wants results or truthful answers. I’d be afraid to if I had lost the ability to know right from wrong. You must hold yourself in such high esteem. Well that makes one! When you are so worried about personal safety, step away from that scary place. 🙏

Please.

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Robert James's avatar

It's the EVIL part some people aren't getting...soon enough...😊

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m b's avatar

The chairs job is to maintain and direct order. She didn't even try nor did any others request she do so.

It wasn't threatening, but their attempts not to share meeting records and allow public comments and discussion was and is. It was obvious they were answering the call of others when they could not explain their intentions or changed them during other meetings. They foolishly attempted to bully each other and the citizens.

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Cindy Robins's avatar

It sounded to me like there were more than a few citizens upset at that meeting. But the majority were women who didn’t mention the name of a commissioner. I didn’t find Eric’s comment threatening. Emotional yes, but not harmful.

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m b's avatar

The high emotions of the publics expression should be recognized as a plea for better understanding. This was not a threat, but it could be a statement about who we should elect.

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Robert James's avatar

'Oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive!'😎

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UFOCCWD's avatar

Safety is a lame excuse for security,incompetent liberals just want to use security as a deterrent hoping this will keep people from raising their voices with bad comments.Liberal cowards want to act bad but do not want to be held accountable for their bad actions very common with elected reckless liberals.Liberals get butt hurt real easy when they are held accountable and do not like it so they will waste more tax $$$ trying to avoid being butt hurt.

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private man's avatar

Butt hurt.. Maybe they are crusing for a paddling.? Crusin for a paddlin

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UFOCCWD's avatar

How about cruising for a permanent disbarment.

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John Worthington's avatar

Where there is flubber. There is usually magic beans

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Teresa's avatar

I knew it!

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Kristin's avatar

Very fun new song!

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Billy T Wilson's avatar

So typical, play the victim, play the righteous threatened by the Citizens. Call out the Praetorian Guard. Cower and bow to your leaders.

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Robert James's avatar

Yeah..I think most of us are past the cowering and bowing part!😎

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