I was shocked and dismayed that a recent official statement from OMC addressing the Tylenol autism issue referred to "pregnant people". They state that they follow science? OMC is playing in politics stating that Tylenol is okay for "pregnant people". I'm a property owner and pay the salary for this new CEO. I have a right to call them out on their follow the science bullshit. They hid my comment on their post. This medical facility states that men can give birth. That's absolutely insane that a medical facility can push this narrative to follow along like sheep and Olympia is their shepherd. I said nothing disrespectful, just wanted to know the scientific proof that men can get pregnant.
I applaud you, Diane, for asking the right questions. Having worked in Special Education, I can assure you that parents of autistic children have researched and compared notes with other parents to answer "why did this happened to my child. What did I do wrong?" The most favorable conclusions they could determine were taking Tylenol during pregnancy; giving Tylenol to the infant; vaccinations of any kind. Take from that what you want. I can only reiterate their findings. During my pregnancies decades ago, the Ob-Gyn prescribed folate. I had not heard of taking high doses of it before, and he boldly told me, "You want a healthy baby, right?" That's something you don't forget. When the statistic is 1 in 31 children have autism, that's severe. You must conclude that if the medical industry and Big Pharma have no guilt or shame about harming a baby, or misinforming the public on diseases and cures and their effects on society, that their motive must always be profit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm not living in the 21st century. Have science and medicine really advanced out of the Dark Ages? I can only shake my head and either laugh or cry.
There may be a genetic predisposition to autism, but our genes have not changed 100X over the past 40 years to explain the 100X increase in autism rates. The common denominator in environmental factors strongly correlates with vaccines-- either by their content or their administration in clusters to infants. Just waiting until a child is 3 years old before given vaccinations made something like a 30X reduction in autism rates.
So all.the recent mass shootings that didn't happen forty years ago the epidemic with drug addiction ,the narcissim.that has taken over America . Simplistic, black and white thinking creating anger on every issue today created by the media to control people . The lack of humanity ,heart in America now .That doesn't point to society on large scale has psychological issues that aren't being addressed ,helped .?Does anyone really want to go back to the days of polio in this country that was virtually eliminated by vaccine .2005 there was a outbreak of polio in the Amish community because of no vaccinations. Chorine might not be the greatest thing ,but does anyone want to go back to the days of Cholera ?
Apples and bowling bowls. Maybe all the things going on from mental health issues skyrocketing to shootings to an increase in autism (or is it a better understanding and diagnosis of autism?), infant mortality, early onset of Alzheimers, increase in childhood cancers, etcetera and so on.....come from a multitude of factors? Maybe it's diet, and additives, and lack of fresh air, and fluoride in the water, and micro plastics in your water bottle, and Apeel on your avocadoes and instead of breaking things down, one by one....we just pile a pill on top of it and mask all the symptoms for all the problems. I'm beginning to think we don't cure anything at all, we just cover it with a blanket, turn off the light and tiptoe out of the room, praying that tomorrow it'll be all better. Ostrich Syndrome.
As for OMC, they continue to take the path of least resistance. If I was a business on the verge of collapse, I would look for the nearest (even if it's the most expensive) patsy to come in and either do a Hail Mary pass and pull it out of a nosedive or have a very convenient reason why it didn't work....ineffective leadership. Either way, I'm either hailed a hero for finding the right person for the right job, or I've washed my hands of the catastrophic results and slink out the door.
John Bowen, there's a very interesting history of polio. The outbreak of it was actually caused by means that you might not know. Us. We have enveloped ourselves so much that we have lost the "herd immunity". I wonder how many children got seriously sick after the Covid shutdown after not being exposed to colds and develop natural immunities?
What caused the Polio epidemics?
For centuries, protection from polio was passed down through the generations. Mothers who had survived polio infection themselves passed on immunity to their babies in the womb and through breast milk.
There are two stages to the polio infection. In the first mild stage the infection stays in the digestive system and throat and doesn’t reach the central nervous system. Most babies with maternal immunity are able to fight off the disease at this stage with only mild flu-like symptoms. At the same time, exposure to the first stage gives them their own long-term immunity.
But the unforeseen consequence of better hygiene and sanitation at the end of the 1800s was that babies in clean surroundings stopped encountering the infection while they still had maternal immunity.
So they failed to develop their own long-term immunity and were not protected when they encountered the disease later in life. And exposure to polio in late childhood or as an adult, was more likely to develop to the second, more aggressive stage of the disease.
I have been interested in the polio epidemic for awhile, and if you haven't read this book : "Dissolving Illusions - Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History", by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk, it is one I would recommend. You know, some of us got live virus on a sugar cube back in 1960....and some got polio.
Something I read recently (and damn if I can remember specifically, but I will find it) suggests that the polio vaccine itself is responsible for the outbreak of polio. Sound familiar?
You don't arbitrarily make changes, but when evidence is increasingly clear that a correlation has a causal component, only uniformed idiots would ignore it.
I was wrong saying it's the parents why the children have autism forgive me .I know couples from two different ,cultures ethnicities ,and there first was autistic so I seen that pattern ..There a must be many factors it's not black or white issue you can't point to one thing and say that's the cause .Life is very complex ..In spiritual circles they say the children are single focused to help the world .Others it's karma they have to work through ?
Thanks for the comment, John Bowen. I remember classmates wearing those ugly metal devises on their legs. I will accept my chance facing a stray bullet. In spite of all the bad news would anyone wish in the 14th Century. Even as a King.
Thanks for your incisive post. I agree. Our genes have not changed but our society has. If these studies are based upon a changing demographic, then perhaps we should study the Amish compared to our new residents.
True, but it is clear that something has changed in the past 40 years and genetics did not. It's also true that autism is nearly zero in Amish communities, where they are not vaccinated. It is also true that if vaccinations are delayed until a child is 3 years old, that the autism rate drops by 30X. So, pray tell, what's YOUR conclusion?
I wonder if the Amish use the building codes that were forced upon the rest of America like ASHRAE 62-1981. I’ll bet Amish people know how to open a window. Do there homes have window sills close to the ground? Are Amish kids playing and working outside a lot?
I have considered that vaccinations may have been over done just so they received the blame and not a bigger culprit.
It’s time to tie many things together. It ain’t just Tylenol, acetaminophen, even if it is a cause. Is Tylenol a perfectly good product when used in an environment we used to have? Is the metabolism of acetaminophen compromised and does it only become harmful because of something else? What could that something else be?
Partial pressures and the exchange of gases through a membrane, your lung tissue.
Connect SIDS, autism, ADHD, PTSD, COPD, homelessness, gender confusion, and more. Why did they spike up simultaneously with Alzheimer’s? It’s as if a switch were thrown. Can you put a date on it? BTW, it’s deliberate.
Now dementia is called diabetes, Type 3.
Diabetes was never the problem it is now until the late 1970s, early 1980s when ASHRAE 62-1978 began to be used as a guide for ventilation requirements. It reduced acceptable rates to less than half. Three years later, 62-1981 reduced it to 1/7th.
Can you deduce the real reason smoking was attacked? Not for health.
I am listening to one of those ads for an EPI medicine on the radio as I write. Do you suppose the pancreas knows how much CO2 is in your blood and doesn’t want any more? Wake up!
Hearing one of those ads about EPI as I write this. You think maybe the pancreas knows how much CO2 should be in your blood and doesn’t want more? Wake up!
Every breath we exhale contains between 4 and 5% CO2, 40,000 to 50,000 ppm.
If the CO2 is raised 1,000 ppm where you are, only 39,000 to 49,000 can exit your lungs.
That’s a 2 to 2.5 % decrease.
What are the implications for metabolism?
Many homes , schools, etc. have CO2 increases greater than 1,000 ppm.
What did ASHRAE 62-1981 do?
What have obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, and food allergies done since tighter homes with increased exhaled CO2 trapped inside with poor ventilation was forced on us beginning in the 1970s?
Add behavioral, mental, and other physical problems.
It’s 2 to 3 times as strong for children, plus they spend more time on or closer to the floor where CO2 is strongest.
Time to revisit Nuremberg. The globalists and Democrats are now a cult, a criminal cabal creating victims a la “Stalin’s Chicken” style. They found some history most of us have forgotten (Tenement House Acts, Teddy Roosevelt and Samuel Gompers, and Jacob Riis) and have reversed the good to make people sick, crazy, violent, criminal, and dependent on government.
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy
Dependency is power for them.
Start talking “crimes against humanity.” My indictment of the CDC should be all you need for a start. Millions of indoor exhaled CO2 damaged and dead children and adults (not including abortions) while the FBI and “The Law” looked the other way.
Let some people know their “just following orders” will not cut it this time either.
Come down hard on all the public health types for the cover up and damage. On their facilitators and protectors too, especially the media and anyone censoring the facts, the truth.
Don’t forget those who have been lying about the climate and using fear to force higher exhaled CO2 in tighter poorly ventilated buildings, which is a false savings of energy. It causes us to use more as explained in the link.
Let's not forget the "Science" told us the COVID vaccine was safe and the "Science" is still making that claim, which if you've been researching even a bit then you know it's BS. Let's not forget mothers who were given Thalidomide for morning sickness in the 1950's and 60's because the "Science" said it was safe. If you're not familiar with the birth defects associated with that "safe" drug, use AI to look it up: Thalidomide Babies. And please keep an open mind to the possibility that Tylenol may indeed be somewhat responsible in some way. Mothers should be warned so they can make informed choices now, while the "Science" investigates.
I offer my sympathies. My best friend's daughter was diagnosed with autism. Oddly she was a 4.0 student at the university. She seemed quiet and never engaged in swimming activities at parties.
These local criminals who act like they don't understand that ONLY women can get pregnant, are the exact same criminals who shoved ALL of the criminal COVID mandates (and dangerous & deadly fake "vaccines") down everyone's throats for years~! I have been an excellent "field investigator" (analyst) for many decades, and I can absolutely verify, and prove, that there are doctors who work in the OMC who NEVER personally take any vaccines (NONE~!), but they constantly warn their nurses & staff that they will fire them if they dare to tell the patience the truth~! That is right here in our community, but it is the same all across the US and world (with very rare exceptions). The hospital administrators and those who quietly control them, are the REAL criminals of humanity who in fact conduct countless crimes within the medical community~! Most Americans are still sound asleep, but it has actually been widely understood that "medical malpractice" has been one of the top leading reasons for the deaths of Americans for many years now~! It is NOT complicated at all, in is just difficult to accept that a great many people in the medical community could care less about the patients' health and wellbeing, or worse! MUCH worse~! We can and must do better my friend~! Sincerely, Mike
It's just WA doing what they always do. Go along to get along, even if it means walking off a cliff with the other lemmings.
We've all watched the proliferation of drugs entering the market with disclaimers that caution you on taking an anti-depressant because it may cause suicidal ideations....and take it anyways because it's prescribed. I wonder if physicians and hospitals/clinics get any sort of remuneration or incentive for using a particular drug by a particular pharmaceutical company? The answer is simple...yes, they do. So, who are they looking out for? You, or their own wallets? Do your research and ask the uncomfortable questions. You are putting your life in a stranger's hands, literally.
Teri, people think the newest drug out is the best. IMO you're just a guinea pig. Stick to the tried and true medications that have been around for years! And yes, you are correct, there is profit in the field of pharmaceuticals by doctors.
Yes Doctors are slightly rewarded for writing one Rx over another. Look it up
It will tell you how much compensation a particular drug awarded (financially) prescribing physician.
Big Pharma had their main marketing tool taken away, when law said gifting prescribers in trips, theaters tickets, mini vacas, etc . They can only use doctor time as a training tool.
Like a 23 year old can go up against a cardiologist and convince them to change to the new medication. After all Barbie and Ken spent 6 weeks training , they must know more than some old heart doctor.
I'm always amazed at that because if I remember correctly Pfizer's original concept for Viagra was to alleviate migraine suffering, until they found out it worked wonders on the little head and didn't do much for the big one. Drugs are, literally, trial and error. What works for one may be deadly for another and yet we stand in line like we're waiting for the newest designer handbag because someone told us it's a 'miracle cure'. I look at our bodies as a closed system which is the miracle, in and of itself. It's the introduction of all these foreign bodies in whatever form they take that destroy us from the inside out.
Don't get me started on breast exams because my spidey senses tell me that tumors are our bodies way of sealing off bad invaders and once you open the tumor (without simply removing it all) you've allowed the bad guys to escape and wander off hither and yon. Never could understand why you'd want to smash a breast in between two plates....but, hey, I'm not a doctor and the only skin I have in this game is my own.
That is an extremely Intelligent comment Patriot Teri Vanzant~!
Almost 20 years ago my wife & I moved to Hawaii for three years, where we learned a great many things about the corruptions of the US~! Washington State is now known all across the US as THE MOST criminally corrupt state in the US BTW~! Hawaii can't be far behind, and most Americans can easily list the top 12 or so most corrupt US states these days... Anyway, my wife is/was one of the elite best of the best in the medical community and she worked for Dr. Bakken's (Pacemaker/Medtronics) cardiologist as his diagnostic vascular ultrasound expert. Yes, absolutely, ALL of the pharmaceutical companies regularly hire attractive looking women to regularly "visit" all of the doctors that they can gain access to, so they can induce them to prescribe their name brand drugs over the competitions. These extremely dangerous "corporate drug pushers" are widely known in the medical community as "Cookie Pushers" because they have expense accounts that allow them to buy an absolutely shocking amount of completely unhealthy bakery goods & candies, so when they arrive at a given doctor's office they make sure that the entire staff is distracted by the "free sugar infused garbage" so that the "Cookie Pusher" can quietly go into the doctor's office to show the doctors the "profit schedule" that they will make under the table so no one is the wiser, if they write enough prescriptions for that companies drugs (usually per month). This under the table "kickback" from the drug companies, even on drugs that are so-called "free" to the patient, can be MANY THOUSANDS of dollars a year paid directly to the doctors who regularly sell their patients out for the money~! Believe it or not, this is the standard operating procedure of most doctor's practices in the US... It is also widely known that the corrupt doctors will regularly say that one drug is just like another, however they know damn well that is NOT true in most cases~! When pressed, many doctors will admit the differences that they may happen to be aware of, but NONE of them are chemists or have the slightest clue what is really in all of these various drugs because they never have that "need-to-know" level of knowledge that is proprietary in all drug manufacturing companies~! All of these drug companies have their own "secret sauces" and many drugs and/or drug ingredients are made in China, so good luck trying to figure out what is REALLY in them~! Medical malpractice comes in infinite forms my friend~! Oh, and the shocking number of medical malpractice injuries and deaths are ONLY those very rare cases where the legal system has actually worked by proving that the individual cases were really medical malpractice~! The doctors sure won't/don't admit it and that means that the REAL total case level of medical malpractice is FAR higher~! That is a "little" problem~! Have a great day and keep the faith, because President Trump and RFK Jr. and a number of other Patriots are risking everything and working very hard to deal with this horrible mess~! Sincerely, Mike
Michael Heath, you are so on target! The latest one is getting everyone on "statins". Drugs to lower cholesterol. It's a big push, yet it has not been proven effective and has so many side effects. Rather than educate on diet, just take this pill is the motto. Like you, it boggles my mind.
These criminals in so-called "medicine" shoved countless women into the criminally corrupt "breast exam" conspiracy and recently the truth has FINALLY been getting out about that and that as many as 70% or more women had their breasts removed due to "false positive" test results that these monsters always knew about! They murdered my own mother in that monstrous money-grubbing scheme over 30 years ago. They went after men with their "prostate exam" lies and now the truth is getting out about that, thank God. These monsters in medicine were not happy rushing to diagnose good folks as diabetic, so they simply lowered the "numbers" and "POOF" automatically dramatically increased the diabetic population for profit! Thye did the same thing with the "blood pressure" scam. These cholesterol scams have murdered countless folks because these corrupt doctors don't bother to tell you that there is good and bad cholesterol, and humans NEED good cholesterol to keep their brains healthy! Can you say "dementia"??? I have lived this absolute nightmare of the drop dead evil medical community for many decades and yes, I could prove a LOT of criminal conspiracies that have been and still are underway! Thank God for the few good doctors and medical workers who we do still have, but they are far and few between! There are very good reasons for legit testing and competent medical advice, but that is definitely NOT a common way the patients are being treated... It is VERY difficult to find the good doctors, but we are working to change that ASAP and there is a new medical matrix that has already been born that focuses upon the patients' health! Not this disgusting "sickness for profit" model! There is a "new" medical diagnostic and treatment device (technology) that will be completely changing the medical community forever, and we are working VERY diligently to bring that out to the general public~!!! Hang in there and do stay healthy~! Sincerely, Mike
Michael, I was just going to say something about the blood pressure scam, and there you said it. Yes, they changed the numbers for blood pressures (which use to be within normal range) and now many are on blood pressure medications that don't need it.
You are wound way too tight. Women are people. Girls are not fully mature women-people. Girls can give birth as can women. Men-people contribute sperm impregnating women-girl-people.
In my opinion there is no reason to pay anybody $50k / month plus travel. After working in medical field 55 years, i have seen so much excessive payment for Administration, usually causing failure of the facilities and loss of services. Even the higher level professionals are overpaid, sometimes leaving nothing for the staff (nurses, labs, xray, kitchen, maintenance, and housekeeping, who actually do the heavy patient care work. ) There is no reason to pay millions for those few at the top in admin, doctors, financial,mand consulting firms to do what the top people are suppoed to do. It boils down to incompetant people whose feel they deserve and demand such ridiculous pay. And get it, partly because they are few in number . Doesnt prove they know what they are doing.
The dollar amount doesn’t bother me. It is the results that matter. OMC is losing millions. If an interim CEO can quickly right the ship, his pay will be well worth it. We need change now! I suspect the efficiencies that are coming will more than offset his cost. If they don’t, the hospital has much bigger issues than an interim CEO pay. As a reminder there are many experts that get paid even more. Have you priced the cost of a neurosurgeon lately? Bottom line, now is not the time to gripe over past compensation decisions. Now is the time to demand structural improvement that ensures we have a financially sustainable hospital.
There is no way he can manage a $300 million budget and 1500 employees by himself. Of course he needs to hire outside consultants. I understand documentation has been one of the biggest issues for us not getting properly reimbursed. I hear the consultants are helping us improve our processes, but it is difficult when staff is already overburdened. There will be a financial update next Tuesday. We will learn more then. I suspect it will not be pretty. I think we will eventually be able to find a financially stable business model, but I worry how much the restructuring will likely impact employees and what remaining cash on hand.
If there is no way, why did not OMC commissioners bypass him and hire the consultants. Surely there is someone at the hospital that could implement new changes offered if applicable. I realize it is a mess which it would seem lies at the feet of current commissioners, for at least a lack of transparency for the public.
You do realize that the entire prior management team is gone right? CEO, CFO, COO, etc. Hospital commissioners do not run the operations of the hospital. They hire leaders to execute the daily operations as well as the long-term structural vision and business model. The interim CEO is in fact a consultant that is not a permanent solution. He is merely the turnaround guy who can hopefully fix what is a flawed business model. his hiring of specialist consultants to tackle specific issues is exactly what a leader supposed to do. The bottom line is that I used to believe that the majority of OMC‘s issues were due to state and federal regulations exacerbated because of a concentrated payer mix. Over this past nine months, it’s become more evident that at least some of the blame, and perhaps the majority, is self-inflicted. Losing the 340B program was 100% a local screwup. I have no idea the processes to requalify but the speculation is that could be an $8 million hit by itself. I suspect there’s going to be a pretty substantial cash burn during this period of restructuring. I pray they can find a viable business model without cutting too many services or running out of cash.
Many said Dr. Chen should be the interim CEO. I'm sure OMC interviewed him only so they could come out looking like they played fair. Maybe they should get rid of Gregson and hire Chen as the permanent CEO.
Kathy, so many people support what you are saying, it was repeated with the $5 CCD parcel fee, as you wrote "interviewed him only so they could come out looking like they played fair"
I would hate to see the hospital privatized for the reasons written below. I believe Dr. Chen has a better grasp of the conditions the citizens face in Clallam County and would serve us better on a personalized (not privatized) level.
I watched all 4 "interviews" closely. It was obvious there was 1 candidate (not Gregson) who was supremely impressive and qualified over the others with commitment to the local community, credentials, experience, thoughtfulness. It wasn't even close. Everyone in the public saw that. Clearly there are ulterior motives at play with the powers at be.
That is interesting because I heard Gregson was the obvious choice of all the candidates. I think the internal candidate may eventually be a great long-term CEO, but was likely not the best person as a turnaround CEO. It’s strange. I guess I hear mixed feedback on both sides. The interim CEO is not permanent, so who knows? Maybe the former internal candidate is working together with Gregson positioning for the job next? I pray he isn’t a champion of the ‘old guard’ culture, which clearly needed a reset.
$100 (that I don't have) says that Gregson has a clause in his contract that says if he's fired and replaced he'll have one heck of a golden parachute to float upon. Do you have any idea of how badly they want a scapegoat in order to pay that kind of money. The good news for him is that he'll qualify for an apartment rental.
Mark, are you knowledgeable on Dr Chen's backgound/resume? Did you watch the "interview"? He has multiple Master's degrees, including Administration & Finance. Also involved in organizing clinics. Not only intelligent, educated, but genuine care to involve employees concerns & solutions. HE IS NOT "just a good doctor". Darryl "ran" OMC right down to the ground without any health care education or knowledge, relying on "the team" to make decisions. Do think it is in our Public hospitals best ainterest to hand over thousands of $$$ to outside consulting companies or should "WE" just hand over the keys to UW for penny's on the dollar?
Then again in Darryl Wolfe's time at OMC he was, among others, financial analyst, treasurer, CFO...and look what he did for the hospital. I believe caring about the place you work and the people you work for and with makes a huge difference. Chen may not have all that financial experience, but looking at Wolfe maybe that's a good thing.
Kathy, Chen has also been in the trenches, he knows. The nurses know, the technicians know, the cleaning people know, anyone who works daily on the floors knows....know what? Where the waste is and how to improve it. Where patient care can be improved. Management starts from the bottom up, not the top down.
Just because someone is a local doesn't mean it will be a disaster. Gregson isn't a local and look at what a great job he's doing, especially when it comes to wasting money.
Great podcast. So much more than was in today’s article!
I appreciate you suggesting people give Clallam County more time. While my patience is also running thin, I am in that camp too. I have a list of “must do” within the next couple years. They are my line in the sand.
Unfortunately, I am not seeing incremental progress. I am worried the City of PA City Council has become so ideologically homogeneous (while Staff management is too bureaucratic and complacent) that both are incapable of driving real change. They consistently view their primary tasks is to pass new ordinances. I would argue their most important responsibility is to demonstrate real quantifiable outcomes (ie. measurable improvement in jobs, wages, housing, crime, education, drugs, homelessness, sales tax growth, fewer vacant and blighted properties, etc). I increasingly believe they don’t want transparency and accountability because it would only prove their ineffectiveness.
Total agreement. Several months ago, either Platapus or Westport manager stated they were opening an establishment in Seattle area.May have been a sales office. I do not know.What I do know is when he mentioned they were having trouble with the city over some things they dealing with that should be taken as a shot across the bow. For him to mention this in a newspaper interview should be concerning.
Semantics. Why vote for $30 tabs and have your now Governor tell the courts you're too stupid to understand how that will effect (affect?) the economy?
Net patient revenue (NPR) is the total revenue generated by a healthcare facility from patient services after subtracting any allowances, discounts, and contractual adjustments. It represents the amount of money collected from payors, including private insurance, self-payments, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Which PUBLIC hospitals have the highest net patient revenue?
The UCSF Helen Diller Medical Center at Parnassus Heights in San Francisco, California, is the top public hospital with over $6.15 billion in NPR. In second place is the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, with $6.06 billion in NPR, followed by the University Hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan, with $5.08 billion in NPR.
There is a list of the top 25 Public Hospitals with their NPR on:
I have written this before. Why does the tribal clinics receive more for Medicare reimbursements than private doctors.Up to twice as much in some cases. I am going to assume this is true for the hospital. I realize this is a national issue. One size fits all all.
Both private and public healthcare have their benefits, but there are many factors that make them different. From quality of care and costs to access and insurance coverage.
PUBLIC HEALTHCARE is defined as a government-managed system funded primarily through taxes. Its main goal is to give healthcare access to all of its citizens no matter their income level.
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE Private is a system that works outside of government management. It is funded through private insurance or direct payments.
Study: When public hospitals go private, low-income patients lose January 9, 2023
The reason why MEDICAID patients are worse off when hospitals go private is clear, says Duggan, whose research focuses on health economics. “Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that treating patients covered by the program is often unprofitable,” he says, adding that Medicare pays hospitals significantly more for care. “Many hospitals do not want to treat Medicaid patients given this financial hit.”
Job losses were also notable as private owners pared costs. Duggan and his co-authors estimate that full-time hospital staff declined by 8 percent on average, with many of the cuts hitting managers, medical technicians and back-office workers. They calculate, on average, a 30 percent decrease in the number of employed physicians. Privatization did not affect nursing staffs.
“The profit motive is embedded throughout the health care system, which can be both good and bad,” Duggan says. “Good in the sense that maybe things get done more efficiently, but bad in that it can end up having adverse effects for the least profitable patients who are typically poor.”
I do not see that 'Government' can efficiently run a business of any kind, including our Hospitals. Medicare reimbursement levels are determining what private insurance pays for procedures.
Jennifer, with all due respect OMC has proven to be marginally functional in its best years and an abject failure in other years. We should stop wasting time and money trying to keep this terminal patient alive. Pull the plug and move on.
Dale, be prepared for creative billing systems private hospitals have come up with. Many unnecessary lab draws and procedures all aimed at profit, also depending on your insurance (which is more important than you are) either longer or shorter hospital stays. Want to question your hospital bill? Try and figure it out. The Healthcare Billing Terms are a very lengthy and confusing list. For a reason.
I would rather remain in a system that can be corrected and serves the WHOLE community (not just the insured). A well run public hospital is possible, OMC has not been well run because the ball was dropped long ago. The past does not have to dictate the future.
Jennifer, it has not been well run because we can’t get the talent to move here. Talent is much more than medical providers. It includes administrators, clerical (a key recurring problem) volunteers, etc.
The population of Clallam does not support a hospital the size of OMC.
Smaller less complex hospitals in Forks and Port Townsend function better because they have sufficient talent.
Gregson is the guy a board sends in to slash costs and polish turds prior to an acquisition. He’s not the permanent solution. If he gets UW to takeover within a few months his comp will have been a good investment. If he’s still around in 6 months then the pitchforks should come out. I think we have to give him a little more time, but I agree his track record isn’t great.
He's a hired hatchet man. He also takes the heat off of the locals as he is an "outsider". There's a reason to spend that much money on an individual in the middle of a tsunami...he either saves the ship, or he gets buried at sea.
And, I am also thinking that some of the public hospitals' problems might be eased in the coming years, as there are over 1 million less illegal immigrants in the US. right now. Medicaid reimbursements could improve dramatically.
Ann Henninger is up for re-election on the OMC Board of Commissioners in Sequim, and I will NOT be voting for her ! Her signs are cropping up all over and I wonder who is funding her re-election?
When you look at CEO's there seems to be a reoccurring pattern when big problems come to light.CEO'S just resign for personal issues and go on a rotation process and they get praised by co workers & others for doing such a great job for their financial debacle.Do board members even take the time to do legit background checks before hiring another expensive debacle maker.
This sad, dangerous, and embarrassing episode involving our OMC here reminds me of a typical old Hollywood version of a "lawless town" that was being controlled by one or two wealthy greedy criminals for their profit & power schemes, where they would "install" a corrupt sheriff to make sure that nothing interfered with their evil "mini-dictatorship"~! This same "plot" was played out in countless TV & movie productions, in both comedies and dramas, however instead of being an example of what our society should NEVER allow to happen, we are all learning that the criminal element within America has EXPLODED with scumbags and carpetbaggers who float around America being intentionally hired to dismantle & destroy entire communities for the betterment of these same kinds of few entrenched wealthy criminals/families that exist in every corner of the US~! This "Mark Gregson" goon fits the "profile" of a modern day "hit man" (corporate raider) that instead of using a gun to kill folks in our community, uses a pen to destroy what remains of the backbone of the entire medical community here. I would expect that his salary of $50,000.00 a month ($600,000.00 per year) would be enough proof that he is not here to help the OMC and the good folks of Clallam County, but at nearly twice the pay of the President of the US is there anyone who really believes that is legit~? Who exactly were the people who actually hired Mark Gregson~? Who put those who "installed" Mark Gregson into the OMC into THEIR positions of power? What did they personally gain, and how on earth did they come to the absolutely insane assumption that hiring someone temporarily on a "part time" basis, who lives a thousand miles away and who has no ties to our community, was somehow going to be good for the OMC and Clallam County~? What if we are looking at this situation all wrong? Instead of foolishly assuming that Mark Gregson was hired to help get the OMC to correct their long history of operational disasters, because he somehow has "exceptional business abilities that no one in our community has, perhaps we should consider the very likely probability that he was really hired to cover up the long history of operational disasters and to move the hidden agenda of the criminals within our community forward as THEY have planned behind the backs of the good folks in our community? We were scammed by one "Wolfe in sheep's clothing" that was simply replaced by another "wolf" who, as soon as he serves the criminals purpose, will disappear as quickly as he came into our community, leaving an even bigger disaster in his wake without any personal accountability~! We need to investigate exactly "WHO" is behind the running of the OMC and anyone who is behind them pulling the strings~! In my 50+ years of analyzing these exact kinds of problems, I have always found greater national connections to the system of corruption that exists~! Obviously, Mark Gregson didn't just happen upon the position at the OMC, he was VERY intentionally sought after and installed into the OMC~! WHY~??? If we investigated these questions, I am abundantly sure that we would ultimately uncover the infamous "Black Hand" of the dark underbelly of organized crime that poses as "legitimate business" all across the country and even world in many cases~! Folks who look into such things are not "conspiracy theory nuts" for doing their duty to simply discover the truth, they are actually heroes who are strong enough to ignore the REAL "conspiracy theory nuts" who always assume the most ignorant things because their level of intelligence is lacking~! These severely "lacking" individuals are THE problem because they are the first line of defense for the very criminal element that uses them for cover~! Sincerely, Mike
Diane started a thread about Tylenol and autism. Denise, Mark, and No One expanded on it with vaccinations, genetics, and Amish.
Please find and read it if you haven’t. You will also find my comment there, which I am posting here separately. Apologies. Can’t help myself. Duty?
I wonder if the Amish use the building codes that were forced upon the rest of America like ASHRAE 62-1981. I’ll bet Amish people know how to open a window. Do their homes have window sills close to the ground? Are Amish kids playing and working outside a lot?
I have considered that vaccinations may have been over done just so they received the blame and not a bigger culprit.
But there are so many things not yet explained that also rose dramatically beginning at the same time, which are not explained by Tylenol or vaccines.
It’s time to tie many things together. It ain’t just Tylenol, acetaminophen, even if it is a cause. Is Tylenol a perfectly good product when used in an environment we used to have? Is the metabolism of acetaminophen compromised and does it only become harmful because of something else? What could that something else be?
Partial pressures and the exchange of gases through a membrane, your lung tissue.
Connect SIDS, autism, ADHD, PTSD, COPD, homelessness, gender confusion, and more. Why did they spike up simultaneously with Alzheimer’s? It’s as if a switch were thrown. Can you put a date on it? BTW, it’s deliberate.
Now dementia is called diabetes, Type 3.
Diabetes was never the problem it is now until the late 1970s, early 1980s when ASHRAE 62-1978 began to be used as a guide for ventilation requirements. It reduced acceptable rates to less than half. Three years later, 62-1981 reduced it to 1/7th.
Can you deduce the real reason smoking was attacked? Not for health.
I am listening to one of those ads for an EPI medicine on the radio as I write. Do you suppose the pancreas knows how much CO2 is in your blood and doesn’t want any more? Wake up!
Hearing one of those ads about EPI as I write this. You think maybe the pancreas knows how much CO2 should be in your blood and doesn’t want more? Wake up!
Every breath we exhale contains between 4 and 5% CO2, 40,000 to 50,000 ppm.
If the CO2 is raised 1,000 ppm where you are, only 39,000 to 49,000 can exit your lungs.
That’s a 2 to 2.5 % decrease.
What are the implications for metabolism?
Many homes , schools, etc. have CO2 increases greater than 1,000 ppm.
What did ASHRAE 62-1981 do?
What have obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, and food allergies done since tighter homes with increased exhaled CO2 trapped inside with poor ventilation was forced on us beginning in the 1970s?
Add behavioral, mental, and other physical problems.
It’s 2 to 3 times as strong for children, plus they spend more time on or closer to the floor where CO2 is strongest.
Time to revisit Nuremberg. The globalists and Democrats are now a cult, a criminal cabal creating victims a la “Stalin’s Chicken” style. They found some history most of us have forgotten (Tenement House Acts, Teddy Roosevelt and Samuel Gompers, and Jacob Riis) and have reversed the good to make people sick, crazy, violent, criminal, and dependent on government.
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy
Dependency is power for them.
Start talking “crimes against humanity.” My indictment of the CDC should be all you need for a start. Millions of indoor exhaled CO2 damaged and dead children and adults (not including abortions) while the FBI and “The Law” looked the other way.
Let some people know their “just following orders” will not cut it this time either.
Come down hard on all the public health types for the cover up and damage. On their facilitators and protectors too, especially the media and anyone censoring the facts, the truth.
Don’t forget those who have been lying about the climate and using fear to force higher exhaled CO2 in tighter poorly ventilated buildings, which is a false savings of energy. It causes us to use more as explained in the link.
When in doubt...change the goal lines. We see it all the time, words get redefined, genders get expanded, ideologies become all the rage and your ordinary, everyday colds and injuries become worldwide disasters. It keeps us all on our toes, keeps the cortisol pumping and leads to economic and emotional instability. I wonder if it could be contrived just to keep us off balance and unfocused? Something to think about...when you have time.
I was shocked and dismayed that a recent official statement from OMC addressing the Tylenol autism issue referred to "pregnant people". They state that they follow science? OMC is playing in politics stating that Tylenol is okay for "pregnant people". I'm a property owner and pay the salary for this new CEO. I have a right to call them out on their follow the science bullshit. They hid my comment on their post. This medical facility states that men can give birth. That's absolutely insane that a medical facility can push this narrative to follow along like sheep and Olympia is their shepherd. I said nothing disrespectful, just wanted to know the scientific proof that men can get pregnant.
I applaud you, Diane, for asking the right questions. Having worked in Special Education, I can assure you that parents of autistic children have researched and compared notes with other parents to answer "why did this happened to my child. What did I do wrong?" The most favorable conclusions they could determine were taking Tylenol during pregnancy; giving Tylenol to the infant; vaccinations of any kind. Take from that what you want. I can only reiterate their findings. During my pregnancies decades ago, the Ob-Gyn prescribed folate. I had not heard of taking high doses of it before, and he boldly told me, "You want a healthy baby, right?" That's something you don't forget. When the statistic is 1 in 31 children have autism, that's severe. You must conclude that if the medical industry and Big Pharma have no guilt or shame about harming a baby, or misinforming the public on diseases and cures and their effects on society, that their motive must always be profit.
Has OMC addressed this problem? The future does not seem bright. A failing hospital and increasing levels of autism.
Sometimes I feel like I'm not living in the 21st century. Have science and medicine really advanced out of the Dark Ages? I can only shake my head and either laugh or cry.
There may be a genetic predisposition to autism, but our genes have not changed 100X over the past 40 years to explain the 100X increase in autism rates. The common denominator in environmental factors strongly correlates with vaccines-- either by their content or their administration in clusters to infants. Just waiting until a child is 3 years old before given vaccinations made something like a 30X reduction in autism rates.
So all.the recent mass shootings that didn't happen forty years ago the epidemic with drug addiction ,the narcissim.that has taken over America . Simplistic, black and white thinking creating anger on every issue today created by the media to control people . The lack of humanity ,heart in America now .That doesn't point to society on large scale has psychological issues that aren't being addressed ,helped .?Does anyone really want to go back to the days of polio in this country that was virtually eliminated by vaccine .2005 there was a outbreak of polio in the Amish community because of no vaccinations. Chorine might not be the greatest thing ,but does anyone want to go back to the days of Cholera ?
Apples and bowling bowls. Maybe all the things going on from mental health issues skyrocketing to shootings to an increase in autism (or is it a better understanding and diagnosis of autism?), infant mortality, early onset of Alzheimers, increase in childhood cancers, etcetera and so on.....come from a multitude of factors? Maybe it's diet, and additives, and lack of fresh air, and fluoride in the water, and micro plastics in your water bottle, and Apeel on your avocadoes and instead of breaking things down, one by one....we just pile a pill on top of it and mask all the symptoms for all the problems. I'm beginning to think we don't cure anything at all, we just cover it with a blanket, turn off the light and tiptoe out of the room, praying that tomorrow it'll be all better. Ostrich Syndrome.
As for OMC, they continue to take the path of least resistance. If I was a business on the verge of collapse, I would look for the nearest (even if it's the most expensive) patsy to come in and either do a Hail Mary pass and pull it out of a nosedive or have a very convenient reason why it didn't work....ineffective leadership. Either way, I'm either hailed a hero for finding the right person for the right job, or I've washed my hands of the catastrophic results and slink out the door.
"Patsy". That is very robust language. "Slink out the door". What wonderful metaphors.
John Bowen, there's a very interesting history of polio. The outbreak of it was actually caused by means that you might not know. Us. We have enveloped ourselves so much that we have lost the "herd immunity". I wonder how many children got seriously sick after the Covid shutdown after not being exposed to colds and develop natural immunities?
What caused the Polio epidemics?
For centuries, protection from polio was passed down through the generations. Mothers who had survived polio infection themselves passed on immunity to their babies in the womb and through breast milk.
There are two stages to the polio infection. In the first mild stage the infection stays in the digestive system and throat and doesn’t reach the central nervous system. Most babies with maternal immunity are able to fight off the disease at this stage with only mild flu-like symptoms. At the same time, exposure to the first stage gives them their own long-term immunity.
But the unforeseen consequence of better hygiene and sanitation at the end of the 1800s was that babies in clean surroundings stopped encountering the infection while they still had maternal immunity.
So they failed to develop their own long-term immunity and were not protected when they encountered the disease later in life. And exposure to polio in late childhood or as an adult, was more likely to develop to the second, more aggressive stage of the disease.
I have been interested in the polio epidemic for awhile, and if you haven't read this book : "Dissolving Illusions - Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History", by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk, it is one I would recommend. You know, some of us got live virus on a sugar cube back in 1960....and some got polio.
Something I read recently (and damn if I can remember specifically, but I will find it) suggests that the polio vaccine itself is responsible for the outbreak of polio. Sound familiar?
That was very interesting
The mosquito has killed more humans than all the wars and battles waged against each other. In earlier times botulism was not uncommon on farms.
You don't arbitrarily make changes, but when evidence is increasingly clear that a correlation has a causal component, only uniformed idiots would ignore it.
I was wrong saying it's the parents why the children have autism forgive me .I know couples from two different ,cultures ethnicities ,and there first was autistic so I seen that pattern ..There a must be many factors it's not black or white issue you can't point to one thing and say that's the cause .Life is very complex ..In spiritual circles they say the children are single focused to help the world .Others it's karma they have to work through ?
Thanks for the comment, John Bowen. I remember classmates wearing those ugly metal devises on their legs. I will accept my chance facing a stray bullet. In spite of all the bad news would anyone wish in the 14th Century. Even as a King.
Thanks for your incisive post. I agree. Our genes have not changed but our society has. If these studies are based upon a changing demographic, then perhaps we should study the Amish compared to our new residents.
True, but it is clear that something has changed in the past 40 years and genetics did not. It's also true that autism is nearly zero in Amish communities, where they are not vaccinated. It is also true that if vaccinations are delayed until a child is 3 years old, that the autism rate drops by 30X. So, pray tell, what's YOUR conclusion?
I wonder if the Amish use the building codes that were forced upon the rest of America like ASHRAE 62-1981. I’ll bet Amish people know how to open a window. Do there homes have window sills close to the ground? Are Amish kids playing and working outside a lot?
I have considered that vaccinations may have been over done just so they received the blame and not a bigger culprit.
It’s time to tie many things together. It ain’t just Tylenol, acetaminophen, even if it is a cause. Is Tylenol a perfectly good product when used in an environment we used to have? Is the metabolism of acetaminophen compromised and does it only become harmful because of something else? What could that something else be?
Partial pressures and the exchange of gases through a membrane, your lung tissue.
Connect SIDS, autism, ADHD, PTSD, COPD, homelessness, gender confusion, and more. Why did they spike up simultaneously with Alzheimer’s? It’s as if a switch were thrown. Can you put a date on it? BTW, it’s deliberate.
Now dementia is called diabetes, Type 3.
Diabetes was never the problem it is now until the late 1970s, early 1980s when ASHRAE 62-1978 began to be used as a guide for ventilation requirements. It reduced acceptable rates to less than half. Three years later, 62-1981 reduced it to 1/7th.
Can you deduce the real reason smoking was attacked? Not for health.
I am listening to one of those ads for an EPI medicine on the radio as I write. Do you suppose the pancreas knows how much CO2 is in your blood and doesn’t want any more? Wake up!
Hearing one of those ads about EPI as I write this. You think maybe the pancreas knows how much CO2 should be in your blood and doesn’t want more? Wake up!
Every breath we exhale contains between 4 and 5% CO2, 40,000 to 50,000 ppm.
If the CO2 is raised 1,000 ppm where you are, only 39,000 to 49,000 can exit your lungs.
That’s a 2 to 2.5 % decrease.
What are the implications for metabolism?
Many homes , schools, etc. have CO2 increases greater than 1,000 ppm.
What did ASHRAE 62-1981 do?
What have obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, and food allergies done since tighter homes with increased exhaled CO2 trapped inside with poor ventilation was forced on us beginning in the 1970s?
Add behavioral, mental, and other physical problems.
It’s 2 to 3 times as strong for children, plus they spend more time on or closer to the floor where CO2 is strongest.
Time to revisit Nuremberg. The globalists and Democrats are now a cult, a criminal cabal creating victims a la “Stalin’s Chicken” style. They found some history most of us have forgotten (Tenement House Acts, Teddy Roosevelt and Samuel Gompers, and Jacob Riis) and have reversed the good to make people sick, crazy, violent, criminal, and dependent on government.
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy
Dependency is power for them.
Start talking “crimes against humanity.” My indictment of the CDC should be all you need for a start. Millions of indoor exhaled CO2 damaged and dead children and adults (not including abortions) while the FBI and “The Law” looked the other way.
Let some people know their “just following orders” will not cut it this time either.
Come down hard on all the public health types for the cover up and damage. On their facilitators and protectors too, especially the media and anyone censoring the facts, the truth.
Don’t forget those who have been lying about the climate and using fear to force higher exhaled CO2 in tighter poorly ventilated buildings, which is a false savings of energy. It causes us to use more as explained in the link.
conspAIRacy.com/evilcdc.html
Mark Swanson I heard that phrase in very class except "shop" and English Literature.
Let's not forget the "Science" told us the COVID vaccine was safe and the "Science" is still making that claim, which if you've been researching even a bit then you know it's BS. Let's not forget mothers who were given Thalidomide for morning sickness in the 1950's and 60's because the "Science" said it was safe. If you're not familiar with the birth defects associated with that "safe" drug, use AI to look it up: Thalidomide Babies. And please keep an open mind to the possibility that Tylenol may indeed be somewhat responsible in some way. Mothers should be warned so they can make informed choices now, while the "Science" investigates.
Mark Swanson oh God! Once again, we face the perennial debate involving Nature vs Nurture. Which is probably true.
I offer my sympathies. My best friend's daughter was diagnosed with autism. Oddly she was a 4.0 student at the university. She seemed quiet and never engaged in swimming activities at parties.
Great comment Patriot Diane Maikui~!
These local criminals who act like they don't understand that ONLY women can get pregnant, are the exact same criminals who shoved ALL of the criminal COVID mandates (and dangerous & deadly fake "vaccines") down everyone's throats for years~! I have been an excellent "field investigator" (analyst) for many decades, and I can absolutely verify, and prove, that there are doctors who work in the OMC who NEVER personally take any vaccines (NONE~!), but they constantly warn their nurses & staff that they will fire them if they dare to tell the patience the truth~! That is right here in our community, but it is the same all across the US and world (with very rare exceptions). The hospital administrators and those who quietly control them, are the REAL criminals of humanity who in fact conduct countless crimes within the medical community~! Most Americans are still sound asleep, but it has actually been widely understood that "medical malpractice" has been one of the top leading reasons for the deaths of Americans for many years now~! It is NOT complicated at all, in is just difficult to accept that a great many people in the medical community could care less about the patients' health and wellbeing, or worse! MUCH worse~! We can and must do better my friend~! Sincerely, Mike
It's just WA doing what they always do. Go along to get along, even if it means walking off a cliff with the other lemmings.
We've all watched the proliferation of drugs entering the market with disclaimers that caution you on taking an anti-depressant because it may cause suicidal ideations....and take it anyways because it's prescribed. I wonder if physicians and hospitals/clinics get any sort of remuneration or incentive for using a particular drug by a particular pharmaceutical company? The answer is simple...yes, they do. So, who are they looking out for? You, or their own wallets? Do your research and ask the uncomfortable questions. You are putting your life in a stranger's hands, literally.
Teri, people think the newest drug out is the best. IMO you're just a guinea pig. Stick to the tried and true medications that have been around for years! And yes, you are correct, there is profit in the field of pharmaceuticals by doctors.
Remember the old fashioned way to treat a cold? Aspirin and Sucrets. Colds once lasted 3 - 4 days. Now 3 - 4 weeks. Something's not right.
Yes Doctors are slightly rewarded for writing one Rx over another. Look it up
It will tell you how much compensation a particular drug awarded (financially) prescribing physician.
Big Pharma had their main marketing tool taken away, when law said gifting prescribers in trips, theaters tickets, mini vacas, etc . They can only use doctor time as a training tool.
Like a 23 year old can go up against a cardiologist and convince them to change to the new medication. After all Barbie and Ken spent 6 weeks training , they must know more than some old heart doctor.
I'm always amazed at that because if I remember correctly Pfizer's original concept for Viagra was to alleviate migraine suffering, until they found out it worked wonders on the little head and didn't do much for the big one. Drugs are, literally, trial and error. What works for one may be deadly for another and yet we stand in line like we're waiting for the newest designer handbag because someone told us it's a 'miracle cure'. I look at our bodies as a closed system which is the miracle, in and of itself. It's the introduction of all these foreign bodies in whatever form they take that destroy us from the inside out.
Don't get me started on breast exams because my spidey senses tell me that tumors are our bodies way of sealing off bad invaders and once you open the tumor (without simply removing it all) you've allowed the bad guys to escape and wander off hither and yon. Never could understand why you'd want to smash a breast in between two plates....but, hey, I'm not a doctor and the only skin I have in this game is my own.
That is an extremely Intelligent comment Patriot Teri Vanzant~!
Almost 20 years ago my wife & I moved to Hawaii for three years, where we learned a great many things about the corruptions of the US~! Washington State is now known all across the US as THE MOST criminally corrupt state in the US BTW~! Hawaii can't be far behind, and most Americans can easily list the top 12 or so most corrupt US states these days... Anyway, my wife is/was one of the elite best of the best in the medical community and she worked for Dr. Bakken's (Pacemaker/Medtronics) cardiologist as his diagnostic vascular ultrasound expert. Yes, absolutely, ALL of the pharmaceutical companies regularly hire attractive looking women to regularly "visit" all of the doctors that they can gain access to, so they can induce them to prescribe their name brand drugs over the competitions. These extremely dangerous "corporate drug pushers" are widely known in the medical community as "Cookie Pushers" because they have expense accounts that allow them to buy an absolutely shocking amount of completely unhealthy bakery goods & candies, so when they arrive at a given doctor's office they make sure that the entire staff is distracted by the "free sugar infused garbage" so that the "Cookie Pusher" can quietly go into the doctor's office to show the doctors the "profit schedule" that they will make under the table so no one is the wiser, if they write enough prescriptions for that companies drugs (usually per month). This under the table "kickback" from the drug companies, even on drugs that are so-called "free" to the patient, can be MANY THOUSANDS of dollars a year paid directly to the doctors who regularly sell their patients out for the money~! Believe it or not, this is the standard operating procedure of most doctor's practices in the US... It is also widely known that the corrupt doctors will regularly say that one drug is just like another, however they know damn well that is NOT true in most cases~! When pressed, many doctors will admit the differences that they may happen to be aware of, but NONE of them are chemists or have the slightest clue what is really in all of these various drugs because they never have that "need-to-know" level of knowledge that is proprietary in all drug manufacturing companies~! All of these drug companies have their own "secret sauces" and many drugs and/or drug ingredients are made in China, so good luck trying to figure out what is REALLY in them~! Medical malpractice comes in infinite forms my friend~! Oh, and the shocking number of medical malpractice injuries and deaths are ONLY those very rare cases where the legal system has actually worked by proving that the individual cases were really medical malpractice~! The doctors sure won't/don't admit it and that means that the REAL total case level of medical malpractice is FAR higher~! That is a "little" problem~! Have a great day and keep the faith, because President Trump and RFK Jr. and a number of other Patriots are risking everything and working very hard to deal with this horrible mess~! Sincerely, Mike
Michael Heath, you are so on target! The latest one is getting everyone on "statins". Drugs to lower cholesterol. It's a big push, yet it has not been proven effective and has so many side effects. Rather than educate on diet, just take this pill is the motto. Like you, it boggles my mind.
Yes, wonderful Jennifer~!
These criminals in so-called "medicine" shoved countless women into the criminally corrupt "breast exam" conspiracy and recently the truth has FINALLY been getting out about that and that as many as 70% or more women had their breasts removed due to "false positive" test results that these monsters always knew about! They murdered my own mother in that monstrous money-grubbing scheme over 30 years ago. They went after men with their "prostate exam" lies and now the truth is getting out about that, thank God. These monsters in medicine were not happy rushing to diagnose good folks as diabetic, so they simply lowered the "numbers" and "POOF" automatically dramatically increased the diabetic population for profit! Thye did the same thing with the "blood pressure" scam. These cholesterol scams have murdered countless folks because these corrupt doctors don't bother to tell you that there is good and bad cholesterol, and humans NEED good cholesterol to keep their brains healthy! Can you say "dementia"??? I have lived this absolute nightmare of the drop dead evil medical community for many decades and yes, I could prove a LOT of criminal conspiracies that have been and still are underway! Thank God for the few good doctors and medical workers who we do still have, but they are far and few between! There are very good reasons for legit testing and competent medical advice, but that is definitely NOT a common way the patients are being treated... It is VERY difficult to find the good doctors, but we are working to change that ASAP and there is a new medical matrix that has already been born that focuses upon the patients' health! Not this disgusting "sickness for profit" model! There is a "new" medical diagnostic and treatment device (technology) that will be completely changing the medical community forever, and we are working VERY diligently to bring that out to the general public~!!! Hang in there and do stay healthy~! Sincerely, Mike
Michael, I was just going to say something about the blood pressure scam, and there you said it. Yes, they changed the numbers for blood pressures (which use to be within normal range) and now many are on blood pressure medications that don't need it.
Can't wait to read about the new technology.
Pregnant people, yeah, right... I have noticed that, also. That is what they teach at Peninsula College, isn't it?
Ha Ha Diane! Apparently medical science cannot be separated from political imperatives.
You are wound way too tight. Women are people. Girls are not fully mature women-people. Girls can give birth as can women. Men-people contribute sperm impregnating women-girl-people.
In my opinion there is no reason to pay anybody $50k / month plus travel. After working in medical field 55 years, i have seen so much excessive payment for Administration, usually causing failure of the facilities and loss of services. Even the higher level professionals are overpaid, sometimes leaving nothing for the staff (nurses, labs, xray, kitchen, maintenance, and housekeeping, who actually do the heavy patient care work. ) There is no reason to pay millions for those few at the top in admin, doctors, financial,mand consulting firms to do what the top people are suppoed to do. It boils down to incompetant people whose feel they deserve and demand such ridiculous pay. And get it, partly because they are few in number . Doesnt prove they know what they are doing.
The dollar amount doesn’t bother me. It is the results that matter. OMC is losing millions. If an interim CEO can quickly right the ship, his pay will be well worth it. We need change now! I suspect the efficiencies that are coming will more than offset his cost. If they don’t, the hospital has much bigger issues than an interim CEO pay. As a reminder there are many experts that get paid even more. Have you priced the cost of a neurosurgeon lately? Bottom line, now is not the time to gripe over past compensation decisions. Now is the time to demand structural improvement that ensures we have a financially sustainable hospital.
Have you looked at the CEO’s history? If my declining memory is correct he hired another consulting firm to do what he is paid to do.
There is no way he can manage a $300 million budget and 1500 employees by himself. Of course he needs to hire outside consultants. I understand documentation has been one of the biggest issues for us not getting properly reimbursed. I hear the consultants are helping us improve our processes, but it is difficult when staff is already overburdened. There will be a financial update next Tuesday. We will learn more then. I suspect it will not be pretty. I think we will eventually be able to find a financially stable business model, but I worry how much the restructuring will likely impact employees and what remaining cash on hand.
If there is no way, why did not OMC commissioners bypass him and hire the consultants. Surely there is someone at the hospital that could implement new changes offered if applicable. I realize it is a mess which it would seem lies at the feet of current commissioners, for at least a lack of transparency for the public.
You do realize that the entire prior management team is gone right? CEO, CFO, COO, etc. Hospital commissioners do not run the operations of the hospital. They hire leaders to execute the daily operations as well as the long-term structural vision and business model. The interim CEO is in fact a consultant that is not a permanent solution. He is merely the turnaround guy who can hopefully fix what is a flawed business model. his hiring of specialist consultants to tackle specific issues is exactly what a leader supposed to do. The bottom line is that I used to believe that the majority of OMC‘s issues were due to state and federal regulations exacerbated because of a concentrated payer mix. Over this past nine months, it’s become more evident that at least some of the blame, and perhaps the majority, is self-inflicted. Losing the 340B program was 100% a local screwup. I have no idea the processes to requalify but the speculation is that could be an $8 million hit by itself. I suspect there’s going to be a pretty substantial cash burn during this period of restructuring. I pray they can find a viable business model without cutting too many services or running out of cash.
The reason is NO ONE who was qualified was willingly to come to Clallam for less $$$
..."Gregson himself stepped down in January 2017, replaced by a permanent CEO"
Is Gregson a zombie? His history (not just Estes Park) shows a pattern of battles in which he slain, only to get back up, feed and terrorize again.
OMC needs a LOCAL permanent CEO who can run the hospital efficiently and dig it out of the hole it is in. It can be done.
Many said Dr. Chen should be the interim CEO. I'm sure OMC interviewed him only so they could come out looking like they played fair. Maybe they should get rid of Gregson and hire Chen as the permanent CEO.
Kathy, so many people support what you are saying, it was repeated with the $5 CCD parcel fee, as you wrote "interviewed him only so they could come out looking like they played fair"
I would hate to see the hospital privatized for the reasons written below. I believe Dr. Chen has a better grasp of the conditions the citizens face in Clallam County and would serve us better on a personalized (not privatized) level.
I watched all 4 "interviews" closely. It was obvious there was 1 candidate (not Gregson) who was supremely impressive and qualified over the others with commitment to the local community, credentials, experience, thoughtfulness. It wasn't even close. Everyone in the public saw that. Clearly there are ulterior motives at play with the powers at be.
That is interesting because I heard Gregson was the obvious choice of all the candidates. I think the internal candidate may eventually be a great long-term CEO, but was likely not the best person as a turnaround CEO. It’s strange. I guess I hear mixed feedback on both sides. The interim CEO is not permanent, so who knows? Maybe the former internal candidate is working together with Gregson positioning for the job next? I pray he isn’t a champion of the ‘old guard’ culture, which clearly needed a reset.
Absolutely!
$100 (that I don't have) says that Gregson has a clause in his contract that says if he's fired and replaced he'll have one heck of a golden parachute to float upon. Do you have any idea of how badly they want a scapegoat in order to pay that kind of money. The good news for him is that he'll qualify for an apartment rental.
Teri, but will it have a dog wash?
He’s not qualified
Mark, are you knowledgeable on Dr Chen's backgound/resume? Did you watch the "interview"? He has multiple Master's degrees, including Administration & Finance. Also involved in organizing clinics. Not only intelligent, educated, but genuine care to involve employees concerns & solutions. HE IS NOT "just a good doctor". Darryl "ran" OMC right down to the ground without any health care education or knowledge, relying on "the team" to make decisions. Do think it is in our Public hospitals best ainterest to hand over thousands of $$$ to outside consulting companies or should "WE" just hand over the keys to UW for penny's on the dollar?
Then again in Darryl Wolfe's time at OMC he was, among others, financial analyst, treasurer, CFO...and look what he did for the hospital. I believe caring about the place you work and the people you work for and with makes a huge difference. Chen may not have all that financial experience, but looking at Wolfe maybe that's a good thing.
Kathy, Chen has also been in the trenches, he knows. The nurses know, the technicians know, the cleaning people know, anyone who works daily on the floors knows....know what? Where the waste is and how to improve it. Where patient care can be improved. Management starts from the bottom up, not the top down.
Well said, thank you.
Dr. Chen is not Darryl Wolfe.
Just because someone is a local doesn't mean it will be a disaster. Gregson isn't a local and look at what a great job he's doing, especially when it comes to wasting money.
Maybe that's precisely why he would make a good CEO.
Raped and pillaged.
Tried to send this to you via DM but it failed. Just in case you're interested for whatever reason.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/r06/olympic/newsroom/releases/public-invited-provide-feedback-draft-canyon-environmental-assessment?fbclid=IwdGRjcANETF9jbGNrA0RMW2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEexKFov94jvGgvaHllY47jVOQe_SPs9661GgY5y-IZv0POEUGMHSuhWR1u72M_aem_JczKIew8mm9EoLsz8DVBbA
It could be done but won’t be done. ✔️
Great podcast. So much more than was in today’s article!
I appreciate you suggesting people give Clallam County more time. While my patience is also running thin, I am in that camp too. I have a list of “must do” within the next couple years. They are my line in the sand.
Unfortunately, I am not seeing incremental progress. I am worried the City of PA City Council has become so ideologically homogeneous (while Staff management is too bureaucratic and complacent) that both are incapable of driving real change. They consistently view their primary tasks is to pass new ordinances. I would argue their most important responsibility is to demonstrate real quantifiable outcomes (ie. measurable improvement in jobs, wages, housing, crime, education, drugs, homelessness, sales tax growth, fewer vacant and blighted properties, etc). I increasingly believe they don’t want transparency and accountability because it would only prove their ineffectiveness.
Total agreement. Several months ago, either Platapus or Westport manager stated they were opening an establishment in Seattle area.May have been a sales office. I do not know.What I do know is when he mentioned they were having trouble with the city over some things they dealing with that should be taken as a shot across the bow. For him to mention this in a newspaper interview should be concerning.
Ho Hum. The corrupt leading the corrupt. What else is new? I'll scratch your corrupt back if you scratch mine.
More to the point, if OMC is publicly owned, why did the public not have a say in who hires whom and what the policies are?
Semantics. Why vote for $30 tabs and have your now Governor tell the courts you're too stupid to understand how that will effect (affect?) the economy?
Privatization of OMC is the solution unless you want never ending tax increases.
Hard to decide this. Jennifer brings up the question of private vs. government.
Eric, logically look at:
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE is profit minded
PUBLIC HEALTHCARE is sustainability minded
Keeping OMC public and being able to run it at a sustainable level gives access to all levels of income in Clallam County. It can and has been done.
Public healthcare is inefficient and largely unaccountable for their decisions.
NOI, Those problems can be corrected under the right management. There are successful public healthcare hospitals.
Net patient revenue (NPR) is the total revenue generated by a healthcare facility from patient services after subtracting any allowances, discounts, and contractual adjustments. It represents the amount of money collected from payors, including private insurance, self-payments, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Which PUBLIC hospitals have the highest net patient revenue?
The UCSF Helen Diller Medical Center at Parnassus Heights in San Francisco, California, is the top public hospital with over $6.15 billion in NPR. In second place is the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, with $6.06 billion in NPR, followed by the University Hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan, with $5.08 billion in NPR.
There is a list of the top 25 Public Hospitals with their NPR on:
https://www.definitivehc.com/resources/healthcare-insights/top-public-hospitals-us
I have written this before. Why does the tribal clinics receive more for Medicare reimbursements than private doctors.Up to twice as much in some cases. I am going to assume this is true for the hospital. I realize this is a national issue. One size fits all all.
Those are all VERY wealthy areas... and some are teaching hospitals. Doesn't compare to our situation.
Both private and public healthcare have their benefits, but there are many factors that make them different. From quality of care and costs to access and insurance coverage.
PUBLIC HEALTHCARE is defined as a government-managed system funded primarily through taxes. Its main goal is to give healthcare access to all of its citizens no matter their income level.
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE Private is a system that works outside of government management. It is funded through private insurance or direct payments.
https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/study-when-public-hospitals-go-private-low-income-patients-lose
Study: When public hospitals go private, low-income patients lose January 9, 2023
The reason why MEDICAID patients are worse off when hospitals go private is clear, says Duggan, whose research focuses on health economics. “Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that treating patients covered by the program is often unprofitable,” he says, adding that Medicare pays hospitals significantly more for care. “Many hospitals do not want to treat Medicaid patients given this financial hit.”
Job losses were also notable as private owners pared costs. Duggan and his co-authors estimate that full-time hospital staff declined by 8 percent on average, with many of the cuts hitting managers, medical technicians and back-office workers. They calculate, on average, a 30 percent decrease in the number of employed physicians. Privatization did not affect nursing staffs.
“The profit motive is embedded throughout the health care system, which can be both good and bad,” Duggan says. “Good in the sense that maybe things get done more efficiently, but bad in that it can end up having adverse effects for the least profitable patients who are typically poor.”
I do not see that 'Government' can efficiently run a business of any kind, including our Hospitals. Medicare reimbursement levels are determining what private insurance pays for procedures.
Jennifer, with all due respect OMC has proven to be marginally functional in its best years and an abject failure in other years. We should stop wasting time and money trying to keep this terminal patient alive. Pull the plug and move on.
Dale, be prepared for creative billing systems private hospitals have come up with. Many unnecessary lab draws and procedures all aimed at profit, also depending on your insurance (which is more important than you are) either longer or shorter hospital stays. Want to question your hospital bill? Try and figure it out. The Healthcare Billing Terms are a very lengthy and confusing list. For a reason.
I would rather remain in a system that can be corrected and serves the WHOLE community (not just the insured). A well run public hospital is possible, OMC has not been well run because the ball was dropped long ago. The past does not have to dictate the future.
Jennifer, it has not been well run because we can’t get the talent to move here. Talent is much more than medical providers. It includes administrators, clerical (a key recurring problem) volunteers, etc.
The population of Clallam does not support a hospital the size of OMC.
Smaller less complex hospitals in Forks and Port Townsend function better because they have sufficient talent.
How do we know that's going to happen?
Enjoyed listening to your time on KSQM Jeff. You need to take them up on the offer to DJ for them. You were a natural at the mic.
It was fun. I'd love to volunteer there, but there are a TON of buttons.
"Déjà vu all over again?"
Haha! Nice Yogi Berra reference!
We've got to get more quotes from him in these articles!
Well, "it ain't over, 'til it's over!" ;)
Gregson is the guy a board sends in to slash costs and polish turds prior to an acquisition. He’s not the permanent solution. If he gets UW to takeover within a few months his comp will have been a good investment. If he’s still around in 6 months then the pitchforks should come out. I think we have to give him a little more time, but I agree his track record isn’t great.
He's a hired hatchet man. He also takes the heat off of the locals as he is an "outsider". There's a reason to spend that much money on an individual in the middle of a tsunami...he either saves the ship, or he gets buried at sea.
And, I am also thinking that some of the public hospitals' problems might be eased in the coming years, as there are over 1 million less illegal immigrants in the US. right now. Medicaid reimbursements could improve dramatically.
Ann Henninger is up for re-election on the OMC Board of Commissioners in Sequim, and I will NOT be voting for her ! Her signs are cropping up all over and I wonder who is funding her re-election?
She has a sign in front of Ron Allen's home in Sequim.
OOOOHHH. Now we know, maybe?
A red herring
who's a red herring?
Salmon
So far, no one.
https://www.pdc.wa.gov/political-disclosure-reporting-data/browse-search-data/candidates/3326135
When you look at CEO's there seems to be a reoccurring pattern when big problems come to light.CEO'S just resign for personal issues and go on a rotation process and they get praised by co workers & others for doing such a great job for their financial debacle.Do board members even take the time to do legit background checks before hiring another expensive debacle maker.
Take a look at First Fed.
First federal schools hospitals wherever a CEO is located no accountability for incompetence or sticky fingers just quit and go on to the next target.
This sad, dangerous, and embarrassing episode involving our OMC here reminds me of a typical old Hollywood version of a "lawless town" that was being controlled by one or two wealthy greedy criminals for their profit & power schemes, where they would "install" a corrupt sheriff to make sure that nothing interfered with their evil "mini-dictatorship"~! This same "plot" was played out in countless TV & movie productions, in both comedies and dramas, however instead of being an example of what our society should NEVER allow to happen, we are all learning that the criminal element within America has EXPLODED with scumbags and carpetbaggers who float around America being intentionally hired to dismantle & destroy entire communities for the betterment of these same kinds of few entrenched wealthy criminals/families that exist in every corner of the US~! This "Mark Gregson" goon fits the "profile" of a modern day "hit man" (corporate raider) that instead of using a gun to kill folks in our community, uses a pen to destroy what remains of the backbone of the entire medical community here. I would expect that his salary of $50,000.00 a month ($600,000.00 per year) would be enough proof that he is not here to help the OMC and the good folks of Clallam County, but at nearly twice the pay of the President of the US is there anyone who really believes that is legit~? Who exactly were the people who actually hired Mark Gregson~? Who put those who "installed" Mark Gregson into the OMC into THEIR positions of power? What did they personally gain, and how on earth did they come to the absolutely insane assumption that hiring someone temporarily on a "part time" basis, who lives a thousand miles away and who has no ties to our community, was somehow going to be good for the OMC and Clallam County~? What if we are looking at this situation all wrong? Instead of foolishly assuming that Mark Gregson was hired to help get the OMC to correct their long history of operational disasters, because he somehow has "exceptional business abilities that no one in our community has, perhaps we should consider the very likely probability that he was really hired to cover up the long history of operational disasters and to move the hidden agenda of the criminals within our community forward as THEY have planned behind the backs of the good folks in our community? We were scammed by one "Wolfe in sheep's clothing" that was simply replaced by another "wolf" who, as soon as he serves the criminals purpose, will disappear as quickly as he came into our community, leaving an even bigger disaster in his wake without any personal accountability~! We need to investigate exactly "WHO" is behind the running of the OMC and anyone who is behind them pulling the strings~! In my 50+ years of analyzing these exact kinds of problems, I have always found greater national connections to the system of corruption that exists~! Obviously, Mark Gregson didn't just happen upon the position at the OMC, he was VERY intentionally sought after and installed into the OMC~! WHY~??? If we investigated these questions, I am abundantly sure that we would ultimately uncover the infamous "Black Hand" of the dark underbelly of organized crime that poses as "legitimate business" all across the country and even world in many cases~! Folks who look into such things are not "conspiracy theory nuts" for doing their duty to simply discover the truth, they are actually heroes who are strong enough to ignore the REAL "conspiracy theory nuts" who always assume the most ignorant things because their level of intelligence is lacking~! These severely "lacking" individuals are THE problem because they are the first line of defense for the very criminal element that uses them for cover~! Sincerely, Mike
Olympic Medical Center Board of Commissioners Special Meeting
September 30th 12:30-2:00pm
Linkletter Hall, Olympic Memorial Hospital, 939 Caroline Street, Port Angeles, WA 98362
https://www.olympicmedical.org/calendar/events/board-of-commissioners-meeting-1230-pm/?calendardate=20250930123000
Great conversations today, everyone. Thank you for sharing and helping our community.
Diane started a thread about Tylenol and autism. Denise, Mark, and No One expanded on it with vaccinations, genetics, and Amish.
Please find and read it if you haven’t. You will also find my comment there, which I am posting here separately. Apologies. Can’t help myself. Duty?
I wonder if the Amish use the building codes that were forced upon the rest of America like ASHRAE 62-1981. I’ll bet Amish people know how to open a window. Do their homes have window sills close to the ground? Are Amish kids playing and working outside a lot?
I have considered that vaccinations may have been over done just so they received the blame and not a bigger culprit.
But there are so many things not yet explained that also rose dramatically beginning at the same time, which are not explained by Tylenol or vaccines.
It’s time to tie many things together. It ain’t just Tylenol, acetaminophen, even if it is a cause. Is Tylenol a perfectly good product when used in an environment we used to have? Is the metabolism of acetaminophen compromised and does it only become harmful because of something else? What could that something else be?
Partial pressures and the exchange of gases through a membrane, your lung tissue.
Connect SIDS, autism, ADHD, PTSD, COPD, homelessness, gender confusion, and more. Why did they spike up simultaneously with Alzheimer’s? It’s as if a switch were thrown. Can you put a date on it? BTW, it’s deliberate.
Now dementia is called diabetes, Type 3.
Diabetes was never the problem it is now until the late 1970s, early 1980s when ASHRAE 62-1978 began to be used as a guide for ventilation requirements. It reduced acceptable rates to less than half. Three years later, 62-1981 reduced it to 1/7th.
Can you deduce the real reason smoking was attacked? Not for health.
I am listening to one of those ads for an EPI medicine on the radio as I write. Do you suppose the pancreas knows how much CO2 is in your blood and doesn’t want any more? Wake up!
Hearing one of those ads about EPI as I write this. You think maybe the pancreas knows how much CO2 should be in your blood and doesn’t want more? Wake up!
Every breath we exhale contains between 4 and 5% CO2, 40,000 to 50,000 ppm.
If the CO2 is raised 1,000 ppm where you are, only 39,000 to 49,000 can exit your lungs.
That’s a 2 to 2.5 % decrease.
What are the implications for metabolism?
Many homes , schools, etc. have CO2 increases greater than 1,000 ppm.
What did ASHRAE 62-1981 do?
What have obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, and food allergies done since tighter homes with increased exhaled CO2 trapped inside with poor ventilation was forced on us beginning in the 1970s?
Add behavioral, mental, and other physical problems.
It’s 2 to 3 times as strong for children, plus they spend more time on or closer to the floor where CO2 is strongest.
Time to revisit Nuremberg. The globalists and Democrats are now a cult, a criminal cabal creating victims a la “Stalin’s Chicken” style. They found some history most of us have forgotten (Tenement House Acts, Teddy Roosevelt and Samuel Gompers, and Jacob Riis) and have reversed the good to make people sick, crazy, violent, criminal, and dependent on government.
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy
Dependency is power for them.
Start talking “crimes against humanity.” My indictment of the CDC should be all you need for a start. Millions of indoor exhaled CO2 damaged and dead children and adults (not including abortions) while the FBI and “The Law” looked the other way.
Let some people know their “just following orders” will not cut it this time either.
Come down hard on all the public health types for the cover up and damage. On their facilitators and protectors too, especially the media and anyone censoring the facts, the truth.
Don’t forget those who have been lying about the climate and using fear to force higher exhaled CO2 in tighter poorly ventilated buildings, which is a false savings of energy. It causes us to use more as explained in the link.
conspAIRacy.com/evilcdc.html
When in doubt...change the goal lines. We see it all the time, words get redefined, genders get expanded, ideologies become all the rage and your ordinary, everyday colds and injuries become worldwide disasters. It keeps us all on our toes, keeps the cortisol pumping and leads to economic and emotional instability. I wonder if it could be contrived just to keep us off balance and unfocused? Something to think about...when you have time.