Another example of the hypocrisy coming from the LWV and those aligned with them. Once again, they cherry‑pick what they want to highlight and conveniently ignore Commissioner French’s comments about property destruction — because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
And regarding the “Vote for Jake = Vote for Trump” sign: in my opinion, their obsession with the current administration runs so deep that it spills into every local issue and pulses through every vein of their messaging. They push this narrative because they cannot defend anything positive French has done for this county. So they deflect. They drag the President into a county‑level race to distract from their own lack of substance. Consider the source and move on.
We are not vile, angry, or hateful. We don’t engage in the kind of language they accuse others of. We take the higher road and let their behavior speak for itself. Their need to tie the President to our commissioner election shows how weak — and yes, ignorant — that argument is. They refuse to look at statistics, data, or actual outcomes. They immediately pivot to national politics because they have nothing else.
I shake my head, honestly. It’s revealing to see the level of ignorance, hostility, and misplaced anger driving these attacks.
And I would ask the LWV and their followers: why don’t you sit down with Jake and have a real discussion? Their refusal says more than any statement they put out. They won’t do it — because they have nothing.
In my opinion, we should all be doing more discussions with people who hold different views. I’ve tried many times, and I’m dismissed immediately — labeled a “MAGA person” simply because I don’t agree with their ideology. I’ve tried, and I’ve given up. So hats off to Jake for sitting down and discussing opposing views. Will we see French do that, or is he relying on “spokespeople,” the protestors, to carry him?
“Vote for Jake = Vote for Trump”. Not very helpful or relevant, but OK. So, what does a "Vote for Mike = ?" Sounds like just more of the status quo, which is the problem.
"I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with facts." With people and organizations claiming to be "fact-checkers", the down side is that these entities rarely include citations or references, which leads one to question their "facts" as being cloaked-opinions or propaganda. It's easy to jump on a bandwagon; it's free, requiring no thought as to where it actually leads, and who holds the reins. Context matters, there are those betting on the inexperienced and needy to carry their narrative for them; precisely the reason many have canceled their former PDN, et al. subscriptions. There is good reason that very wealthy people own, and control media platforms. One must be vigilant as to what one allows into one's human biological organism, through any portal; poison comes in many forms.
Respectful disagreement. Love it. As this campaign continues, I am more and more convinced that Jake is the man for the job. But I am also more and more dismayed at how many are on the "other side."
I had to look up, chipping out, to try and find the history of its use, and found it in internet chatrooms in the early 2000s through 2013. It is typified by exaggerated anger and irrational actions that some find justified because of the victim/oppressor tensions sown by the education system and various media promoters.
Typically, because people of color have been sold a victim mentality, and those less colorful have been pegged as oppressors: it invites some to display their outrage indoctrination in ways that seem more animalistic than humane.
There are bad behaviors among some of all peoples that hinder better communication between groups born with different pigment percentages.
When patient and thoughtful dialog between all individuals and leaders is sought, and found worth keeping: then better outcomes should more likely occur.
Thank you, both, for this example of doing just that!
I will have to listen more than once to this provocative dialog to digest some of the inferences made. unique experiences from each. I am an alcoholic, now sober, and I have never looked to blame anyone other than myself, for my choices. I was held accountable for my actions, and chose to alter my direction and chose sobriety. Blaming society for my problems, or not getting
enough support, bus rides, paraphernalia, free rooms, etc. is deflecting from personal responsibility. The emphasis seems to be toward keeping the revenue stream flowing to organizations that profit from the continuation of addiction, rather than escape. I have many personal stories related to racism, bullying, and social bias that have shaped my life and philosophy, as have many of you reading this.
This sounded to me like a balanced open minded man speaking to an upset closed minded man. It takes a special type of human to find division in Jake's words and actions. Thank you Jake and Jeff.
I agree with you there. Agreeing to disagree on some things while still being able to find common ground on other topics is definitely a step in the right direction. BTW, thank you putting your time and energy towards the greater good of this county. I always love hearing your public comments. I wish I had the intellect to engage that way myself but unfortunately im limited to knuckle dragging. Keep up the good work!
It's implied enforcing nuisance issues in encampment areas takes away from enforcement of other issues " so taking away from other enforcement of other things such as violent crimes, child abuse, human trafficking, drug trafficking, stuff like that."
All those issues are happening IN encampments just like they are happening on nuisance properties and drug houses where code is not enforced adequately. Being poor is not a crime, but we have to stop letting it be an excuse to ignore or dismiss crime.
Thanks to Jesse and Jake for the conversation, and to Jeff for the platform to share it.
Jesse's questions were so much better than "Did Biden win the 2020 election?" and because of that, the conversation was deep and interesting.
We all need more of this-- honest conversations about our complicated local issues. Because we each have a uniquely important story and are impacted in different ways, we can only find starting points of common ground and better solutions by listening to each other.
Parts of this conversation were kind of raw, and that's so much better than volleying empty talking points. It gave me a lot to think about because it was direct and honest and went beyond "politics". Definitely worth a listen.
Mr. Charles seems to claim deeper knowledge of the community and it's needs, and works in social services but doesn't know what services are available currently in some circumstances.
"How do you access free food if you don't have a car?"
Food bank workers also drive around and deliver food. I was staying in my RV, Walmart parking lot in Sequim for a few days while waiting for repairs and I had a few people stop by thinking I was homeless and offered food and resources. It’s a beautiful 1976 motorhome but I took no offense 🙂
Such common sense, and absolute transparency from Jake! I'm glad he could be so calm and not get triggered! I've never heard of "chimping" either, and I'm on FB every day. I just hope this talk will be understood and respected by those who oppose Jake (which I still don't understand). Keep up the great work, Jake! We are with you!!
The over prescribing of Rx opiates is the history of addiction but not really what we are seeing on the streets now. Perhaps that is part of the disconnect in local social services, that many of the outreach workers got sober before fentanyl and worse synthetic took over the drug scene but are still operating from informationfrom that time period. Fentanyl has been on the scene since at least 2019 and like technology the illegal drug trade has evolved rapidly. The high volume dealer doing business with our former drug court officer busted at the casino can't blame his actions on overprescribing.
International drug trafficking in western WA has been well documented by federal authorities. This is a new generation of addiction we are facing and the old methods (like unlimited free paraphernalia) ain't going to work.
Jake and Jesse, thank you for this open dialogue. Your conversation was civil and honest. The one point about not knowing some slang was concerning to me, as if everyone is supposed to know all the slang lingo. I didn't know any of the slang phrases mentioned, but why does Jesse think less of someone like me for not knowing? How does he he know them and did he ever use them? Sharing information is important to understanding and this podcast showed Jake's strengths and his points of view. Great job everyone!
This is exactly what we need. Thank you, Jesse Charles and Jake, for true courage. More real conversation, please. Our national and local dialogue has been stopped dead in its tracks because people, even at the family level, can't and won't talk with each other. "Talk to the hand."
How many divorces happen this way? To end a national and local divorce, we talk honestly.
When people actually relate, with brotherly love, truth emerges.
Finally finished the podcast and I am glad I am voting for French… but with so many racist, ideological dog whistles, he is the perfect spot on CCWD. (Even though several points of this interview mentioned that Tozzer is the biggest barrier to Seegers relationship with Tribes, even Seegers floated the idea that it may explain Makah not responding further.)
Seegers offers nothing for the most divisive topics of his followers which is racial identity. He was surprised by basic internet terms, but even upon learning them in realtime, he offers no genuine words to Jesse to condemn what his supporters said. He says he was reached out to by the people saying racist things trying to explain themselves. He moves past it. He often expressed that he “doesn’t understand why things are always about race.” Classic MAGA dog whistle.
Or when Jesse asked about naming his ch old as campaign manager. He admitted that he didn’t find value in the PDC’s findings… he wanted Tozzer and he thot of a way to own the libs. Since there is no age requirement, the ‘common sense’ candidate appointments his elementary aged child. He is sarcastic and smug at best, and knowingly telling everyone in Clallam County “I will always get my way” at worse.
And Seegers always needs to bring up the way he believes Clallam County residents could find ways to profit off their investments with additional dwellings or vacation rentals. talking about “Most families primary and largest asset is their property,” SIR these are not investments this is their home!! If you think our county is going to see economic expansion by letting us sublet our properties, you are outing yourself as a real estate asset collector or investor. Your frame of mind reveals how out of touch you are with struggling families.
And most confusing for me was this interview where he finally owns that his addiction and homelessness policies won’t be enough, but they will move fractions of the population in a certain direction. That sounds reasonable, unless you have heard him disparage health officials and commissioners all summer long for making too small an impact. He has a lot of grace for his own future shortcomings, but is any of that grace extended to the people currently doing the job? Nope!
Oh well.. good on Jesse for sitting down with him and allowing a cross-platform opportunity. I can see why Tozzer and Seegers need to frame this as “two people who are allowed to disagree” because that’s what THEY think happened here. In reality, people will see a candidate that side steps accountability, ignores racialized hate speech, thinks Clallam County’s most underused resource is vacation rentals, and relies on people wanting a local candidate who is “just learning as he goes” while our Federal government slips into fascism.
It’s all about racism to you? I’ve never heard the expression “chimping around” and I’ve been raising kids for 45 years! Yeah I get out in the world too. When you look at life through only seeing people as unequal and victims, you are bound to be confused. Perception is what determines your behavior. And yes, people invest in their homes?!! do you not understand the definition of invest? Maybe you need a reality check.
Cindy, I have to agree. I was just as puzzled by "chimping around" and why it became an issue. Slang pops up all the time. Slang is not common language easily understood unless you are around a particular group who uses it.
SLANG Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
The meaning of SLANG is language peculiar to a particular group.
Try going to Louisiana and understanding Louisiana Creole.
And I don’t mean to say this falls on YOU (Cindy and Jennifer) exclusively when I say you. It would have been more accurate to say, Seegers, Cindy, and Jennifer. He was the first one to use that excuse, HE is the political candidate by choice, and so he should carry its primary saddling. 👍🏼
Cindy and Jennifer, very interesting that you decide to center yourselves as if anything you know or don’t know thereby excuses other Seegers supporters who DO?
You not knowing the word is not the primary concern I raised. You’ll notice I also pointed at how Jake seemed shrug his shoulders about his supporters who DID know it would cause that type of harm on Facebook or memes. Jesse was asking Seegers to condemn racist hate speech as a blanket commitment, and might I add not an unreasonable one. Seegers even mentions in the interview that someone named Tabitha reached out to him after his apology, asking if it was about the chimp comments. DID he hold her accountable as a mouth piece for his campaign through social media and she reached out? After Jesse explained the impact other people see, did Jake take a hard stance against racist speech and condemn its use as a slur? No, he didn’t. That’s the point we are making.
You (Cindy and Jennifer) rob yourselves of building a bridge with people when you throw up your arms and say “that’s a word I never heard of!” Well okay.. it sounds like this Tabitha woman knew what it meant and I know I personally saw it on “Port Townsend News.” THEY knew and Jesse pointed this out. You are giving the harmful racist people a pass by making this about you and what you do/not know. Does that make sense?
Otherwise you are basically arguing that your neighbors need you (Cindy and Jennifer) to be the arbiters of what is/not a slur in order for their concerns to be heard or respected. See how hard it is to build a community with that kind of power you hold over others? If your neighbor says it’s hurtful why are you trying so hard to excuse it just because you didn’t see that way at first.
Mouth piece for his campaign? No, she’s not, not anymore than Redmond is for French! There’s inappropriate things being said by supporters of both candidates. Jesse‘s response to Jake not knowing what those words meant was not OK that was my point in saying I didn’t know what it meant either. Jesse was very critical of Jake not knowing, basically calling him a liar, therefore of others that didn’t know or assume the meaning of chimping out. Is monkeying around the same as chimping out?? I would have to do some research before I could decide if Tabitha knew what it appeared she didn’t. Or maybe there could be more than one use of that expression depending upon the way it’s being used.
But see Cindy, before I get back to the main point, you are proving another one of my points lol You keep putting yourself as the one who needs to hear ‘all sides.’ Cindy, no offense, but Jake is the one running—not you… so it doesn’t really matter if you agree with the interactions Jesse brought up or not. Jake is the one who needs to have a stronger, more expansive ethical code of conduct with the public. YOU can keep ignoring racism all you want 🤷🏻♀️
Anyways, it is frustrating that Jake (or you or so many other in these comments) wants to ‘do more research’ into specific internet interactions before he will ever say “I have seen racist posts from people in Clallam County before, and I condemn that.”
Another example of the hypocrisy coming from the LWV and those aligned with them. Once again, they cherry‑pick what they want to highlight and conveniently ignore Commissioner French’s comments about property destruction — because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
And regarding the “Vote for Jake = Vote for Trump” sign: in my opinion, their obsession with the current administration runs so deep that it spills into every local issue and pulses through every vein of their messaging. They push this narrative because they cannot defend anything positive French has done for this county. So they deflect. They drag the President into a county‑level race to distract from their own lack of substance. Consider the source and move on.
We are not vile, angry, or hateful. We don’t engage in the kind of language they accuse others of. We take the higher road and let their behavior speak for itself. Their need to tie the President to our commissioner election shows how weak — and yes, ignorant — that argument is. They refuse to look at statistics, data, or actual outcomes. They immediately pivot to national politics because they have nothing else.
I shake my head, honestly. It’s revealing to see the level of ignorance, hostility, and misplaced anger driving these attacks.
And I would ask the LWV and their followers: why don’t you sit down with Jake and have a real discussion? Their refusal says more than any statement they put out. They won’t do it — because they have nothing.
In my opinion, we should all be doing more discussions with people who hold different views. I’ve tried many times, and I’m dismissed immediately — labeled a “MAGA person” simply because I don’t agree with their ideology. I’ve tried, and I’ve given up. So hats off to Jake for sitting down and discussing opposing views. Will we see French do that, or is he relying on “spokespeople,” the protestors, to carry him?
“Vote for Jake = Vote for Trump”. Not very helpful or relevant, but OK. So, what does a "Vote for Mike = ?" Sounds like just more of the status quo, which is the problem.
"I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with facts." With people and organizations claiming to be "fact-checkers", the down side is that these entities rarely include citations or references, which leads one to question their "facts" as being cloaked-opinions or propaganda. It's easy to jump on a bandwagon; it's free, requiring no thought as to where it actually leads, and who holds the reins. Context matters, there are those betting on the inexperienced and needy to carry their narrative for them; precisely the reason many have canceled their former PDN, et al. subscriptions. There is good reason that very wealthy people own, and control media platforms. One must be vigilant as to what one allows into one's human biological organism, through any portal; poison comes in many forms.
Like "harm reduction" which does not even track or use what would be it's #1 thing to get folks on board. Recovery.
Respectful disagreement. Love it. As this campaign continues, I am more and more convinced that Jake is the man for the job. But I am also more and more dismayed at how many are on the "other side."
Communism: the hate runs deep.
I had to look up, chipping out, to try and find the history of its use, and found it in internet chatrooms in the early 2000s through 2013. It is typified by exaggerated anger and irrational actions that some find justified because of the victim/oppressor tensions sown by the education system and various media promoters.
Typically, because people of color have been sold a victim mentality, and those less colorful have been pegged as oppressors: it invites some to display their outrage indoctrination in ways that seem more animalistic than humane.
There are bad behaviors among some of all peoples that hinder better communication between groups born with different pigment percentages.
When patient and thoughtful dialog between all individuals and leaders is sought, and found worth keeping: then better outcomes should more likely occur.
Thank you, both, for this example of doing just that!
Vote the wedge and common sense VOTE JAKE.
I will have to listen more than once to this provocative dialog to digest some of the inferences made. unique experiences from each. I am an alcoholic, now sober, and I have never looked to blame anyone other than myself, for my choices. I was held accountable for my actions, and chose to alter my direction and chose sobriety. Blaming society for my problems, or not getting
enough support, bus rides, paraphernalia, free rooms, etc. is deflecting from personal responsibility. The emphasis seems to be toward keeping the revenue stream flowing to organizations that profit from the continuation of addiction, rather than escape. I have many personal stories related to racism, bullying, and social bias that have shaped my life and philosophy, as have many of you reading this.
That's why God blessed us at the top of the food chain and with free will to do right and righteous things.
This sounded to me like a balanced open minded man speaking to an upset closed minded man. It takes a special type of human to find division in Jake's words and actions. Thank you Jake and Jeff.
💯💯💯
Despite Jesse's own prejudices, I give him credit for continuing the dialogue.
I agree with you there. Agreeing to disagree on some things while still being able to find common ground on other topics is definitely a step in the right direction. BTW, thank you putting your time and energy towards the greater good of this county. I always love hearing your public comments. I wish I had the intellect to engage that way myself but unfortunately im limited to knuckle dragging. Keep up the good work!
Jake and Jeff, my heroes.
It's implied enforcing nuisance issues in encampment areas takes away from enforcement of other issues " so taking away from other enforcement of other things such as violent crimes, child abuse, human trafficking, drug trafficking, stuff like that."
All those issues are happening IN encampments just like they are happening on nuisance properties and drug houses where code is not enforced adequately. Being poor is not a crime, but we have to stop letting it be an excuse to ignore or dismiss crime.
Exactly. I wish Jake had pointed that out, but I couldn’t have handled this discussion with the grace that he did.
100%
and higher taxation.
Thanks to Jesse and Jake for the conversation, and to Jeff for the platform to share it.
Jesse's questions were so much better than "Did Biden win the 2020 election?" and because of that, the conversation was deep and interesting.
We all need more of this-- honest conversations about our complicated local issues. Because we each have a uniquely important story and are impacted in different ways, we can only find starting points of common ground and better solutions by listening to each other.
Parts of this conversation were kind of raw, and that's so much better than volleying empty talking points. It gave me a lot to think about because it was direct and honest and went beyond "politics". Definitely worth a listen.
This sounds the like the workings and actions or presentations of LWV should be taking or presenting.
I believe we should all associate ourselves with being of one tribe.
Mr. Charles seems to claim deeper knowledge of the community and it's needs, and works in social services but doesn't know what services are available currently in some circumstances.
"How do you access free food if you don't have a car?"
mostly free transit https://www.clallamtransit.com/fares
mobile market locations throughout county in targeted areas https://www.pamarket.org/mobile-market
free pantries county wide and SNAP program at farmer markets https://extension.wsu.edu/clallam/food-and-nutrition/food-sense/
Clallam free food resource list https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CTS2rsWMHnB6t_BqbF4XxtaxB5wgbGckvRDRs2bCA2k/edit?tab=t.0
Jefferson County Free food resource list https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FW_hbWVmUHij_wUZBMQQJDWI4A8WX91jhWcWHzBxfbI/edit?tab=t.0
Food bank workers also drive around and deliver food. I was staying in my RV, Walmart parking lot in Sequim for a few days while waiting for repairs and I had a few people stop by thinking I was homeless and offered food and resources. It’s a beautiful 1976 motorhome but I took no offense 🙂
Perception colors assertions and claims.
Thank you for the resource list, Susie! I’ll be sharing it in an article.
Such common sense, and absolute transparency from Jake! I'm glad he could be so calm and not get triggered! I've never heard of "chimping" either, and I'm on FB every day. I just hope this talk will be understood and respected by those who oppose Jake (which I still don't understand). Keep up the great work, Jake! We are with you!!
The over prescribing of Rx opiates is the history of addiction but not really what we are seeing on the streets now. Perhaps that is part of the disconnect in local social services, that many of the outreach workers got sober before fentanyl and worse synthetic took over the drug scene but are still operating from informationfrom that time period. Fentanyl has been on the scene since at least 2019 and like technology the illegal drug trade has evolved rapidly. The high volume dealer doing business with our former drug court officer busted at the casino can't blame his actions on overprescribing.
International drug trafficking in western WA has been well documented by federal authorities. This is a new generation of addiction we are facing and the old methods (like unlimited free paraphernalia) ain't going to work.
Jake Seegers sits down with Jesse Charles ----- Damn he did it. I actually am impressed. Now get my a cup of coffee and time to listen!
Jake and Jesse, thank you for this open dialogue. Your conversation was civil and honest. The one point about not knowing some slang was concerning to me, as if everyone is supposed to know all the slang lingo. I didn't know any of the slang phrases mentioned, but why does Jesse think less of someone like me for not knowing? How does he he know them and did he ever use them? Sharing information is important to understanding and this podcast showed Jake's strengths and his points of view. Great job everyone!
This is exactly what we need. Thank you, Jesse Charles and Jake, for true courage. More real conversation, please. Our national and local dialogue has been stopped dead in its tracks because people, even at the family level, can't and won't talk with each other. "Talk to the hand."
How many divorces happen this way? To end a national and local divorce, we talk honestly.
When people actually relate, with brotherly love, truth emerges.
More of this.
Mostly did the transcript via Google:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HFdJf2qQ67-XV8llC3msHBoutoy-oelLi5hVvEURzU0/edit?usp=sharing
Finally finished the podcast and I am glad I am voting for French… but with so many racist, ideological dog whistles, he is the perfect spot on CCWD. (Even though several points of this interview mentioned that Tozzer is the biggest barrier to Seegers relationship with Tribes, even Seegers floated the idea that it may explain Makah not responding further.)
Seegers offers nothing for the most divisive topics of his followers which is racial identity. He was surprised by basic internet terms, but even upon learning them in realtime, he offers no genuine words to Jesse to condemn what his supporters said. He says he was reached out to by the people saying racist things trying to explain themselves. He moves past it. He often expressed that he “doesn’t understand why things are always about race.” Classic MAGA dog whistle.
Or when Jesse asked about naming his ch old as campaign manager. He admitted that he didn’t find value in the PDC’s findings… he wanted Tozzer and he thot of a way to own the libs. Since there is no age requirement, the ‘common sense’ candidate appointments his elementary aged child. He is sarcastic and smug at best, and knowingly telling everyone in Clallam County “I will always get my way” at worse.
And Seegers always needs to bring up the way he believes Clallam County residents could find ways to profit off their investments with additional dwellings or vacation rentals. talking about “Most families primary and largest asset is their property,” SIR these are not investments this is their home!! If you think our county is going to see economic expansion by letting us sublet our properties, you are outing yourself as a real estate asset collector or investor. Your frame of mind reveals how out of touch you are with struggling families.
And most confusing for me was this interview where he finally owns that his addiction and homelessness policies won’t be enough, but they will move fractions of the population in a certain direction. That sounds reasonable, unless you have heard him disparage health officials and commissioners all summer long for making too small an impact. He has a lot of grace for his own future shortcomings, but is any of that grace extended to the people currently doing the job? Nope!
Oh well.. good on Jesse for sitting down with him and allowing a cross-platform opportunity. I can see why Tozzer and Seegers need to frame this as “two people who are allowed to disagree” because that’s what THEY think happened here. In reality, people will see a candidate that side steps accountability, ignores racialized hate speech, thinks Clallam County’s most underused resource is vacation rentals, and relies on people wanting a local candidate who is “just learning as he goes” while our Federal government slips into fascism.
It’s all about racism to you? I’ve never heard the expression “chimping around” and I’ve been raising kids for 45 years! Yeah I get out in the world too. When you look at life through only seeing people as unequal and victims, you are bound to be confused. Perception is what determines your behavior. And yes, people invest in their homes?!! do you not understand the definition of invest? Maybe you need a reality check.
Cindy, I have to agree. I was just as puzzled by "chimping around" and why it became an issue. Slang pops up all the time. Slang is not common language easily understood unless you are around a particular group who uses it.
SLANG Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
The meaning of SLANG is language peculiar to a particular group.
Try going to Louisiana and understanding Louisiana Creole.
That's my question: How does Jesse know all of these slang terms? Does he use them?
And I don’t mean to say this falls on YOU (Cindy and Jennifer) exclusively when I say you. It would have been more accurate to say, Seegers, Cindy, and Jennifer. He was the first one to use that excuse, HE is the political candidate by choice, and so he should carry its primary saddling. 👍🏼
Cindy and Jennifer, very interesting that you decide to center yourselves as if anything you know or don’t know thereby excuses other Seegers supporters who DO?
You not knowing the word is not the primary concern I raised. You’ll notice I also pointed at how Jake seemed shrug his shoulders about his supporters who DID know it would cause that type of harm on Facebook or memes. Jesse was asking Seegers to condemn racist hate speech as a blanket commitment, and might I add not an unreasonable one. Seegers even mentions in the interview that someone named Tabitha reached out to him after his apology, asking if it was about the chimp comments. DID he hold her accountable as a mouth piece for his campaign through social media and she reached out? After Jesse explained the impact other people see, did Jake take a hard stance against racist speech and condemn its use as a slur? No, he didn’t. That’s the point we are making.
You (Cindy and Jennifer) rob yourselves of building a bridge with people when you throw up your arms and say “that’s a word I never heard of!” Well okay.. it sounds like this Tabitha woman knew what it meant and I know I personally saw it on “Port Townsend News.” THEY knew and Jesse pointed this out. You are giving the harmful racist people a pass by making this about you and what you do/not know. Does that make sense?
Otherwise you are basically arguing that your neighbors need you (Cindy and Jennifer) to be the arbiters of what is/not a slur in order for their concerns to be heard or respected. See how hard it is to build a community with that kind of power you hold over others? If your neighbor says it’s hurtful why are you trying so hard to excuse it just because you didn’t see that way at first.
Mouth piece for his campaign? No, she’s not, not anymore than Redmond is for French! There’s inappropriate things being said by supporters of both candidates. Jesse‘s response to Jake not knowing what those words meant was not OK that was my point in saying I didn’t know what it meant either. Jesse was very critical of Jake not knowing, basically calling him a liar, therefore of others that didn’t know or assume the meaning of chimping out. Is monkeying around the same as chimping out?? I would have to do some research before I could decide if Tabitha knew what it appeared she didn’t. Or maybe there could be more than one use of that expression depending upon the way it’s being used.
But see Cindy, before I get back to the main point, you are proving another one of my points lol You keep putting yourself as the one who needs to hear ‘all sides.’ Cindy, no offense, but Jake is the one running—not you… so it doesn’t really matter if you agree with the interactions Jesse brought up or not. Jake is the one who needs to have a stronger, more expansive ethical code of conduct with the public. YOU can keep ignoring racism all you want 🤷🏻♀️
Anyways, it is frustrating that Jake (or you or so many other in these comments) wants to ‘do more research’ into specific internet interactions before he will ever say “I have seen racist posts from people in Clallam County before, and I condemn that.”