A possibility but quite the process. Petitioners have 180 days to collect signatures from registered voters in Clallam County.
The number of signatures required is 25% of the total votes cast for the commissioner’s office in the most recent election for that position. A clear and concise synopsis of the charge alleging malfeasance, misfeasance, or violation of the oath of office, with specific facts supporting the claim.
Below is a portion (cut and paste) of Oct 2, 2023 ... In August, Washington State voters recalled three school board members. It can also turn into a lengthy process usually taking a year or more for a decision:
It is clear that voters can recall officials when they make serious allegations of unlawful conduct. It is unclear under what circumstances short of illegality that voters can recall an official. The court explained that “a recall charge can be based on conduct that is not unlawful but does violate the official’s duties.” But then it found the parts of the petition that alleged failure to comply with ethical standards inadequate to go before voters. What will it take to show that an official behaved in a “manifestly unreasonable manner?” The court provided no definitive answer. Ultimately, those filing a recall petition must prepare for the reality that JUDGES may play as important a role in the recall process as voters.
Judges seemingly always play a key role and always bring their cultural biases with them to the bench. And the "opposition" is aware of the process, the time factor, and the cost.
Geoff, this happened to one our knowledgeable members. Was the Judge's decision fair? IMO the saying, 'It's not what you know, but who you know that counts in Clallam County.
That Judge was one appointed by Inslee (along with 250 judges, the most appointed anywhere, ever). He had ZERO judicial experience, and is simply a well-connected kid in our local legal cabal. He is rather fond of doing things like giving someone an unwarranted "lifetime restraining order" (which I have never heard of). He is rather arrogant, and quite full of himself. That particular Judge is not known for fair or thoughtful decisions.
Mimi, what I read pointed in that direction, I did not know the backround of this Judge. Didn't even know if the Judge was male or female. I assume John was pro se (self represented) and didn't really have a chance against the odds. I'm convinced of it now.
Thank you Jennifer… this is another “light my hair on fire” moment. The state is definitely prejudiced defensively against anyone being called out and that would damage their standing along side ICLEI!
That's maybe why having an attorney that knows the judges rulings may have an opportunity to hopefully guide your case for the best outcome. At least in a larger county. Doesn't probably make any sense to take your tax bill, circle the line entry, return a copy with a check for $5 less than your bill. Let the county file a lien. Pay the $5 a few years down the road.
Geoff, in reality who really has the money for an attorney? You will go broke long before the case ends.
Liens do come with interest. The $5 will turn into a lot more than that, plus the court filing fees. I know, sorta been there done that although it involved something completely different.
What the gov't is doing is making the unlawful, 'legal', which allows them to carry out clearly amoral, immoral, unethical and subversive activities with impunity under Color of Law.
Law based on high morals and ethics is based on True Law, Natural Law, The Law of the Land, The Peoples' Law, and is pretty black and white...things are either right...or wrong...the 'created' gray Zone is where they carry out their nefarious activities under protection of Color of Law law.
We will not prevail playing the game by the rules they have set up.
Once in a while the people are thrown a bone to give the impression of due process, like when Ghislaine was prosecuted and imprisoned and is now being slow-released, when her only crime was human trafficking!😱
Notice lots of rumors about prosecuting political criminals but no actual justice being carried out...Diddy set scot free, etc.
It's only lower level operatives that ever get any heat and they are being pampered by the corrupt system.
This is DEEP KIMCHI and is going to take a lot more than protesting and petitioning and 'voting'.
The reason people (hopefully) revolt is because they are being treated in a revulsive way.
The infiltration is complete...according to Klaus Schwab (W.E.F.) who is one of the spear tips of NWO...the evidence bears him out!
Our fight is local but we are up against a global cabal...know your enemy.
Words or Swords? The pen is mightier than the sword cuts both ways, we have been duped and placated by words while the enemy is preparing (s)words against us.
The Sword of Truth is being buried in Lies and too many are still falling for it!
Don't forget the corrupt judges that can 'politically' shut it down!
Tax revolt time! Seriously! Can begin to be implemented immediately with written notices and 'signed intent' forms, like a petition, only not petitioning, but warning the gov't what's going to happen if they don't step down.
We probably don't have enough participants to meet the criteria for 'recall' and not likely a corrupt democrat judge will 'allow' it.
Do we SEE the actual situation we are in?
We are SUBJECTS to a parasitic 'ruling class' operating under under Color of Law.
If we don't change it, we are literally doomed to be all brought into poverty and abject control under communism, overseen by oligarchs...history is rhyming...again!😎
It is too big of a risk to wager your property and freedom against the tax system. I was a tax protestor in the 70's and nearly lost everything, including my family and my freedom. If I were single, with no obligations, other than to myself, I would have gone to prison for my beliefs. I don't think you will find enough people to wager that today. I wish it weren't so, but that's reality. I think we need a diaper brigade next week.
I have found myself standing alone, speaking for, and in the midst of perceived supporters who reamined seated, noncommittal, and anonymous when all was said and done.
I fear groups of people. Have you ever experienced a group turn against you? A lone wolf banished from the pack has a very small chance of survival. Sometimes alone is the only choice.
Yes, I have had a large group turn on me, with a handgun being brandished (not mine); I do not have a fear of groups of people, though they do tend to mirror predators when packed up. I have traveled the world, solo, and prefer not shouldering excess "baggage".
Well then we're well and truly fucked, aren't we?😇
More info on the tax protest please.
Protestations are being supplicant to the parasites.
It takes years for the gov't to seize properties and the idea is not to never pay taxes but to leverage money, which is power to them, in the short term...not paying taxes ever isn't realistic...and then there is the FEAR which we all have about BIG BROTHER, for good cause as BIG BROTHER is satanic and ruthless, that's why people, every so often put their fortunes and their lives on the line for a little breathing room.
Eric Fehrmann LOL I admire your virtue and bravery. You belonged to the Tea Party before it existed. Irwin Shiff died in prison because he followed his belief that federal income taxes were not constitutional. I agree with your assessment martyrs sitting in federal prison will not promote any improvement.
Addendum I paid zero tax for three quarters of the decade Eric Fehrmann just mentioned and only during the last quarter of the decade did I receive serious income. Once taxes were reducing the size of my wallet I understood why productive adults not attached to the government tit complained so much.
Jeff Swegle, I was once a taxaholic. Then I began writing checks to various government agencies and my ideas about government programs changed. I liked the idea when other people paid for the programs.
Elections matter. Through CCWD, Jeff has thankfully peeled back the onion on left-wing commissioners who fail to heed Margaret Thatcher’s famous words regarding socialism. Unless they are replaced expect zero changes on their philosophy or policy positions.
Elections don't really matter do they if we have to vote the same 2 party system where no matters who wins it's business as usual ? 37 trillion in debt while the middle class is shrinking these last decades first time ever .What will bring change is people realizing the fix is in and create new parties with normal people who serve one term not career politicians who have sold their souls .
$37,000,000,000,000 against the future of all Americans. 'They' are borrowing money using US as collateral to destroy our way of life and even our lives.
'We' are borrowing money (against our collective future) just to pay the interest.
The metaphor of a sinking ship is appropriate, only we have no where to abandon to.
This IS willful, intentional destruction of US and the CCKommissars are in full compliance with the destruction while profiting handsomely at our expense.
Does anyone really think we can vote our way out of this with a corrupt, unaccountable voting system in an insane Demon-rat controlled state?
A change in voting regulations would offer a favorable outcome but demographics offer no favorable circumstance. Fiat currency allows our federal government to create more debt. A gold standard was probably better in 1972 but if our federal government creates a bond yield of four percent today the debt can be erased with a years' worth of inflation. I agree with Robert James but I am slightly more optimistic.
I wasn't there, but I sent my letter disagreeing with the $5 "fee". I was present online via zoom. I started watching this debacle at 9:30 before the public was let in. These Commissioners have no interest in representing US.They weren't listening to us. At all. I felt like I was just sitting in on a CCD sales pitch to the Commissioners. The only reason I know they were physically PRESENT is because Randy got his dander up about Jake's comment that Randy should recuse himself.
I don't even know what to say anymore. Sitting in on these meetings feels like we're crashing a party we weren't invited to. These Commissioners are repulsive.
Kate, the more I hear about this meeting from various CCWD members (and I do carefully read them) the more the meeting has become a defining moment. My question (to anybody) Why does it seem like they aren't worried about being reelected?
I saw Randy fire up over the suggestion of his recusal. Why be so bothered by it? I thought it odd and telling. Jake is District 3 and Randy is 2. Stay tuned.
Bockart. Do you own property? Williams do you own property? If you don’t own a parcel, then shut up! You don’t deserve a handout. Exempt folks step aside, you shouldn’t speak at all. Yes you waiting for your free pizza, condoms, needles and methadone. Yes you, living in front of Health and Human Svcs with a needle your arm. Exempt you are if you’re living in an RV on public or private land, living on a boat or shacking up with 3 other families at the 24-hour flop house. Yes you’re exempt in your Behavioral Health condo, your rented apartment. The list goes on and on. Exempt folks, you’ve got it made. You’ve beat the system. Have a party. It’s on us, the property owners of Clallam County. This taxpayer never made six figures when he was employed for 40+ years.
What the hell! This statement is akin to treating already burdened Taxpayers as absolute idiots? What problems, if any, are the they really addressing!? None is the correct answer! Their services are clearly invented to give a group of people white-collar welfare. Why don't the Tribal lands and associated residents need these services? How can the largest employer in the county not need these services the most?
This decision is NOT representative democracy, not ethical, not fair and a mis-allocation of capital!
But, yet, they have never said a discouraging word for the "dewatered sewage solids" added to the City of Port Angeles' "garden glory" that is sold for home gardeners. Nevermind that chemo drugs cannot be taken out, or heavy metals, or that it's a good way to put pathogens into the soil and crops grown.
Eastern Clallam County has the worst air quality, IN THE STATE according to the state clean air people.
I do have an issue with that, as so much of our air pollution comes from 'unconscious' open burning.
There is a science to burning and it's pretty basic...contain the debris...cover it when possible...let it season (dry) so it burns hotter...only burn when conditions are right...dry enough to burn...humid enough to reduce risk...no high pressure system, so the smoke doesn't just 'settle'... and conscious awareness and courtesy of neighbors.
It's basic common sense, but that quality is lacking and we can't legislate morals... although the 'social credit score', which we ALL already have building against us, is going to, eventually, be used to legislate morals (whose morals remains to be seen).
The wildfires are another issue and affect large multi-state, province, regions.
That's another story as fire science people, who can be found on the web, are giving testimony and opinions as to the 'nature' of a lot of these fires, which are either supernatural or D.E.W. caused.
Further, all the fracking has caused MASSIVE amounts of methane and other gases to escape, uncontrolled, from the crust of the Earth AND are causing many earthquakes.
The methane escapement is likely contributing to the intensity of these fires but...even that doesn't account for entire houses being turned to ash...including the metal appliances and porcelain fixtures like sinks and toilets and granite countertops, which is impossible with 'natural' fires, all while leaving nearby trees and plastic garbage cans and other items untouched....physically impossible without D.E.W. The biggest D.E.W. demonstration and demolition was 9-11 but it has been selectively used ever since.
Truth and fiction are no longer distinguishable in many cases...but when you know...you know!
The cabal is intentionally releasing incalculable amounts of CO2 and CO and other elements through the physical destruction of forests and cities...incalculable amounts..and blaming it on us!
Can't stop ranting...too much information...not much to do about it...buckle up...learn to pray well...enjoy whatever freedoms are still available...'prepare to die!' Montoya quote!🤣
Great summation, Jeff! Since we property owners are very, very, very angry at paying for everything, how about this to help equalize the tax burden: Non-property owners should now become those who only get taxed, and everyone gets to vote on the tax increases. IT'S ONLY FAIR. For too, too long this inequity has been standard. Now is the time for something different to balance the scales. All non-property owners, it's your turn to get....... After all, everyone wants clean air and water.
I guess the Commissioners in their "read of the room" might be: We have the power and we can get more of our voters to an election than you. We see you "20 shows" as a vocal minority out there and we are going to nip this movement in the bud before it progresses any further. Matter of fact now is the time to shove the water steward position down your throat or up.... Just my reading of the room. The gauntlet has been thrown down?
I wish it were a gauntlet...it feels like a slap in the face, because they think we won't fight or they're completely dismissive in any regard. They do believe they have total control and the non-responsiveness is certainly the truth of their disdain for the little people. In a t
True Law situation, non-response is enough moral-lawful reason to displace them but they are completely brainwashed in the NWO, so unless we send them to the 're-education camps', which they want to send us to, nothing will change the way they are carrying on.
They know many, if not most, are fast asleep or actively supporting their echo-chamber narrative...I pray the sleeping Giant awakens but not holding my breath.😎
Heart of the matter; voter turnout. If only 34% of the registered voters vote, where are the rest? Doing nothing has no result except to negate any opposition. Do something. If you have not registered to vote, do so. Vote. Let your voice be heard. Your protests are worthless until you mark the ballot.
We all know that voting doesn't matter in a mail-in only state. The people in control will always get the results they want. You want to change something meaningful start with getting rid of mail-in only voting.
Plus the length of time that passes between the event and the next election. Politicians count on everyone "moving on with their lives, taking things in stride, bucking up, $5 is not buying the PDN for a few days, so deal with it, ad nauseum pick your cliche.
That brings up the subject that I always wonder about out loud: why do we put more pressure to deliver something as important as OUR VOTE on a system that is almost BROKE?? The USPS?
I was speaking metaphorically but ideally the ballot box your vote is dropped into is the only ballot box. Probably physically impossible so the answer may be block-chain voting. Not sure. But multiple ballot boxes and mail in voting is ripe for fraud, that's obvious.
Sheldon, One of the members, Lloyd, actually found a voter to sign up yesterday. It was my son who was asking why he hadn’t got his vote in the mail. Lloyd sent this address. Sure enough he wasn’t registered, it only took a less than a minute to get him registered. Thanks again Lloyd!
Voting is corrupt. I still do it but it's rigged. Mail-in/drop-off , illegals registered to vote via illegal drivers licensing and computer tallying. ensures corruption!😱
Same old story it is only five dollars.Now.Soon to be more.Does anyone know of a fee or tax that has not gone up or expanded its reach?Controls will follow.
These commissioners have political aspirations .They know if you want to get to Olympia you have to be vetted by the party .Meaning you will play ball walk the party line to get the big campaign money the party gives out like 100 k to run So they push more taxes ,more bureaucracy drug pacification programs ,welfare ust as Chapman did who is now a senator. .While never bringing up the income inequality in this state with people worth 100 billion ,hundreds of billions through monopolies which are illegal even by state law ? It's mind boggling the hypocrisy claiming to work for the people ? They are working for the 241 million a year given by the Elites in lobbying ,campaign donations to keep their privileged positions so they can afford 500 mill dollars yachts ,45 -50 mill weddings while taxing us 'slowly by slowly taking a way our financial freedom just as you cook a frog raising the temp just 1 % ,just 1%
so he doesn't jump out of the pot like paper cuts as Jeff said.
Ms. Williams $49.53 per hour does not include benefits, which, to be like our teachers and school administrators, would be around 30% more. Nor does it include the employer’s (taxpayers’) share of FICA (Social Security and Medicare) at 7.65% of taxable earnings (i.e. excluding benefits, some only until later) .
Really want to fix America? Do away with or double tax benefits.
Nothing to worry about there, due to the fact that Blackrock is buying many of the water systems. Including one they call Cascadia I'm told. Yes air and water of most importance... At the tribunal did I smell..... sniff, sniff.. $$ ?
The original Americans were willing to fight a war and seek independence over taxation without representation. Then over the next 250 years we were lulled into believing that taxation because our representatives say so was better. None of this stops until the American people in mass stop writing the checks and force our representatives to reevaluate the taxes or go full on authoritarian and try to force them out of us. EN MASSE is the only answer.
The war was about people wanting Freedom from tyranny of King George and the feudal system of Elitism in Europe .That people came to America to escape.We have slowly allowed that system to come back by allowing people to create monopolies which gives them hundreds of billions so they can buy political influence setting themselves as the new kings of America and us as their worker bees serving them.
As long as there is property tax we are still in a feudal system. To the JSKT's credit they have figured out how to get out of that system and become masters of their own property. We must start demanding equality with the tribe.
Several speakers were very concerned that the CCD is not fiscally managed properly. One speaker gave suggestions of how CCD could balance their books, where to cut, etc. Another asked why are you funding an agency in the red and will still be in the red according to CCD financial reports with the $5 per parcel increase? Crickets. Most taxable parcels 39,000+ will never benefit from CCD & those that need soil testing, garden help, advice about their pastures, which are all decreasing, can pay as they go like the rest of us have to do instead of a whole county supporting a $200,000 budget every year for 10 years!!! This is the perfect example of government abuse & how it misuses our tax dollars with little or no actual accountability! A really good example of how much CCD is needed by the public is the amount of donations collected…….$25 THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF DONATIONS COLLECTED……$25. Clear indication of how much the public feels the CCD is as valuable as the CCD & Commissioners think it is. Total of $25 donation all year…….pathetic
According to CCD print out yesterday they spent $3500 on soil testing! BIG WOOP on a $215,000 dollar budget……REALLY? Randy what is not your problem? Because we have plenty!
So the next step is a recall of the 3 Commissioners?!
A possibility but quite the process. Petitioners have 180 days to collect signatures from registered voters in Clallam County.
The number of signatures required is 25% of the total votes cast for the commissioner’s office in the most recent election for that position. A clear and concise synopsis of the charge alleging malfeasance, misfeasance, or violation of the oath of office, with specific facts supporting the claim.
Below is a portion (cut and paste) of Oct 2, 2023 ... In August, Washington State voters recalled three school board members. It can also turn into a lengthy process usually taking a year or more for a decision:
https://statecourtreport.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/washington-voters-used-their-constitutional-recall-power-remove-school
It is clear that voters can recall officials when they make serious allegations of unlawful conduct. It is unclear under what circumstances short of illegality that voters can recall an official. The court explained that “a recall charge can be based on conduct that is not unlawful but does violate the official’s duties.” But then it found the parts of the petition that alleged failure to comply with ethical standards inadequate to go before voters. What will it take to show that an official behaved in a “manifestly unreasonable manner?” The court provided no definitive answer. Ultimately, those filing a recall petition must prepare for the reality that JUDGES may play as important a role in the recall process as voters.
Judges seemingly always play a key role and always bring their cultural biases with them to the bench. And the "opposition" is aware of the process, the time factor, and the cost.
Geoff, this happened to one our knowledgeable members. Was the Judge's decision fair? IMO the saying, 'It's not what you know, but who you know that counts in Clallam County.
https://www.sequimgazette.com/news/court-denies-sequim-mans-recall-petition/
Thanks for this Jennifer.
Good read.
Let’s add “Local Chamber affiliations” to the pot.
Thank you John Worthington.
“Bad faith my ass”.
💥
Now That's the kind of language we need more of in the BOCC halls of injustice!😇
That Judge was one appointed by Inslee (along with 250 judges, the most appointed anywhere, ever). He had ZERO judicial experience, and is simply a well-connected kid in our local legal cabal. He is rather fond of doing things like giving someone an unwarranted "lifetime restraining order" (which I have never heard of). He is rather arrogant, and quite full of himself. That particular Judge is not known for fair or thoughtful decisions.
Mimi, what I read pointed in that direction, I did not know the backround of this Judge. Didn't even know if the Judge was male or female. I assume John was pro se (self represented) and didn't really have a chance against the odds. I'm convinced of it now.
Thank you Jennifer… this is another “light my hair on fire” moment. The state is definitely prejudiced defensively against anyone being called out and that would damage their standing along side ICLEI!
That's maybe why having an attorney that knows the judges rulings may have an opportunity to hopefully guide your case for the best outcome. At least in a larger county. Doesn't probably make any sense to take your tax bill, circle the line entry, return a copy with a check for $5 less than your bill. Let the county file a lien. Pay the $5 a few years down the road.
Geoff, in reality who really has the money for an attorney? You will go broke long before the case ends.
Liens do come with interest. The $5 will turn into a lot more than that, plus the court filing fees. I know, sorta been there done that although it involved something completely different.
NO Justice in the judicial...says it all!
Decades of infiltration and installation of operatives and now the net is closing...do we have enough will to cut through the web...or not?😎
What the gov't is doing is making the unlawful, 'legal', which allows them to carry out clearly amoral, immoral, unethical and subversive activities with impunity under Color of Law.
Law based on high morals and ethics is based on True Law, Natural Law, The Law of the Land, The Peoples' Law, and is pretty black and white...things are either right...or wrong...the 'created' gray Zone is where they carry out their nefarious activities under protection of Color of Law law.
We will not prevail playing the game by the rules they have set up.
Once in a while the people are thrown a bone to give the impression of due process, like when Ghislaine was prosecuted and imprisoned and is now being slow-released, when her only crime was human trafficking!😱
Notice lots of rumors about prosecuting political criminals but no actual justice being carried out...Diddy set scot free, etc.
It's only lower level operatives that ever get any heat and they are being pampered by the corrupt system.
This is DEEP KIMCHI and is going to take a lot more than protesting and petitioning and 'voting'.
The reason people (hopefully) revolt is because they are being treated in a revulsive way.
The longer we wait, the deeper the swamp!
Truth, Justice, Liberty, Accountability, Tough Love!😎
Corrupt, leftist, installed, appointed, communistic, sociopathic judges.
The infiltration is complete...according to Klaus Schwab (W.E.F.) who is one of the spear tips of NWO...the evidence bears him out!
Our fight is local but we are up against a global cabal...know your enemy.
Words or Swords? The pen is mightier than the sword cuts both ways, we have been duped and placated by words while the enemy is preparing (s)words against us.
The Sword of Truth is being buried in Lies and too many are still falling for it!
Bring It!😎
When we petition, we are asking permission from the corrupt system we are 'up against'.
Demands and actions and 'Root Hog or Die', if we have the guts...otherwise we are just slaves, house slaves and field slaves!
Slavery never ended, it just changed clothes!😎
Pro sports teams/leagues call it free agency. Go on the block. Highest bidder takes you home.
Don't forget the corrupt judges that can 'politically' shut it down!
Tax revolt time! Seriously! Can begin to be implemented immediately with written notices and 'signed intent' forms, like a petition, only not petitioning, but warning the gov't what's going to happen if they don't step down.
We probably don't have enough participants to meet the criteria for 'recall' and not likely a corrupt democrat judge will 'allow' it.
Do we SEE the actual situation we are in?
We are SUBJECTS to a parasitic 'ruling class' operating under under Color of Law.
If we don't change it, we are literally doomed to be all brought into poverty and abject control under communism, overseen by oligarchs...history is rhyming...again!😎
It is too big of a risk to wager your property and freedom against the tax system. I was a tax protestor in the 70's and nearly lost everything, including my family and my freedom. If I were single, with no obligations, other than to myself, I would have gone to prison for my beliefs. I don't think you will find enough people to wager that today. I wish it weren't so, but that's reality. I think we need a diaper brigade next week.
Eric, would that be to tar and diaper?
I have found myself standing alone, speaking for, and in the midst of perceived supporters who reamined seated, noncommittal, and anonymous when all was said and done.
I fear groups of people. Have you ever experienced a group turn against you? A lone wolf banished from the pack has a very small chance of survival. Sometimes alone is the only choice.
Yes, I have had a large group turn on me, with a handgun being brandished (not mine); I do not have a fear of groups of people, though they do tend to mirror predators when packed up. I have traveled the world, solo, and prefer not shouldering excess "baggage".
Well then we're well and truly fucked, aren't we?😇
More info on the tax protest please.
Protestations are being supplicant to the parasites.
It takes years for the gov't to seize properties and the idea is not to never pay taxes but to leverage money, which is power to them, in the short term...not paying taxes ever isn't realistic...and then there is the FEAR which we all have about BIG BROTHER, for good cause as BIG BROTHER is satanic and ruthless, that's why people, every so often put their fortunes and their lives on the line for a little breathing room.
Oh well, here comes the apathy!😎
If our federal government reduces our taxes but prints more money creating inflation does the consumer not witness the same result?
Sent to your substack
Eric Fehrmann LOL I admire your virtue and bravery. You belonged to the Tea Party before it existed. Irwin Shiff died in prison because he followed his belief that federal income taxes were not constitutional. I agree with your assessment martyrs sitting in federal prison will not promote any improvement.
Addendum I paid zero tax for three quarters of the decade Eric Fehrmann just mentioned and only during the last quarter of the decade did I receive serious income. Once taxes were reducing the size of my wallet I understood why productive adults not attached to the government tit complained so much.
If we don't...we're DONE!😎
Ha Ha-
Now i know your face now Robert.
Diapers.
Brilliant.
Well spoken yesterday.
Yes, I will work on getting angry.
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Everyone was great! Even the parasites were transparent in their idiocy but still more of us needed to see the emperor has no clothes.
What a lot of balls those ladies had to declare that in 66 years their grant-fund grifting operation had never cost the taxpayers a dime!
Magic money, magic thinking, disastrous outcomes!😇
What were the objective results after 66 years of grant-funding? More cancer research?
Your anger, Robert, was palpable. Good on you.
It is t\he only asap way to send a clear message to the hypocrite taxaholics.
Jeff Swegle, I was once a taxaholic. Then I began writing checks to various government agencies and my ideas about government programs changed. I liked the idea when other people paid for the programs.
Elections matter. Through CCWD, Jeff has thankfully peeled back the onion on left-wing commissioners who fail to heed Margaret Thatcher’s famous words regarding socialism. Unless they are replaced expect zero changes on their philosophy or policy positions.
Elections don't really matter do they if we have to vote the same 2 party system where no matters who wins it's business as usual ? 37 trillion in debt while the middle class is shrinking these last decades first time ever .What will bring change is people realizing the fix is in and create new parties with normal people who serve one term not career politicians who have sold their souls .
$37,000,000,000,000 against the future of all Americans. 'They' are borrowing money using US as collateral to destroy our way of life and even our lives.
'We' are borrowing money (against our collective future) just to pay the interest.
The metaphor of a sinking ship is appropriate, only we have no where to abandon to.
This IS willful, intentional destruction of US and the CCKommissars are in full compliance with the destruction while profiting handsomely at our expense.
Does anyone really think we can vote our way out of this with a corrupt, unaccountable voting system in an insane Demon-rat controlled state?
We'll see...but it's not looking good!
Going down with the ship.🚢
A change in voting regulations would offer a favorable outcome but demographics offer no favorable circumstance. Fiat currency allows our federal government to create more debt. A gold standard was probably better in 1972 but if our federal government creates a bond yield of four percent today the debt can be erased with a years' worth of inflation. I agree with Robert James but I am slightly more optimistic.
The whole situation is mind blowing.
I wasn't there, but I sent my letter disagreeing with the $5 "fee". I was present online via zoom. I started watching this debacle at 9:30 before the public was let in. These Commissioners have no interest in representing US.They weren't listening to us. At all. I felt like I was just sitting in on a CCD sales pitch to the Commissioners. The only reason I know they were physically PRESENT is because Randy got his dander up about Jake's comment that Randy should recuse himself.
I don't even know what to say anymore. Sitting in on these meetings feels like we're crashing a party we weren't invited to. These Commissioners are repulsive.
Kate, the more I hear about this meeting from various CCWD members (and I do carefully read them) the more the meeting has become a defining moment. My question (to anybody) Why does it seem like they aren't worried about being reelected?
Because they're bought and paid for. They know they don't have anything to worry about. Sick, isn't it?
Kate, sickening!
I saw Randy fire up over the suggestion of his recusal. Why be so bothered by it? I thought it odd and telling. Jake is District 3 and Randy is 2. Stay tuned.
Just wait for the arrogance level when they get the private security intimidation protocols in place!😎
Oh shit... you're right
Bockart. Do you own property? Williams do you own property? If you don’t own a parcel, then shut up! You don’t deserve a handout. Exempt folks step aside, you shouldn’t speak at all. Yes you waiting for your free pizza, condoms, needles and methadone. Yes you, living in front of Health and Human Svcs with a needle your arm. Exempt you are if you’re living in an RV on public or private land, living on a boat or shacking up with 3 other families at the 24-hour flop house. Yes you’re exempt in your Behavioral Health condo, your rented apartment. The list goes on and on. Exempt folks, you’ve got it made. You’ve beat the system. Have a party. It’s on us, the property owners of Clallam County. This taxpayer never made six figures when he was employed for 40+ years.
I couldn't agree with you more. Live off the system, own nothing, take handouts? Sit down and shut up.
Then eat the FREE PIZZA!
gov't always rewards its own!😊
Thanks @Jeff Tozzer!
“Do you want clean air and clean water?”
What the hell! This statement is akin to treating already burdened Taxpayers as absolute idiots? What problems, if any, are the they really addressing!? None is the correct answer! Their services are clearly invented to give a group of people white-collar welfare. Why don't the Tribal lands and associated residents need these services? How can the largest employer in the county not need these services the most?
This decision is NOT representative democracy, not ethical, not fair and a mis-allocation of capital!
But, yet, they have never said a discouraging word for the "dewatered sewage solids" added to the City of Port Angeles' "garden glory" that is sold for home gardeners. Nevermind that chemo drugs cannot be taken out, or heavy metals, or that it's a good way to put pathogens into the soil and crops grown.
Eastern Clallam County has the worst air quality, IN THE STATE according to the state clean air people.
I do have an issue with that, as so much of our air pollution comes from 'unconscious' open burning.
There is a science to burning and it's pretty basic...contain the debris...cover it when possible...let it season (dry) so it burns hotter...only burn when conditions are right...dry enough to burn...humid enough to reduce risk...no high pressure system, so the smoke doesn't just 'settle'... and conscious awareness and courtesy of neighbors.
It's basic common sense, but that quality is lacking and we can't legislate morals... although the 'social credit score', which we ALL already have building against us, is going to, eventually, be used to legislate morals (whose morals remains to be seen).
The wildfires are another issue and affect large multi-state, province, regions.
That's another story as fire science people, who can be found on the web, are giving testimony and opinions as to the 'nature' of a lot of these fires, which are either supernatural or D.E.W. caused.
Further, all the fracking has caused MASSIVE amounts of methane and other gases to escape, uncontrolled, from the crust of the Earth AND are causing many earthquakes.
The methane escapement is likely contributing to the intensity of these fires but...even that doesn't account for entire houses being turned to ash...including the metal appliances and porcelain fixtures like sinks and toilets and granite countertops, which is impossible with 'natural' fires, all while leaving nearby trees and plastic garbage cans and other items untouched....physically impossible without D.E.W. The biggest D.E.W. demonstration and demolition was 9-11 but it has been selectively used ever since.
Truth and fiction are no longer distinguishable in many cases...but when you know...you know!
The cabal is intentionally releasing incalculable amounts of CO2 and CO and other elements through the physical destruction of forests and cities...incalculable amounts..and blaming it on us!
Can't stop ranting...too much information...not much to do about it...buckle up...learn to pray well...enjoy whatever freedoms are still available...'prepare to die!' Montoya quote!🤣
Great summation, Jeff! Since we property owners are very, very, very angry at paying for everything, how about this to help equalize the tax burden: Non-property owners should now become those who only get taxed, and everyone gets to vote on the tax increases. IT'S ONLY FAIR. For too, too long this inequity has been standard. Now is the time for something different to balance the scales. All non-property owners, it's your turn to get....... After all, everyone wants clean air and water.
Keep the dream alive, D.😊
Will do, RJ. Loved the fashion statement yesterday.
I guess the Commissioners in their "read of the room" might be: We have the power and we can get more of our voters to an election than you. We see you "20 shows" as a vocal minority out there and we are going to nip this movement in the bud before it progresses any further. Matter of fact now is the time to shove the water steward position down your throat or up.... Just my reading of the room. The gauntlet has been thrown down?
We have "climate migrants" on the voter rolls the election is in the bag.
I wish it were a gauntlet...it feels like a slap in the face, because they think we won't fight or they're completely dismissive in any regard. They do believe they have total control and the non-responsiveness is certainly the truth of their disdain for the little people. In a t
True Law situation, non-response is enough moral-lawful reason to displace them but they are completely brainwashed in the NWO, so unless we send them to the 're-education camps', which they want to send us to, nothing will change the way they are carrying on.
They know many, if not most, are fast asleep or actively supporting their echo-chamber narrative...I pray the sleeping Giant awakens but not holding my breath.😎
Heart of the matter; voter turnout. If only 34% of the registered voters vote, where are the rest? Doing nothing has no result except to negate any opposition. Do something. If you have not registered to vote, do so. Vote. Let your voice be heard. Your protests are worthless until you mark the ballot.
We all know that voting doesn't matter in a mail-in only state. The people in control will always get the results they want. You want to change something meaningful start with getting rid of mail-in only voting.
Plus the length of time that passes between the event and the next election. Politicians count on everyone "moving on with their lives, taking things in stride, bucking up, $5 is not buying the PDN for a few days, so deal with it, ad nauseum pick your cliche.
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When we only have cliche and ridicule, sarcasm, satire and buffoonery left, that says it all!😱
Saw a cartoon yesterday that said something like, “on what planet would the members of the mail carriers union be trusted to deliver the votes?”
Hey now, don't forget the people that pick them up from those ballot boxes!!!
Yep. Orange vests. Private vehicles...no problem!😊
Good one!😊
That brings up the subject that I always wonder about out loud: why do we put more pressure to deliver something as important as OUR VOTE on a system that is almost BROKE?? The USPS?
You deliver your own vote. Directly to the ballot box.
Which ballot box? The one by the library? One by Sunny Farms? The P.A. Court house? The ballot box has legs...
I was speaking metaphorically but ideally the ballot box your vote is dropped into is the only ballot box. Probably physically impossible so the answer may be block-chain voting. Not sure. But multiple ballot boxes and mail in voting is ripe for fraud, that's obvious.
although our county auditors office did install cameras in the "counting" area, so that we can watch.... which I think is a nice touch.
Are there cameras on the boxes in transit to the "counting" area?
probs not, but they will be looking for part-time workers for the event.
Sheldon, One of the members, Lloyd, actually found a voter to sign up yesterday. It was my son who was asking why he hadn’t got his vote in the mail. Lloyd sent this address. Sure enough he wasn’t registered, it only took a less than a minute to get him registered. Thanks again Lloyd!
https://voter.votewa.gov/portal2023/login.aspx
Voting is corrupt. I still do it but it's rigged. Mail-in/drop-off , illegals registered to vote via illegal drivers licensing and computer tallying. ensures corruption!😱
Same old story it is only five dollars.Now.Soon to be more.Does anyone know of a fee or tax that has not gone up or expanded its reach?Controls will follow.
These commissioners have political aspirations .They know if you want to get to Olympia you have to be vetted by the party .Meaning you will play ball walk the party line to get the big campaign money the party gives out like 100 k to run So they push more taxes ,more bureaucracy drug pacification programs ,welfare ust as Chapman did who is now a senator. .While never bringing up the income inequality in this state with people worth 100 billion ,hundreds of billions through monopolies which are illegal even by state law ? It's mind boggling the hypocrisy claiming to work for the people ? They are working for the 241 million a year given by the Elites in lobbying ,campaign donations to keep their privileged positions so they can afford 500 mill dollars yachts ,45 -50 mill weddings while taxing us 'slowly by slowly taking a way our financial freedom just as you cook a frog raising the temp just 1 % ,just 1%
so he doesn't jump out of the pot like paper cuts as Jeff said.
I have paper cuts AND the water is getting hotter...how much 'discomfort' can we stand?
Quite a bit when stupefied and distracted and terrorized by the cabals!😱
A small amount, repeatedly imposed, adds up. Stop the spending.
Well, we are in our household, BECAUSE of gov't fraud, waste and taxation without representation.🥸
Ms. Williams $49.53 per hour does not include benefits, which, to be like our teachers and school administrators, would be around 30% more. Nor does it include the employer’s (taxpayers’) share of FICA (Social Security and Medicare) at 7.65% of taxable earnings (i.e. excluding benefits, some only until later) .
Really want to fix America? Do away with or double tax benefits.
Even better, abolish the Income Tax.
You pay her to jump from the Jimmycomelately science to riparian science.
Nothing to worry about there, due to the fact that Blackrock is buying many of the water systems. Including one they call Cascadia I'm told. Yes air and water of most importance... At the tribunal did I smell..... sniff, sniff.. $$ ?
Cascadia sponsors NODC and SERN...(International Consortium.)
https://olyopen.com/2024/10/12/energy-climate-resilience-summit-october-29-30-2024/
2015 Cascadia was there...but It was the Cascadia consulting.
https://irp.cdn-website.com/6c85e905/files/uploaded/Climate%20and%20Resiliency%20Planning%20on%20the%20NOP%20-%20Regional%20Meetings.pdf
Sure glad it hasn't cost us a dime in 66 years!
What a relief!😱
Don, don't forget if there is a pension.
The original Americans were willing to fight a war and seek independence over taxation without representation. Then over the next 250 years we were lulled into believing that taxation because our representatives say so was better. None of this stops until the American people in mass stop writing the checks and force our representatives to reevaluate the taxes or go full on authoritarian and try to force them out of us. EN MASSE is the only answer.
That's exactly the ONLY hope we have...either way it's going to be painful!😖
The war was about people wanting Freedom from tyranny of King George and the feudal system of Elitism in Europe .That people came to America to escape.We have slowly allowed that system to come back by allowing people to create monopolies which gives them hundreds of billions so they can buy political influence setting themselves as the new kings of America and us as their worker bees serving them.
As long as there is property tax we are still in a feudal system. To the JSKT's credit they have figured out how to get out of that system and become masters of their own property. We must start demanding equality with the tribe.
Several speakers were very concerned that the CCD is not fiscally managed properly. One speaker gave suggestions of how CCD could balance their books, where to cut, etc. Another asked why are you funding an agency in the red and will still be in the red according to CCD financial reports with the $5 per parcel increase? Crickets. Most taxable parcels 39,000+ will never benefit from CCD & those that need soil testing, garden help, advice about their pastures, which are all decreasing, can pay as they go like the rest of us have to do instead of a whole county supporting a $200,000 budget every year for 10 years!!! This is the perfect example of government abuse & how it misuses our tax dollars with little or no actual accountability! A really good example of how much CCD is needed by the public is the amount of donations collected…….$25 THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF DONATIONS COLLECTED……$25. Clear indication of how much the public feels the CCD is as valuable as the CCD & Commissioners think it is. Total of $25 donation all year…….pathetic
According to CCD print out yesterday they spent $3500 on soil testing! BIG WOOP on a $215,000 dollar budget……REALLY? Randy what is not your problem? Because we have plenty!
I did not elect my representatives for their personal opinions but as representatives of the peoples choice.
m b I second that
Wow.
What a shit show.
They had their minds made up already.
Their words were already written, articulated..
Question:
Why did this not get put on the ballot for a vote by the PEOPLE?