The food bank confuses me. The line of cars stretches quite a ways around the corner and most if not all are sitting in cars and trucks newer and nicer than mine. I get it, things are expensive, but I feel like there is an epidemic of misplaced priorities among Americans.
This confuses me as well. Another side of it is the free school breakfast and lunch programs in PA. The Food bank says 60% of the kids rely on this program! 60%.. Instead of, "Future Farmers of America", it's "Future Food Bankers of America" I guess.
The pressures of higher taxes, less services is at a tipping point as everyone has pointed out. When I see people wanting to move here, I wonder if they have done any research at all.
I can guarantee that not all those adults that take food at the foodbank and not all those kids that get free food from the school actually NEED it. But there is a prevailing attitude around here that if something is free people will do whatever it takes to get it. They don't care how it looks, they don't care how it affects others, and they sure don't care where the money comes from as long as they get their free stuff.
What confuses me is why this has become normalized and even glorified in some circles. And why we as taxpayers allow it, but like they say:
Taxes are a penalty for success, welfare is a reward for failure.
Free school lunch programs are heavily promoted nation wide. Many other grants for schools are tied in part to qualification for the federal free lunch program. As a school board member for a state funded charter school in (uber conservative, not handout friendly)Texas I was heavily encouraged to get as many students as possible signed up for free lunch because many other grants looked for that qualification. One important example would be the 21st Century Community Learning Center programs.
Anectdotally on the local level, upper middle class and above parents seem very conscientous regarding school lunch, meaning they rarely let their child get school lunch BECAUSE it is free for all and they feel wrong about using a free source they don't NEED. But try explaining that to a 5 yr old who just wants to eat the same lunch as their pals
You're welcome, Steve. Your expenses were "very low" because mine (and many others) weren't. I understand your point; likely, you've "paid your dues" during the interim.
The Shopping Cart Standard: Why CC Watchdog’s #1 Mission Actually Matters
Clallam County has a lot on its plate. But sometimes the smallest, silliest-sounding ideas are the ones that reset our civic culture. Case in point: returning your shopping cart.
“Social transformation starts with your cart… behavior is contagious.” — Karen McNenny, TEDxBozeman (2015)
No, this isn’t about policing parking lots. It’s about leaders (and all of us) modeling the kind of everyday, pro-social behavior that makes communities work. And there’s real research behind it.
Why this tiny habit punches above its weight
Visible norms spread. When people see others doing the considerate thing, they’re more likely to follow suit.
Low-friction wins compound. Micro-actions (like taking 30 seconds to corral a cart) build a culture where the “right thing” feels easy—and expected.
Leadership by example. If we want transparent, respectful government, it helps when our public figures demonstrate courtesy in the small things, too.
The receipts (plain-English, no jargon)
TEDx talk (3–10 min digestible): Karen McNenny connects cart-return behavior to social engagement and the idea that “how we do some things is how we do all things.” (“How shopping carts will transform society,” TEDxBozeman, 2015.)
Field experiments (peer-reviewed): Researchers found that signs of disorder increase rule-breaking—and, conversely, visible norm-keeping reduces it. Translation: tidy, considerate behavior is contagious. (Keizer, Lindenberg & Steg, Science, 2008.)
Norms 101 (classic psychology): Making a norm visible and salient boosts compliance—people copy what’s modeled. (Cialdini, Reno & Kallgren, JPSP, 1990/1991.)
Professional ethics lens: In low-stakes settings, “doing the right thing when no one is watching” builds the habits that sustain trust in high-stakes ones. (Alfandre, 2021.)
Local tie-in (my graduate work): My 2019 MBA capstone on pro-health behavior shows that modeled norms + low friction improve voluntary uptake. Cart return is the perfect civic analogue.
What this means for Clallam County
If we want better meetings, budgets, and services, start by modeling the culture that makes those big things possible. That’s why I’m backing CC Watchdog’s #1 mission with a serious (but light-touch) policy idea:
CART — Civic Accountability & Role-Modeling Test (Advisory)
A one-sentence addition to our county’s ethics framework that says: elected officials should model everyday, pro-social conduct—illustratively, returning a grocery cart to its corral—as a visible standard of stewardship and courtesy. No punishments, just expectations and examples.
Call to action
Leaders: Be the first to roll a cart back. It’s 30 seconds that says everything.
Residents: Join the “Cart Crew.” Snap a quick pic (faces optional), tag #ClallamReturnsCarts, and normalize the norm.
Policy folks: Let’s adopt CART as an advisory clause—keep it symbolic, keep it classy, and let it set the tone for the work that actually moves the needle.
Small returns → big returns… in public trust. Let’s start where we are, with what we can all do today.
(I would like to give credit to AI-ChatGPT for assisting me in this dialogue and write-up)
The male in the Red Lion to Swain's incident is also a local transient sex offender who is often failure to regester, on the scanner or in jail. He has been living the PA street life for years. Why is there no accountability for him to become responsible for his own life?
The picture of the smoke from the fire under one of our two 8th Street Parakeet cages is symbolic of what plagues us, inability to right the ship while making us pay through the nose for feel good non solutions.
We have too many whose income streams depend on more and more sick, crazy, and criminal people. They created the problem, manage the problem, and grow the problem deliberately, intentionally.
Great job, Jeff! With so many concerning stories, it's hard to believe our little community can stop and right the spiraling chaos. But we can, and it's thanks to you, your readers and listeners, and those who stand up, speak up, and take action. The most important stance we can take is to question everything and to not take fulgent responses from our leaders at face value. If it's a feel good response, RED ALERT!
Man you nailed it Jeff. Just now eye opener walking past the food bank
Line to get to the farmers market to pay for my pastrie most of the cars were nicer than mine but I really noticed the black Mercedes SL and the almost new Range Rover.
Free burn permits.French has again shown how stupid he believes we are.Nothing is free.Someone has to create a permit system.Someone has to issue the permit, someone has to monitor the system.Soon someone realize this costs money.No problem, we will put small fee on it, I am sure that will never increase.
French lies. Of course a "permit" will mean a "citation" (with a fine), which then will result in an eventual permit fee, and more fines. This is putting us lobsters into the cool salted water, while the stove is turned onto high.
A David Dewalt ( Maurice's incident) has been in Clallam jail twice recently, just released on 8/15.
Last Friday eve (8/15) on my way to exercise class in downtown PA after a full work work, transit security was speaking to a man rolling around on the ground at the transit center covered area. As I walked by keeping an eye on the scene the transit guard asked me how I was doing, I responded . I continued walking quickly and as I went down the stairs by the transit elevator heard male voices yelling behind me. Turned around at bottom of stairs and realized the male had jumped up and ran after me and the security guard was getting ahead of him to keep him from pursuing me. ran into the building and yelled for help as I pulled the door shut and guard had to work to get the male to leave.
Jump forward today searching for crimimal history of the David Dewalt in your story and I find this article, the photo is the same guy who tried to chase me! His hair is much more gray now but I am sure it's him. He has a looong history of crime and in this Redding, CA article police had arrested him 17 times that year. He is scary! I changed jackets, left through other side of the building and detoured by several blocks after class to avoid another encounter. these are the type of folks harm reduction and enabling draw to PA! check out his picture, imagine him with more gray hair, and stay far away from this volatile person. retail workers should not have to deal with him. https://krcrtv.com/archive/police-transient-arrested-17-times-since-last-year
Thank you, Susan, for sharing a very troubling experience. I am glad you are safe physically, but you are probably emotional injured. Take care and be safe.
Love it when Hunting Season opens on your site and we get to pick the target to hunt down. I'll pick OMC, but wait! the "dirty rats" have left the sinking ship and no one thinks to at least claw back their bonuses?! My understanding is that if a hospital has in its payor mix 30% or less from Medicaid patients, it qualifies for continuing its pharmaceutical benefit which OMC has lost - probably forever. So what another levy next year Ann Henninger to plug this budgetary hole??? BTW - Looked at some of the credentials of Mark Gregson and he doesn't appear to be a "closer". Time will tell and the clock is ticking. But wait The "OMC ship" is carrying us county residents as we sink into a sea of indebtedness and levy increases.
If there was a board to post stickers on at the Watchdog booth, where participants could have voted to say where they found the best county-wide news coverage: we already know this dog can hunt!
It appears clallam county has so much tax $$$ to play with the three board commissioners are willing to waste mass $$$ on dead beat drug addicts instead of fixing roadways & alleys that have been neglected for many years,waste $$$ on special interest groups,waste $$$ on tribal issues,ect ect ect then claim county needs more $$$ to operate effectively.
The offending booth workers' hat message may not reflect of the opinions of all of their party's participants, but their lack of disavowing them says something of their probable agreement, sadly!
People wear hats like that because they can't get a rise any other way (except maybe a blue pill? And, yes, that is a reference to The Matrix). For non movie buffs... the blue pill represents choosing blissful ignorance, while the red pill is embracing the painful truth. (Its a documentary.... )
"the (Equivalent) of (About) 30%"...wtf?...can 'Nozias' get any more weasely?
Probably!
Good luck with the burn permits, 'French-fried'! Good luck enforcing 30,000 incident calls of NON-COMPLIANCE! I personally would like more burn science and common sense applied to burning, such as neighborly awareness of smoke-drift and proper clearance zone around burn material, and people not burning asphalt shingles and plastic and other 'garbage', and tarping and drying brush piles before burning, and having pressured-water nearby when burning, and not picking the most beautiful days to burn...but 'whatcha gonna do? Permits can't replace courtesy and common sense...REAL TIRED of these slimy little commie-crats pushing all their 'progressive' NWO crap on us!
So glad you highlighted the Stephen Pinker book! I knew we weren't just 'makin' it up!
These timber 'blockades' in the name of environmentalism is a doomsday movement, 'structurally complex forest', my 'arse'! Another commie-pinko-freak infiltrated into gov't to carry out NWO agendas. 'Structurally complex commies' is more like it!
With the mass of people blindly voting 'party' and no real alternative candidates but 'party' candidates, I don't see any real change. The outlaw gov't is bending and breaking all sorts of laws, with impunity...until they are not.
Good luck CC. Good luck WA...you're going to need a lot of it!😎
My response to burn permit non-compliance, Robert. The Commissioners will create another Compliance Officer position, the same as they have done with OSS compliance, and now levy a $13 charge on compliant OSS owners, so that they can bring the non-compliant into compliance.
Dave Upthegrove's goals are to increase timber harvest through longer cutting cycles. Continuingly shorter cutting cycles beginning in the 1960's and most recently being pushed by hedge funds seeking short term profits, have decreased the amount of wood, and jobs, that Clallam County would otherwise be capable of producing. In addition, these shorter cutting cycles have a large negative effect on late summer stream flows, which the county is attempting to mitigate through fees called for by the Dungeness Water Rule, for which the forest industry pays none. Look a little deeper into the misinformation being spread by the forest industry and you will see how the east end of Clallam County, in particular, will benefit from Dave Upthegrove's policies (if he sticks to his campaign promises).
I don’t know the man, but I think I recognize the M.O.. Nebulous jargon promising something better and having a bogeyman. Oh, and environmental “concerns” for good measure.
Is there any discussion allowed among "the players" meaning Dave, the forest industry, and the Clallam County taxpayer? Seems very one sided, and the I-5 voters once again, vote on what is best for the whole state!
So sell your asses and 'pony up' to offset the delays which cost tens of millions in revenue...Utopia literally means 'no-where'! That's where we'll be living when these psychos have their way!😱
Large logs bring less money. I’m not quite sure exactly what the maximum optimum diameter is. I believe it’s @ 30”. I was harvesting timber off my property to gain usable acreage . Minimum was 16” diameter and I believe maximum was 30”. The “Timber Cruiser” I was talking to told me that the big stuff had to go to smaller more specialized mills that paid less per board foot. That the most profitable were sized for export. Now this may be b.s. but it’s how it was explained to me. I sold $60k worth of logs. This was in the early 2000’s.
The large logs only bring less money per board foot because most mills have been redone to handle smaller logs, the product of shorter cutting cycles. The larger logs certainly produce much higher quality lumber that should be intrinsically more valuable.
Mr. Richards, I must apologize for the rude comments, some people just can't help themselves.
A question if you don't mind? Is it not true that these forests in question are GMO and engineered to grow taller, straighter, and faster to enable a shorter harvest schedule??? My own DFL has Native and GMO Douglas Fir and the size difference is impressive!!!
I've gotten used to rude comments over the years. But I've also found that if one keeps plugging away trying to argue facts eventually some people listen, and eventually I even change my mind sometimes. We would all do better without wise ass comments.
The forest industry has certainly been attempting to develop faster growing trees but I think they have made little progress there. Planting trees in much thicker than sustainable stands causes faster early growth as the trees seek to out compete each other, but then most of the trees are wasted in pre-commercial thinning, as is the water that was used to grow those trees. What is notable here is that the harvests Upthegrove has delayed, and which the timber industry is clamoring to get its hands on, are 100 to 120 year old trees - certainly these are not the product of GMO. And it is these trees that grow more, better timber faster.
It's natural humanity at it's finest when things are offered for free with no questions asked! Morals often go out the window. I've seen the lineup of cars for the Sequim food bank and was shocked at the first time I saw it! My daily driver is an 06' with 230k miles on it. Many of the cars in that lineup were 2015's or newer. Now I know that we sometimes fall on hard times and it's nice to get a "handup" but some just keep going for freebies even though they are not in need.
Addressing the special groups issue....well as stated....all people should be treated equally. This special treatment needs to be toned way down and consequences need to come back. Most people understand consequences and will change their behavior habits accordingly. Some don't and those are the ones that need to be targeted with the special programs to help them. The rest will straighten their lives out after finding out that they have to be responsible for themselves.
Fairness and transparency are of the upmost importance in our county leadership whether it be a county seat, OMC leader or board member, or a facility that takes taxpayer's money. The biggest, best, or most liked (want lists) are not what gets the job done.
It's time for a change in Clallam County, time for new common sense leadership!
Yes, but HOW to reach the voters -- the newspaper is junk, yard signs are blight -- so, what will work? (asking for a friend in the current PA election).
not sure what works best, but if you want to try the Saturday stand at Lincoln and 1st/Front technique the incumbents use, I am happy to help you hold up a sign. Just please don't ignore no tresspassing no soliciting signs and leave trash on people's door steps while claiming to be the pro enviroment candidate, that's annoying
less than the amount idiling in line for HOURS every weekend all summer at the Heart of the Hills entrance station to Hurricane Ridge or in the very long line in the precious Hoh rainforest
Don't get me started... tens of thousands of interactions/exchanges, witnessing stupid people tricks within ONP, via both staff and visitors, exceeding a quarter century. Local issues are at the discretion of ONP "leadership", because the DC and Denver wigs at Regional/National Hindquarters cannot be bothered with the mundane environmental aspects that are the platform on their soapbox and source of NGO grant funding. Biosphere, and UNESCO World Heritage Site are key terms as to who are actually calling the shots. Stand in the road behind traffic at any Entrance Station with a CO monitor, the alarm will sound endlessly, as the EVs peter-out in line.
The food bank confuses me. The line of cars stretches quite a ways around the corner and most if not all are sitting in cars and trucks newer and nicer than mine. I get it, things are expensive, but I feel like there is an epidemic of misplaced priorities among Americans.
If the Costco gas station was to offer free gas how many residents would Ozias claim are fuel challenged?
The metrics the food banks use as demonstrative of the problem they claim exists because of their own doing is a scam.
Get in back of the equity line. You're a white male EV driver.
EB drivers are already getting a bad deal with the penalty fee on tags, for having an EV or Hybrid
This confuses me as well. Another side of it is the free school breakfast and lunch programs in PA. The Food bank says 60% of the kids rely on this program! 60%.. Instead of, "Future Farmers of America", it's "Future Food Bankers of America" I guess.
https://www.portangelesfoodbank.org/students
The pressures of higher taxes, less services is at a tipping point as everyone has pointed out. When I see people wanting to move here, I wonder if they have done any research at all.
I can guarantee that not all those adults that take food at the foodbank and not all those kids that get free food from the school actually NEED it. But there is a prevailing attitude around here that if something is free people will do whatever it takes to get it. They don't care how it looks, they don't care how it affects others, and they sure don't care where the money comes from as long as they get their free stuff.
What confuses me is why this has become normalized and even glorified in some circles. And why we as taxpayers allow it, but like they say:
Taxes are a penalty for success, welfare is a reward for failure.
Agree!
Free school lunch programs are heavily promoted nation wide. Many other grants for schools are tied in part to qualification for the federal free lunch program. As a school board member for a state funded charter school in (uber conservative, not handout friendly)Texas I was heavily encouraged to get as many students as possible signed up for free lunch because many other grants looked for that qualification. One important example would be the 21st Century Community Learning Center programs.
Anectdotally on the local level, upper middle class and above parents seem very conscientous regarding school lunch, meaning they rarely let their child get school lunch BECAUSE it is free for all and they feel wrong about using a free source they don't NEED. But try explaining that to a 5 yr old who just wants to eat the same lunch as their pals
🙀You are correct!🤓
Once again TJ I agree.
Most people used to take pride in being independent and providing for themselves and their family. Apparently that has sunk with the OMC ship.
I agree with your sentiment TJ. Though if I were a content creator, I would rent a Ferrari and film myself waiting in line while honking.
When I was younger, I adored independence. I lived in a boarding house next to a soup kitchen so my expenses were very low.
You're welcome, Steve. Your expenses were "very low" because mine (and many others) weren't. I understand your point; likely, you've "paid your dues" during the interim.
The Shopping Cart Standard: Why CC Watchdog’s #1 Mission Actually Matters
Clallam County has a lot on its plate. But sometimes the smallest, silliest-sounding ideas are the ones that reset our civic culture. Case in point: returning your shopping cart.
“Social transformation starts with your cart… behavior is contagious.” — Karen McNenny, TEDxBozeman (2015)
No, this isn’t about policing parking lots. It’s about leaders (and all of us) modeling the kind of everyday, pro-social behavior that makes communities work. And there’s real research behind it.
Why this tiny habit punches above its weight
Visible norms spread. When people see others doing the considerate thing, they’re more likely to follow suit.
Low-friction wins compound. Micro-actions (like taking 30 seconds to corral a cart) build a culture where the “right thing” feels easy—and expected.
Leadership by example. If we want transparent, respectful government, it helps when our public figures demonstrate courtesy in the small things, too.
The receipts (plain-English, no jargon)
TEDx talk (3–10 min digestible): Karen McNenny connects cart-return behavior to social engagement and the idea that “how we do some things is how we do all things.” (“How shopping carts will transform society,” TEDxBozeman, 2015.)
Field experiments (peer-reviewed): Researchers found that signs of disorder increase rule-breaking—and, conversely, visible norm-keeping reduces it. Translation: tidy, considerate behavior is contagious. (Keizer, Lindenberg & Steg, Science, 2008.)
Norms 101 (classic psychology): Making a norm visible and salient boosts compliance—people copy what’s modeled. (Cialdini, Reno & Kallgren, JPSP, 1990/1991.)
Professional ethics lens: In low-stakes settings, “doing the right thing when no one is watching” builds the habits that sustain trust in high-stakes ones. (Alfandre, 2021.)
Local tie-in (my graduate work): My 2019 MBA capstone on pro-health behavior shows that modeled norms + low friction improve voluntary uptake. Cart return is the perfect civic analogue.
What this means for Clallam County
If we want better meetings, budgets, and services, start by modeling the culture that makes those big things possible. That’s why I’m backing CC Watchdog’s #1 mission with a serious (but light-touch) policy idea:
CART — Civic Accountability & Role-Modeling Test (Advisory)
A one-sentence addition to our county’s ethics framework that says: elected officials should model everyday, pro-social conduct—illustratively, returning a grocery cart to its corral—as a visible standard of stewardship and courtesy. No punishments, just expectations and examples.
Call to action
Leaders: Be the first to roll a cart back. It’s 30 seconds that says everything.
Residents: Join the “Cart Crew.” Snap a quick pic (faces optional), tag #ClallamReturnsCarts, and normalize the norm.
Policy folks: Let’s adopt CART as an advisory clause—keep it symbolic, keep it classy, and let it set the tone for the work that actually moves the needle.
Small returns → big returns… in public trust. Let’s start where we are, with what we can all do today.
(I would like to give credit to AI-ChatGPT for assisting me in this dialogue and write-up)
This is great, I love where you've taken this!
The male in the Red Lion to Swain's incident is also a local transient sex offender who is often failure to regester, on the scanner or in jail. He has been living the PA street life for years. Why is there no accountability for him to become responsible for his own life?
He can only be removed...no possibility of rehabbing someone that sick!😱
Don't worry. I think PBH is in the process of building him an equitable place to live. He'll even have a dishwasher.
And a dog washing station
I could tell some stories about an individual who claims to be at the top of their list for the new place
Discretion being the better part of valor and all; a better path to a good night's sleep.
The picture of the smoke from the fire under one of our two 8th Street Parakeet cages is symbolic of what plagues us, inability to right the ship while making us pay through the nose for feel good non solutions.
We have too many whose income streams depend on more and more sick, crazy, and criminal people. They created the problem, manage the problem, and grow the problem deliberately, intentionally.
Great job, Jeff! With so many concerning stories, it's hard to believe our little community can stop and right the spiraling chaos. But we can, and it's thanks to you, your readers and listeners, and those who stand up, speak up, and take action. The most important stance we can take is to question everything and to not take fulgent responses from our leaders at face value. If it's a feel good response, RED ALERT!
Man you nailed it Jeff. Just now eye opener walking past the food bank
Line to get to the farmers market to pay for my pastrie most of the cars were nicer than mine but I really noticed the black Mercedes SL and the almost new Range Rover.
It looked like the line for valet parking to the opera
SL55?
Free burn permits.French has again shown how stupid he believes we are.Nothing is free.Someone has to create a permit system.Someone has to issue the permit, someone has to monitor the system.Soon someone realize this costs money.No problem, we will put small fee on it, I am sure that will never increase.
French lies. Of course a "permit" will mean a "citation" (with a fine), which then will result in an eventual permit fee, and more fines. This is putting us lobsters into the cool salted water, while the stove is turned onto high.
A David Dewalt ( Maurice's incident) has been in Clallam jail twice recently, just released on 8/15.
Last Friday eve (8/15) on my way to exercise class in downtown PA after a full work work, transit security was speaking to a man rolling around on the ground at the transit center covered area. As I walked by keeping an eye on the scene the transit guard asked me how I was doing, I responded . I continued walking quickly and as I went down the stairs by the transit elevator heard male voices yelling behind me. Turned around at bottom of stairs and realized the male had jumped up and ran after me and the security guard was getting ahead of him to keep him from pursuing me. ran into the building and yelled for help as I pulled the door shut and guard had to work to get the male to leave.
Jump forward today searching for crimimal history of the David Dewalt in your story and I find this article, the photo is the same guy who tried to chase me! His hair is much more gray now but I am sure it's him. He has a looong history of crime and in this Redding, CA article police had arrested him 17 times that year. He is scary! I changed jackets, left through other side of the building and detoured by several blocks after class to avoid another encounter. these are the type of folks harm reduction and enabling draw to PA! check out his picture, imagine him with more gray hair, and stay far away from this volatile person. retail workers should not have to deal with him. https://krcrtv.com/archive/police-transient-arrested-17-times-since-last-year
Thank you, Susan, for sharing a very troubling experience. I am glad you are safe physically, but you are probably emotional injured. Take care and be safe.
Love it when Hunting Season opens on your site and we get to pick the target to hunt down. I'll pick OMC, but wait! the "dirty rats" have left the sinking ship and no one thinks to at least claw back their bonuses?! My understanding is that if a hospital has in its payor mix 30% or less from Medicaid patients, it qualifies for continuing its pharmaceutical benefit which OMC has lost - probably forever. So what another levy next year Ann Henninger to plug this budgetary hole??? BTW - Looked at some of the credentials of Mark Gregson and he doesn't appear to be a "closer". Time will tell and the clock is ticking. But wait The "OMC ship" is carrying us county residents as we sink into a sea of indebtedness and levy increases.
If there was a board to post stickers on at the Watchdog booth, where participants could have voted to say where they found the best county-wide news coverage: we already know this dog can hunt!
What a great idea! Get ready for next year.
It appears clallam county has so much tax $$$ to play with the three board commissioners are willing to waste mass $$$ on dead beat drug addicts instead of fixing roadways & alleys that have been neglected for many years,waste $$$ on special interest groups,waste $$$ on tribal issues,ect ect ect then claim county needs more $$$ to operate effectively.
The offending booth workers' hat message may not reflect of the opinions of all of their party's participants, but their lack of disavowing them says something of their probable agreement, sadly!
People wear hats like that because they can't get a rise any other way (except maybe a blue pill? And, yes, that is a reference to The Matrix). For non movie buffs... the blue pill represents choosing blissful ignorance, while the red pill is embracing the painful truth. (Its a documentary.... )
"... one pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small..."
"the (Equivalent) of (About) 30%"...wtf?...can 'Nozias' get any more weasely?
Probably!
Good luck with the burn permits, 'French-fried'! Good luck enforcing 30,000 incident calls of NON-COMPLIANCE! I personally would like more burn science and common sense applied to burning, such as neighborly awareness of smoke-drift and proper clearance zone around burn material, and people not burning asphalt shingles and plastic and other 'garbage', and tarping and drying brush piles before burning, and having pressured-water nearby when burning, and not picking the most beautiful days to burn...but 'whatcha gonna do? Permits can't replace courtesy and common sense...REAL TIRED of these slimy little commie-crats pushing all their 'progressive' NWO crap on us!
So glad you highlighted the Stephen Pinker book! I knew we weren't just 'makin' it up!
These timber 'blockades' in the name of environmentalism is a doomsday movement, 'structurally complex forest', my 'arse'! Another commie-pinko-freak infiltrated into gov't to carry out NWO agendas. 'Structurally complex commies' is more like it!
With the mass of people blindly voting 'party' and no real alternative candidates but 'party' candidates, I don't see any real change. The outlaw gov't is bending and breaking all sorts of laws, with impunity...until they are not.
Good luck CC. Good luck WA...you're going to need a lot of it!😎
My response to burn permit non-compliance, Robert. The Commissioners will create another Compliance Officer position, the same as they have done with OSS compliance, and now levy a $13 charge on compliant OSS owners, so that they can bring the non-compliant into compliance.
Dave Upthegrove's goals are to increase timber harvest through longer cutting cycles. Continuingly shorter cutting cycles beginning in the 1960's and most recently being pushed by hedge funds seeking short term profits, have decreased the amount of wood, and jobs, that Clallam County would otherwise be capable of producing. In addition, these shorter cutting cycles have a large negative effect on late summer stream flows, which the county is attempting to mitigate through fees called for by the Dungeness Water Rule, for which the forest industry pays none. Look a little deeper into the misinformation being spread by the forest industry and you will see how the east end of Clallam County, in particular, will benefit from Dave Upthegrove's policies (if he sticks to his campaign promises).
Why do I not believe you? Oh, I know! Sounds like the same old song and dance and word play from the usual miscreants.
Do you think Ron would misguide us?🤣🤪😂
I don’t know the man, but I think I recognize the M.O.. Nebulous jargon promising something better and having a bogeyman. Oh, and environmental “concerns” for good measure.
Meanwhile, too much wood is burned up.
Sadly, you believe your short term opinion vs scientific facts.
Is there any discussion allowed among "the players" meaning Dave, the forest industry, and the Clallam County taxpayer? Seems very one sided, and the I-5 voters once again, vote on what is best for the whole state!
So sell your asses and 'pony up' to offset the delays which cost tens of millions in revenue...Utopia literally means 'no-where'! That's where we'll be living when these psychos have their way!😱
Large logs bring less money. I’m not quite sure exactly what the maximum optimum diameter is. I believe it’s @ 30”. I was harvesting timber off my property to gain usable acreage . Minimum was 16” diameter and I believe maximum was 30”. The “Timber Cruiser” I was talking to told me that the big stuff had to go to smaller more specialized mills that paid less per board foot. That the most profitable were sized for export. Now this may be b.s. but it’s how it was explained to me. I sold $60k worth of logs. This was in the early 2000’s.
Imagine, there’s math involved, even some calculus. The left only understands emotions, good intentions, and how to screw the pooch.
The large logs only bring less money per board foot because most mills have been redone to handle smaller logs, the product of shorter cutting cycles. The larger logs certainly produce much higher quality lumber that should be intrinsically more valuable.
Mr. Richards, I must apologize for the rude comments, some people just can't help themselves.
A question if you don't mind? Is it not true that these forests in question are GMO and engineered to grow taller, straighter, and faster to enable a shorter harvest schedule??? My own DFL has Native and GMO Douglas Fir and the size difference is impressive!!!
I've gotten used to rude comments over the years. But I've also found that if one keeps plugging away trying to argue facts eventually some people listen, and eventually I even change my mind sometimes. We would all do better without wise ass comments.
The forest industry has certainly been attempting to develop faster growing trees but I think they have made little progress there. Planting trees in much thicker than sustainable stands causes faster early growth as the trees seek to out compete each other, but then most of the trees are wasted in pre-commercial thinning, as is the water that was used to grow those trees. What is notable here is that the harvests Upthegrove has delayed, and which the timber industry is clamoring to get its hands on, are 100 to 120 year old trees - certainly these are not the product of GMO. And it is these trees that grow more, better timber faster.
Anyone from the Forks, here is the link to the upcoming city council meeting agenda (Monday, August 25th, starting at 7:30 pm), which has a Zoom link so you can join virtually if you aren't able to attend in person: https://forkswashington.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/20250825-Agenda.pdf
It's natural humanity at it's finest when things are offered for free with no questions asked! Morals often go out the window. I've seen the lineup of cars for the Sequim food bank and was shocked at the first time I saw it! My daily driver is an 06' with 230k miles on it. Many of the cars in that lineup were 2015's or newer. Now I know that we sometimes fall on hard times and it's nice to get a "handup" but some just keep going for freebies even though they are not in need.
Addressing the special groups issue....well as stated....all people should be treated equally. This special treatment needs to be toned way down and consequences need to come back. Most people understand consequences and will change their behavior habits accordingly. Some don't and those are the ones that need to be targeted with the special programs to help them. The rest will straighten their lives out after finding out that they have to be responsible for themselves.
Fairness and transparency are of the upmost importance in our county leadership whether it be a county seat, OMC leader or board member, or a facility that takes taxpayer's money. The biggest, best, or most liked (want lists) are not what gets the job done.
It's time for a change in Clallam County, time for new common sense leadership!
Yes, but HOW to reach the voters -- the newspaper is junk, yard signs are blight -- so, what will work? (asking for a friend in the current PA election).
Facebook is a cesspool but I still get a lot of exposure there.
Sewage is necessary in a modern society. We all flush toilets. Remember the goal.
Human waste is a terrible thing to mind.
A very good question as I have lost any faith left in humanity no matter what party affiliation!
not sure what works best, but if you want to try the Saturday stand at Lincoln and 1st/Front technique the incumbents use, I am happy to help you hold up a sign. Just please don't ignore no tresspassing no soliciting signs and leave trash on people's door steps while claiming to be the pro enviroment candidate, that's annoying
It's my understanding that you can go to the R party and ask for advice but not have to take an oath, stencil your forehead, or bark at the moon.
Wondering - how many of the vehicles in line at the food “bank” were idling the whole time?
less than the amount idiling in line for HOURS every weekend all summer at the Heart of the Hills entrance station to Hurricane Ridge or in the very long line in the precious Hoh rainforest
Don't get me started... tens of thousands of interactions/exchanges, witnessing stupid people tricks within ONP, via both staff and visitors, exceeding a quarter century. Local issues are at the discretion of ONP "leadership", because the DC and Denver wigs at Regional/National Hindquarters cannot be bothered with the mundane environmental aspects that are the platform on their soapbox and source of NGO grant funding. Biosphere, and UNESCO World Heritage Site are key terms as to who are actually calling the shots. Stand in the road behind traffic at any Entrance Station with a CO monitor, the alarm will sound endlessly, as the EVs peter-out in line.